RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry

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tazzygirl -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/24/2009 6:52:49 PM)
LOL servant... just stir up the hornets nest why dontcha!

servantforuse -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/24/2009 6:55:14 PM)
Thanks Tazzy, I hope you and everyone else has a nice Thanksgiving. I'm thinking Brain won't...Mike

tazzygirl -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/24/2009 6:57:12 PM)
awww.. i hope you do too.. somehow, i think Brain will find lots of food to fill his belly, and mind, between now and then, making him a happy fella too!

luckydawg -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/24/2009 11:54:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: SeekingAZ Some of us have actually read portions of the bill. Those that have know there's is no "choice" at all. I suspect you haven't and don't want to as failure of the bill would mean you'd actually have to pay your own way in this world as opposed to someone else being forced through the action of government fines, jail time and eventual violence to do what you should do for yourself. Eventual violence? do expland please. I have read the bill. Im interested in understanding what you read that i missed. Tazzy, eventuall violence is the basis of every law. If you refuse to obey, you will be forced, if you resist, violence will be used against you, if you fight back you will either be subdued or killed, (or a small chance you get away and live in hiding with a fake name). Thats what laws are. All laws....

rulemylife -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 1:14:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg Tazzy, eventuall violence is the basis of every law. If you refuse to obey, you will be forced, if you resist, violence will be used against you, if you fight back you will either be subdued or killed, (or a small chance you get away and live in hiding with a fake name). Thats what laws are. All laws.... Was it Oliver Wendell Holmes who said that or Thurgood Marshall? I forget.

Brain -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 2:07:01 AM)
I demand a public option, the Buffalo Bills will not make the playoffs again, and I'm thinking now Obama is a sellout. Everyone have a nice Thanksgiving. Bill quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Thanks Tazzy, I hope you and everyone else has a nice Thanksgiving. I'm thinking Brain won't...Mike quote: (in reply to tazzygirl)

Moonhead -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 5:34:30 AM)
Fair enough. quote: ORIGINAL: Brain Sure they do, Jerry Lewis raises record amounts of money for muscular dystrophy every year and that's only one example there are many more. quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: Brain I don't know how American people have a reputation for being generous when fellow citizens are treated in such an inhumane despicable way – shameful. Actually I do, most of the rest of the world doesn’t know. Not an attempt at snark, but are you sure Americans have a reputation for generosity? That isn't one I've ever heard before.

servantforuse -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 7:11:11 AM)
This is why the public option probably will not be included in a bill. In 1994 when Newt and the Republicans took back the House, they did so by picking up 56 seats. They only need 41 seats to do the same thing in 2010. The dems are seeing the handwriting on the wall.

luckydawg -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 10:05:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg Tazzy, eventuall violence is the basis of every law. If you refuse to obey, you will be forced, if you resist, violence will be used against you, if you fight back you will either be subdued or killed, (or a small chance you get away and live in hiding with a fake name). Thats what laws are. All laws.... Was it Oliver Wendell Holmes who said that or Thurgood Marshall? I forget. I am pretty sure that I said it, and note that you can't dispute it. Yet again, I make a true post, and a troll comes along snarking. I wonder what you had to edit out?....

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:06:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: SeekingAZ Some of us have actually read portions of the bill. Those that have know there's is no "choice" at all. I suspect you haven't and don't want to as failure of the bill would mean you'd actually have to pay your own way in this world as opposed to someone else being forced through the action of government fines, jail time and eventual violence to do what you should do for yourself. Eventual violence? do expland please. I have read the bill. Im interested in understanding what you read that i missed. Tazzy, eventuall violence is the basis of every law. If you refuse to obey, you will be forced, if you resist, violence will be used against you, if you fight back you will either be subdued or killed, (or a small chance you get away and live in hiding with a fake name). Thats what laws are. All laws.... Right. So by that logic, the government forces me to shovel my sidewalk, wear a seatbelt, and put a smoke detector in my house on pain of death. This is one of the most bizarre arguments I've seen here in months.

