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AquaticSub -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:00:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Am I way off base?  What do you all think?



I think's probably a combination of a lot of things.

A) Subs who are so excited to reflect their "considered" nature

B) Men tend to get less unwanted mail

C) Once the dominant has what they are looking for, they may not give another thought to the profile

D) And probably some are actually trying to play the field.

I'm certain there are others factors coming into this but I don't say that it's thing more than another to the point where we can judge what it is without knowing the individuals in question.




NuevaVida -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:05:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: agirl

Neither of us mentions the other as neither of us care that much about a profile here.




This.  Both our profiles mention we are in a committed relationship.  Neither profile actually mentions the other.  It doesn't matter all that much.  He only logs in about once a month or so anyway.




EbonyWood -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:05:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lally2

in the end its a man thing, and really, to be honest, what woman really knows what goes on in their heads half the time [:)]


It's about 25% football, 25% food and 25% fornicating.
 
The rest we just waste.




onlyme32111 -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:15:51 PM)

I'm not concerned about the OPs issues with other adults and their business. Sure I posted a question to the OP but I was curious why it concerns her so much that she lets herself become irritated by other people's business. I'm not upset, concerned, or moved in the slightest. Just curious, and definitely not irritated. *shrug. It's silly that the OP gets irritated over other people's private affairs. Letting someone else irritate you especially when they have never even spoken a word to you, is allowing them too much power over you. I say, grow up and get over it. [8D] Maybe if she mind's her own business rather than judging what other's are doing with their own lives, she won't be so easily irritated. Just a thought. IF you tend to get irritated over what strangers are doing, stick your nose in other places then.





zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:17:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lally2

what woman really knows what goes on in their heads half the time [:)]


NM couldn't get pic to download [>:]






CaringandReal -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:21:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Hi everybody,
Over the years, I've noticed that a lot of the submissives have "in service to" or "owned by" or whatever in their profiles.  On the other hand, the folks on the other side of the kneel often don't make a point of noting that they are involved with someone - however you define "involved". 

Honestly it irritates me.  I was gonna say something all diplomatic and sweet or something, but I think the bottom line is that it looks like deception.   I think the Domly / M-types who do that are looking for a way to just play the field and they are keeping a sub "for now" until "someone better comes along."   

Am I way off base?  What do you all think?




I'm not sure if you are off base, but I read male dom profiles very carefully and quite often there is some mention of a partner, somewhere in the content, if they have one. Often it's a quite loud and proud mention, in fact. So I'm not quite sure what you are speaking of. Why do you think some of the ones who do not mention partners actually have a partner? Do they tell you this later in emails?





CaringandReal -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:29:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

Well, from one of those squealy, excitable girls mentioned earlier, I know it was a lesson in patience before I was even allowed to post anything that pointed to my partnering being a relationship. He takes things at a much slower pace. He steps carefully, as he has had the landmines that are silly little girl emotions blow up on him before. That being said, even after I was permitted to place such out in the open, he does not list me. It is a matter of protection. My stating that I have a dominant partner is protective to me at least to some degree. Showing me as his partner opens up attempts to hurt him through me, poaching efforts, and more. He also draws the occasional controversy, so I would be more or less in the line of fire when that occurs. I am content with where I am. It took me a long time to really understand and this is a very condensed explanation with a lot of intimate details left out, but he has his reasons and I accept them. I can do this because he has earned my trust every step of the way. Fear of deception dissipates over time.

lovingpet


I think it's better that way. Sounds like he's looking out for you. A lot of relationships are hurt when they are publicized. Poaching can be the least of the problems.




GYPSYMAMBO -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:30:57 PM)

OP:
Once I am sure I put it in..I take a longer time to be sure than some of the subs who have indicated they are under consideration by me..
 

ONCE I have COLLARED and own someone...I put it in..

I ceased putting in UNDER consideration for various reasons.

If I am getting serious with another( I am POLY) they always  know another is in the picture right away...if there is one.

GM




sunshinemiss -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:43:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Sunshinemiss-

Your comment probably holds true for more than a few D types; Um, deception and cheating are not exactly unheard of online. In fact, some men, even in reallife, have been known to keep several girls juggling in the air, unaware of each other. Shocking, but true.

But you may be using too broad a brush. For some it may be nothing more than the difference between the genders; when a man gives a girl an engagement ring, he doesn't immediately call his friends and squeal with excitement over a lunch.
For many women, especially submissive women, their self-identity is very much defined by their man; This is why even in a post-feminist age, many women still change their surname.
Men don't tend to see their woman as so integral a part of their identity; I prominently and often speak of Kim only because she exemplifies so much that is perfect and right with women.

