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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 2:09:07 PM   
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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 2:10:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		so you breath the shit without let or hinderance? I gotta believe you can get co2 cheaper than o2 by the tank. might go good on oatmeal, dunno.

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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 2:44:30 PM   
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There is no evidence that CO2 is harmful to the environment



....riiiiight.

CO2, water, carbonic acid, erosion of coral reefs as oceans become more acidic, destruction of food security for many around the world. Acid rain.

However, i believe the coal industry did publish some research that suggested that elevated CO2 levels made plants grow faster. And they will, of course, be as impartial as any number of East Anglian scientists.

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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 2:51:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		And since it is a valuable resource, we should sequester that shit for our future, instead of wasting it.

But neo-conservatives thrive on waste and squander this is just more evidence of it, the tip of the iceberg really.

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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 3:56:36 PM   
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Obama to spend Christmas in Hawaii


The first family will spend Christmas in President Obama's home state of Hawaii, the Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports.The Obamas will reportedly arrive in Honolulu on December 23 and stay until January 2.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/70645-obama-to-spend-christmas-in-hawaii



That's great. I had a friend who moved to Hawaii and she says it is beautiful there. I hope they have a good time. Oh and I hope the media gets some good shots of Michelle at the beach, but I am kinda twisted that way. I wonder if they take the dog with them or leave it at home?


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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 4:12:13 PM   
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I don't mind Obama vacationing in Hawaii, I really don't. Whats troubling is his hypocrisy. How can he jet off to Hawaii with the full entourage and then show up at Copenhagen with a straight look on his face? How can he tell ME that I need to sacrifice, that we (quote) ALL need to make sacrifices, and then jet off to Hawaii.

Yeah, I hope he has fun, but why can't he drop all the drama and BS. He doesn't believe in man-caused global warming any more than I do...

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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 4:19:52 PM   
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I don't mind Obama vacationing in Hawaii, I really don't. Whats troubling is his hypocrisy. How can he jet off to Hawaii with the full entourage and then show up at Copenhagen with a straight look on his face? How can he tell ME that I need to sacrifice, that we (quote) ALL need to make sacrifices, and then jet off to Hawaii.

Yeah, I hope he has fun, but why can't he drop all the drama and BS. He doesn't believe in man-caused global warming any more than I do...


Once again, Sanity, you're right. I think you should really put the nail in his coffin and pull out the links to where he said we would have to shut down all air travel, all cars, all heavy industry and move back into a pre-industrial agrarian society within the next two years or the planet is doomed. I mean, he said that, didn't he? That's why he's a hypocrite, right?

And since you can tell what he believes and other things only a mind reader can do, can you look into the mind of Tiger Woods' wife and see if she'd be into some really dirty "revenge" sex on him? Let me know what she believes too.


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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 4:21:41 PM   
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Once again, Sanity, you're right. I think you should really put the nail in his coffin and pull out the links to where he said we would have to shut down all air travel, all cars, all heavy industry and move back into a pre-industrial agrarian society within the next two years or the planet is doomed. I mean, he said that, didn't he? That's why he's a hypocrite, right?





Cap and trade is close enough to your hyperbole.

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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 4:24:19 PM   
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Cap and trade is close enough to your hyperbole.
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Which is why John McCain, a staunch republican supported it before he went veering to the right? Or is this just another case of someone not being a "twue conservative?"


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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 4:25:28 PM   
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Cap and trade is close enough to your hyperbole.
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Which is why John McCain, a staunch republican supported it before he went veering to the right? Or is this just another case of someone not being a "twue conservative?"





He isnt any kind of conservative much less a "true conservative"

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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 4:31:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wait, he's traveling to Hawaii to spend Christmas with his family?  That evil bastard!  I hope he burns in hell for wanting to spend the holidays with his family!  What kind of a mad man is he!?  Fie!  And a pox upon him!

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to start packing so we can go pick my pet up soon and bring him home for Christmas to spend it with us... you know, his family.


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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 4:33:46 PM   
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He isnt any kind of conservative much less a "true conservative"ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy



There are about 12 really good, albeit nasty political jokes that come to mind over that comment, W...but in the interest of both good taste and surprising people, I'm not going to make any of them. 'Sides, it's just too easy.