housesub4you -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:08:05 AM)
See now you're getting it[:)]

willbeurdaddy -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:15:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: SeekingAZ Some of us have actually read portions of the bill. Those that have know there's is no "choice" at all. I suspect you haven't and don't want to as failure of the bill would mean you'd actually have to pay your own way in this world as opposed to someone else being forced through the action of government fines, jail time and eventual violence to do what you should do for yourself. Eventual violence? do expland please. I have read the bill. Im interested in understanding what you read that i missed. Tazzy, eventuall violence is the basis of every law. If you refuse to obey, you will be forced, if you resist, violence will be used against you, if you fight back you will either be subdued or killed, (or a small chance you get away and live in hiding with a fake name). Thats what laws are. All laws.... Right. So by that logic, the government forces me to shovel my sidewalk, wear a seatbelt, and put a smoke detector in my house on pain of death. This is one of the most bizarre arguments I've seen here in months. mmm no, logic doesnt lead you to that conclusion from his statement. DUCY?

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:16:36 AM)
No. Explain it.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:21:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda No. Explain it. He said that it violence (enforcement) is the ultimate end of every law. He did not say that the particular punishment for every law is death, and there is no logical bridge to that conclusion. and this must be the only political board you frequent. The mantras of "all taxes are theft" and "all laws are violence" are ubiquitous. I dont agree with either statement.

luckydawg -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:24:54 AM)
already did, if you want to play troll games, your on your own. All laws are backed up by the force of the State, which is sanctioned legal violence. That is what laws are. Tell you what, next time a officer tries to give you a seat belt ticket, tell him to fuck off and drive away, and see what happens.....

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:25:41 AM)
quote: eventuall violence is the basis of every law. If you refuse to obey, you will be forced, if you resist, violence will be used against you, if you fight back you will either be subdued or killed, quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda No. Explain it. He said that it violence (enforcement) is the ultimate end of every law. He did not say that the particular punishment for every law is death, and there is no logical bridge to that conclusion. and this must be the only political board you frequent. The mantras of "all taxes are theft" and "all laws are violence" are ubiquitous. I dont agree with either statement. He could hardly have been more clear - quote: eventuall violence is the basis of every law. If you refuse to obey, you will be forced, if you resist, violence will be used against you, if you fight back you will either be subdued or killed... Edit: And he just repeated it in the post above mine.

luckydawg -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:29:13 AM)
I didn't say all laws are violence, I mean all laws are backed with the threat of violence. Which is as it should be, nothing wrong with that. And I don't think all taxes are theft either.

luckydawg -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:33:06 AM)
Panda, so is it the "or" that is confusing you? "Right. So by that logic, the government forces me to shovel my sidewalk, wear a seatbelt, and put a smoke detector in my house on pain of death. This is one of the most bizarre arguments I've seen here in months. " Why is it that so many liberals have to change what I say in order to argue agaisnt me. It's rather sad and quite obvious. You have to do those things (assuming they are part of your local laws) under pain of enforcement, which includes escalating to violence if need be.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:38:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda quote: eventuall violence is the basis of every law. If you refuse to obey, you will be forced, if you resist, violence will be used against you, if you fight back you will either be subdued or killed, quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda No. Explain it. He said that it violence (enforcement) is the ultimate end of every law. He did not say that the particular punishment for every law is death, and there is no logical bridge to that conclusion. and this must be the only political board you frequent. The mantras of "all taxes are theft" and "all laws are violence" are ubiquitous. I dont agree with either statement. He could hardly have been more clear - quote: eventuall violence is the basis of every law. If you refuse to obey, you will be forced, if you resist, violence will be used against you, if you fight back you will either be subdued or killed... Edit: And he just repeated it in the post above mine. And your quote does not support your conclusion. "subdued OR killed" (ie it depends on the law your breaking). Your conclusion extended being killed to crimes that would never carry a death penalty.

luckydawg -> RE: If Corrupt Democrats Kill the Public Option, It’s All Harry (11/25/2009 11:56:23 AM)
You can get killed durring the subduing process, if you resist with enough violence. Leagally with sate sanction. I just find it funny the way the trolls attack me, and anything I say. Even if it is 100% true, they try to twist it to something else. Must have a chrush on me or something.

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