Oh- and we men tend to be a bit clueless about how things like this affect women's feelings.

Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by stupidity.


Hello Mr. Animus Rex,
That makes very good sense.  I appreciate the perspective.
sunshine

quote:

 
His profile says he's *Happy and not looking, experienced, cynical and usually in control*......Mine says * Owned by someone experienced, cynical and usually in control*....

Neither of us mentions the other as neither of us care that much about a profile here.




Agirl - that is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.  You mention him.  Maybe not specifically, but you do say "someone"... According to what you have written, he does not mention you at all.  I just wonder why.  I will say that AR's explanation up above makes very good sense.


quote:

I just think the dominants are more laid back about it for the most part.


Hello Don - a very interesting perspective... Kind of like "cool people" don't get all excited, but we geeks do!

quote:

i don't really know why the OP has brought this up, as a Dom/Master not mentioning their sub/slave on their profile or signature does NOT denote not caring.


Katey,
I believe if you had really noted my post, I specifically said why.  It irritates me and looks deceptive to me.  I didn't hide what I was thinking.  Nor did I hide the implication that perhaps I was overreacting.

quote:

Before I meet NM I was speaking with a dom who wanted me to put him in my profile but refused to put me in his. That made it clear to me that he was still "playing the field".

 
That's what I'm talking about pixie.
 
 
quote:

in many ways thats why we (women) value the statement so highly, for a guy to proudly announce his ownership is going that extra mile that theyre chemical make up really doesnt put as priority on the whole

in the end its a man thing, and really, to be honest, what woman really knows what goes on in their heads half the time [:)]


That's good lally....
quote:

 

Why do you think some of the ones who do not mention partners actually have a partner? Do they tell you this later in emails?



Hi C and R,
Because I've met these guys.  And I have seen them "work their stuff" while knowing the women they are involved with.

quote:

 
ONCE I have COLLARED and own someone...I put it in..


that makes sense GM.


So in the end, I brought this up because something spurred my memory about this, and I got irritated.  I have so often been sweet and diplomatic, I thought I'd try being a little less pale and put my irritation out.  I'm allowed, after all.

Best, and thanks so much for all the input!
sunshine




sunshinemiss -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:44:35 PM)

Oh and I forgot one thing. 

For the Lady Pacts and Animus Rex's, etc. who are so up front.  Please note that this is one of the reasons I respect you.
Best,
sunshine




CaringandReal -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:51:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2

but i also know that many a guy just doesnt think along those lines and it really doesnt occur to them to make that sort of statement, they dont feel its necessary and/or they dont feel such a statement of ownership/attachment needs to be made public, theye often way more private about that sort of stuff.

in many ways thats why we (women) value the statement so highly, for a guy to proudly announce his ownership is going that extra mile that theyre chemical make up really doesnt put as priority on the whole



I'm an extremely private person and have been burned very badly by relationships made public so I'd absolutely love being someone's best-kept secret. :) It wouldn't bother me if other people assumed a dominant I was involved with was single or available or even acted under that belief. For one thing, it would mean it was working, I was still a secret; for another, who am I (wanting a slave relationship) to claim any sort of ownership over him or to expect exclusivity? If he's the master he'll do what he wants, and if he's my master, I'll accept that.


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Sunshine said:

"Hi C and R,
Because I've met these guys. And I have seen them "work their stuff" while knowing the women they are involved with. "

Ah, got it. It's sometimes hard to know what is up with that, but I tend to give such a person the benefit of the doubt, because there are so many relationship variations. Perhaps they have an understanding partner, or the relationship is consciously polygamous in some fashion. But I've not met many people like that up close or in person, I've just been cyber acquaintances.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:52:47 PM)

~FR~
Sunnyone, I am in full agreement with you! I see subs male and female announcing that they belong to XYZ, and the opposite side never adds a thing... and it makes me wonder.

It also makes me wonder when folks that I KNOW are in relationships keep the "I am looking for.." profiles up, and then perve ME.

The interwebs! Where we can be whatever we want to be! [8|]




sblady -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 3:52:49 PM)

Dammit!! I just realized Sir hasn't changed His profile and we've been together for over two years. I must take Him to task for this oversight. [:D]

I recently changed my profile and signature line to indicate that I'm taken, owned, etc. etc. and it has cut down (well, a bit) on the mail I receive. Sir is rarely on CM these days and when he is, I doubt He's checking out his profile (he's too busy checking out pics of hot women). [:)]





EbonyWood -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 4:06:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Oh and I forgot one thing. 

For the Lady Pacts and Animus Rex's, etc. who are so up front.  Please note that this is one of the reasons I respect you.
Best,
sunshine


And I gave her a cookie and got nothing.
 