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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 4:45:47 PM   
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I don't mind Obama vacationing in Hawaii, I really don't. Whats troubling is his hypocrisy. How can he jet off to Hawaii with the full entourage and then show up at Copenhagen with a straight look on his face? How can he tell ME that I need to sacrifice, that we (quote) ALL need to make sacrifices, and then jet off to Hawaii.

He can't, the conference is scheduled before his vacation.

Yeah, I hope he has fun, but why can't he drop all the drama and BS. He doesn't believe in man-caused global warming any more than I do...
Did he tell you that, or are you just assuming it, because you know he is fairly intelligent?


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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 5:52:05 PM   
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Which is why John McCain, a staunch republican ...





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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 7:05:42 PM   
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He can't, the conference is scheduled before his vacation.


Okay, so how can he go to Copenhagen and keep a straight face klnowing the whole time he's there that right after he jets half way around the world from there he's going to fly his entire entourage to Hawaii...



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Did he tell you that, or are you just assuming it, because you know he is fairly intelligent?



I frankly doubt his intelligence - see above. "I'm gonna expect all of you all to have lists of sacrifices you're going to make in the name of saving the planet ready for me to read by the time my entourage and I get back from the Islands."

Not really a sign of genius, that.


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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 7:08:13 PM   
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Well, hold on Firm - he didn't say Conservative, he said Republican...


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Which is why John McCain, a staunch republican ...







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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 7:10:14 PM   
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Which is why John McCain, a staunch republican ...






Go easy on the Kool-Aid.

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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 7:20:19 PM   
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Of course, people could leave celebrity coverage and go to sources that still cover the news. Lots of coverage on NPR, in the Times, BBC...

That would spoil the fun of proclaiming a vast conspiracy, naturally. Facts are annoying that way.



We've been over this, Muse.  As long as the overwhelming majority of Americans are getting their news from those three broadcast networks, it damn well does matter how they are reporting on a very significant story.



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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 7:34:44 PM   
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I don't agree it's an intentional conspiracy.

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RE: Climategate - 12/4/2009 8:17:44 PM   
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For 14 straight days, the three broadcast networks have failed to report on the great and growing ClimateGate scandal on their weekday morning or evening news programs.  How to explain this?

Perhaps it is that ABC, NBC and CBS have not yet heard of the story, despite two weeks of non-stop reporting on and discussion of ClimateGate in a whole host of media outlets...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2009/12/04/bozell-maybe-networks-dont-know-about-climategate-well-send-them-news-bike




Fallout Over "ClimateGate" Data Leak Grows - Taking Liberties ..
Dec 2, 2009 ... Ripples From Flap Over Leaked Global Warming Files Spread To Penn State, Copenhagen, and Washington, DC.
www.cbsnews.com


Democrats: "ClimateGate" Leak A Non-Scandal - Taking Liberties ...Dec 2, 2009 ... White House And Rep. Markey Try To Downplay Leaked Files, Saying Global Warming Is Settled And A "Catastrophic Threat To Our Planet".
www.cbsnews.com


NBC's Williams adopts right-wing "Climategate" smear: "Have the ...Dec 4, 2009 ... From the December 4 edition of NBC's Nightly News with Brian Williams


Stephanopoulos: ClimateGate Complicates Copenhagen for Obama ...Nov 29, 2009 ... ABC's George Stephanopoulos actually brought up the ClimateGate scandal as a topic for discussion during the Roundtable segment on Sunday's ...
newsbusters.org/


'Climategate': Global Warming Battle over Scientists' Hacked E ...Dec 4, 2009 ... Just days before a major global warming conference in Copenhagen, scientists and politicians are instead preoccupied with more than 1000 ...
abcnews


YouTube - CNN on ClimategateNov 25, 2009 ... An online debate over global warming science has broken out after an unknown hacker broke into the e-mail server at a prominent


msnbc tv-msnbc tv: Climategate? Alleged e-mails fuel warming ...msnbc tv-msnbc tv: Climategate? Alleged e-mails fuel warming debate Video on AOL Video - Nov. 25: Martin Savidge of PBS WorldFocus joins the Morning Joe


MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan Slams ClimateGate Fakery: When Will NBC Do ...Dec 4, 2009 ... MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan on Friday aggressively took on the subject of ClimateGate, informing a global warming scientist that the "perceived ...
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