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Lucienne -> RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate (12/1/2009 12:52:44 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
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So... I take it you haven't heard of Wayne Dumond?
Wanted to make sure your question was taken in the proper context; otherwise you just don't get the right perspective about the question and the question's source. What good is an answer without it?
Well, actually, your answer to the question stands alone. It really doesn't matter who asked the question. And it's pretty funny that you felt that "context" demanded that you repeat all your lame attempts at trash talk but left out, you know, all the points I made about how this is not really news about Huckabee and wondering why this time is different, such that he is, in your opinion, toast as a presidential candidate.
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Yes - I have heard of Wayne Dumond. It's been part of just about every news story coming out about about Huckabee and Clemmons; showing a pattern of pardoning criminals. Since pointing it out would serve only to give another example of the stupidity already better illustrated by Clemmons I saw no need to reference it.
Ok. Had you heard of Dumond prior to 2008? The story was widely reported in December of 2007, and locally reported much earlier.
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I said Huckabee is done. Was another example necessary?
It's not that another example is necessary. What is necessary is to account for why this latest example is going to be the one that kills Huckabee's chances when the previous example, known before the 2008 primaries, had no such effect.
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His history of pardons, Dumond and Clemmons being only the most 'criminal' examples in my opinion; disqualified him from consideration before now. Apparently he carries pardons in his pocket to give out as favors.
I thought the point was a broader "Huckabee is done," as in - most voters will reject him for this - not "I, Merc, consider Huckabee disqualified."
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Giving the same attitude that has been given; have you ever heard of Keith Richards? He too got a Hucabee pardon; so did a lot of people. The Associated Press in 2007 calculated that Huckabee granted a clemency once every four days while in office, a rate greater than his peers.
Attitude, eh? How about stringing together a point? Do you think the American people are going to reject Huckabee based on the Keith Richards pardon? Do you consider pardoning Richards the equivalent of setting Dumond loose?
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It caught up with him. Two cases in the extreme, I'm fairly confident (feel free to do your own research after you've shopped for my shirt) that among the others pardoned you can find more crimes committed.
The man's been out of office since before the last primary. Is there some reason we'd start checking just now on how many crimes have been committed by those he's pardoned? (and grab a sock out of the laundry and get over your tshirt fantasy)
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I thought my original post was clear. Huckabee should have never been considered as a Presidential candidate - he was, he won't ever be again.
I agree that he never should have been considered a presidential candidate. I'm just skeptical that he never will be again. Given time, I don't see why his "values" voters won't be able to gloss over the death of four cops just like they glossed over the brutal rape and murder of two women when they voted for him in 08. Seriously, standing on the outside of the republican party, it's kind of difficult to imagine the hypocrisy the 28 percenters won't forgive in one of "their" guys.
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