Go figure.




lovingpet -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 4:09:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Am I way off base?  What do you all think?



I think's probably a combination of a lot of things.

A) Subs who are so excited to reflect their "considered" nature

B) Men tend to get less unwanted mail

C) Once the dominant has what they are looking for, they may not give another thought to the profile
D) And probably some are actually trying to play the field.

I'm certain there are others factors coming into this but I don't say that it's thing more than another to the point where we can judge what it is without knowing the individuals in question.


That's been the case with the two who have come to be serious with me. As a matter of fact, I had to remind my partner to even bother with changing his age on his profile here. Lack of maintenience often represents a well contented man. [:)]

lovingpet




lovingpet -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 4:13:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


It also makes me wonder when folks that I KNOW are in relationships keep the "I am looking for.." profiles up[8|]


In all fairness, I haven't been any better. I haven't changed one word of the main content of my profile since I joined. It all applies still in some aspects and in others it doesn't anymore. I still consider myself quite new and exploring. I am still looking for a partner (just not a dominant one). At the same time, some could say my profile insinuates that I"m playing the field. I don't think my partner, however, has any such concerns.

lovingpet




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 4:18:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovingpet


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


It also makes me wonder when folks that I KNOW are in relationships keep the "I am looking for.." profiles up[8|]


In all fairness, I haven't been any better. I haven't changed one word of the main content of my profile since I joined. It all applies still in some aspects and in others it doesn't anymore. I still consider myself quite new and exploring. I am still looking for a partner (just not a dominant one). At the same time, some could say my profile insinuates that I"m playing the field. I don't think my partner, however, has any such concerns.

lovingpet


I see what you mean, and when both parties don't change anything, I guess it doesn't hit my radar. It's when ONE partner is all gushymushy and the other says NOTHING...




lovingpet -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 4:34:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovingpet


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


It also makes me wonder when folks that I KNOW are in relationships keep the "I am looking for.." profiles up[8|]


In all fairness, I haven't been any better. I haven't changed one word of the main content of my profile since I joined. It all applies still in some aspects and in others it doesn't anymore. I still consider myself quite new and exploring. I am still looking for a partner (just not a dominant one). At the same time, some could say my profile insinuates that I"m playing the field. I don't think my partner, however, has any such concerns.

lovingpet


I see what you mean, and when both parties don't change anything, I guess it doesn't hit my radar. It's when ONE partner is all gushymushy and the other says NOTHING...



If I had put up what I wanted, when I wanted, it would have been just such a senario. He still makes little to no "public" (ie: online) indication that he is involved. I would have been all squishy and stuff from day one. People that know that we are a couple would see what you see. I make mention of him all the time in posts and at least the little blurb on my profile, but there is no such indications from him. I had one person comment that it looked weird and that surely he must be a player, but it became clear that had more to do with the person's conquest of me than anything untoward in his behavior or character.

lovingpet




sunshinemiss -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 6:39:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Oh and I forgot one thing. 

For the Lady Pacts and Animus Rex's, etc. who are so up front.  Please note that this is one of the reasons I respect you.
Best,
sunshine


And I gave her a cookie and got nothing.
 
Go figure.


quote:

sunshinemiss - But I HAVE been a good girl...

Me - then come and get a cookie..

sunshinemiss - Oooh, Daddy that's a BIG cookie..


I'm so sorry EW - I didn't see your sig line until after you posted the above. 

oooo a COOKIE!  YAY!!!

Fank you! nom nom nom...




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Announcing relationships (11/27/2009 7:21:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Hi everybody,
Over the years, I've noticed that a lot of the submissives have "in service to" or "owned by" or whatever in their profiles.  On the other hand, the folks on the other side of the kneel often don't make a point of noting that they are involved with someone - however you define "involved". 

Honestly it irritates me.  I was gonna say something all diplomatic and sweet or something, but I think the bottom line is that it looks like deception.   I think the Domly / M-types who do that are looking for a way to just play the field and they are keeping a sub "for now" until "someone better comes along."   

Am I way off base?  What do you all think?



I think that I don't always announce every relationship I'm in. The people I'm involved with know who they are, and when I am considering a new relationship, the individual in question is -always- told, up front, that I am poly and that there either -are- or -may be- other people in my life. I don't -expect- someone in a relationship with me to note it on hir profile, but if xhe chooses to do so, that does not compel me to do the same. I don't play the "until something/someone better comes along" game, and if someone is going to treat me as if I am guilty of something before we're even involved, it's a sure bet that they're not going to be a good fit for our household, since giving one another the benefit of the doubt and the opportunity to ask and respond where there are questions or issues without jumping to conclusions and pre-judging intent, etc., are paramount to our success.

Calla




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