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Is there is something wrong with me for having misanthr... - 12/1/2009 2:13:27 PM   
MasterK13


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For those of you who dont know misanthropy is when a human has severe distrust or hatred towards all of humanity I developed these beliefs at a very young age this was probably because I was betrayed by many if not all my friends and my dad was not much of a dad and out of my life. As I got older I began to see how through out all of humanity's history its been nothing but war and violence no matter what sex leads the culture and when I think about the laws of our many differnt cultures I realize that in many ways humanity has devolved instead of actually evolving.

There is nothing but racism, greed, drugs, alchohol, porn (no offense to porn lovers but its just like alchohol and drugs for some people so it goes on the list), sexual discrimination, coruption, and religous fanatics. I wont bor you with the many other flaws in our society so lets skip all the rest shall we. Here is a example of something I often see if a man is a cold blooded monster and he kills and rapes many people he will get life or the death penalty but if a woman commits a crime like that she will often get a lesser sentencing a real life example is a post I read on face book a woman stated that when her child was malested by a woman all she got was community service and 6 months in jail and when she diddnt register herself they just gave her a 100 DOLLAR FINE!!! Anyone else dissgusted by that? NOTE: I AM NOT TARGETING WOMEN I AM JUST SAYING THAT PUNISHMENT FOR CRIMES SHOULD BE EQUAL REGARDLESS OF THE GENDER ON THAT NOTE I ALSO AM DISSGUTISTED THAT A PERSONS RACE, GENDER, RELIGION, APPEARANCE, WEALTH, ETC... ALSO FACTORS INTO THE SENTENCING AND DONT SAY IT DOESNT!!! STATISTICS SHOW THAT IF YOU ARE WEALTHY THEN YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO GET A LESSER SENTENCING AS WELL.

Now I know I am probably coming off as a bit psychotic I know its strange to harbor negative feelings toward your own society and species but before we humans became soooooooo "civilized" back before you used the ever reliable legal system if some one hurt, threatend or killed you, your lover, family and or friends you could stand up for them and protect them but now in todays world thats not right to raise a fist to some low life unless they threaten your life. I saw on a episode of dateline or maybe it was 48 hours a african american's son came to him for help because he was being chased and attacked by white kids from his school and his dad shot one of them with his rifle and he was branded a cold blooded murderer I ask you where is the justice in that and lets not forget about Lawrence King a 14 year old boy who was murdered because he was gay. I also saw on Unsolved Mysteries that when a murdered black man was last seen with some police officers before he was found beaten to death and that no one but his family bothered to investigate or question the police (this happend 10 or 20 years ago). Now here is another of my reason for being a misanthrope a mother chatted online with a girl from her kids high school and used what she found out from this girl to destroy her life this girl she talked to killed her self as a result and the woman was not charged with murder because you have to be in the same room for it to be considered murder which I find disgusting.

I HOPE NONE OF YOU READERS WILL JUDGE ME FOR MY BELIEFS I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF MY VIEWS ARE FLAWED AND OR UNFOUNDED I AM NOT TARGETING ANYONE OR TRYING TO STIR UP TROUBLE AND APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE THAT IS OFFENDED BY THIS ALSO I KNOW THAT I AM ALSO PART OF MANKIND AND I ADMIT THAT I AM DEEPLY FLAWED MYSELF.


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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 2:18:13 PM   
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they are flawed at least in that you also are a part of mankind.

heaven and earth are not judgemental, nor are they nurturing, they dont give a fuck about you.

...in presence of the majestic quality of the law which prohibits the wealthy as well as the poor from sleeping under the bridges, from begging in the streets, and from stealing bread.

Its a fucked up world, you are already in it, chill the fuck out, dude. I ain't real happy with you neither.

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 2:19:45 PM   
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I trust people to be exactly who they are. Deeply flawed human beings.

Some of these deeply flawed human beings manage to be amazingly wonderful, generous, selfless.........you get the idea......people.

I have two beliefs that apply to this subject.

You will see in people what you are looking for.

At some point, as an adult, you have to take responsibility for the energy you are putting out there, if it is negative, that is what you will get back.


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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 2:41:44 PM   
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The world isn't a particularly pretty place in a lot of different ways, but regardless of its shortcomings, you're here, and short of taking your own life, you're probably going to be here a while. In my experience, anger isn't something that's great to cary around long term. Turn off the TV for  a little while, go out side and find things that are good, because there are things and people that are bound to make you smile. You have to remember that there is a balance; with out bad there is no good, with out drugs there are no addicts that live to bloom and grow in recovery, with out rape there are no victims to rise up and come out stronger on the other side. If you focus on the bad half of everything, the world will be awful and you'll be angry and unhappy all the time.  And if you're angry and unhappy all the time, then the chances of you doing the world any good are pretty slim, infact, you may just have the opposite effect.





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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 2:51:25 PM   
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OP, start making lists of things you DO have for a change. 

I don't judge you or have any other negative feelings toward you.  But I do know, there are a LOT of other people out in the world a LOT worse off than you are.

edited to add:  I am basing my comments mostly on your first paragraph.  I agree that it's a sucky world we live in, but it is what it is. 

One place to start is to realize that, for one, your father not being in your life much may have been a blessing.  And then take it from there. 

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 3:02:09 PM   
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I personally think it's all how you can handle things. Not everyone has a perfect life, nor know perfect people. I have been hurt and bertayed by friends and people who were close to me, I don't know my Dad, he took off when my Mom was pregnant. Life can suck, the world can suck but it's not ALL bad.

Everyone has been hurt at some point, everyone has been through shit in their lives. Forget the past, don't let things you cannot change bother you. As someone already said, go out and look for the beautiful things in life, they're out there. Living a life full of hate and mistrust will only keep bringing you down.

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 4:12:48 PM   
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"Happiness" is a choice.

Insert any emotion in between "-" and it pretty much still works...anger, hatred, resentment...

Lots of people have horrible childhoods.

Lots of people are hypocrits (sp?).

Lots are just asses...or worse.

When you get old enough, you realize its no use wasting energy on hating. Its just not worth it.


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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 4:14:41 PM   
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Seek therapy...seriously

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 4:34:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

At some point, as an adult, you have to take responsibility for the energy you are putting out there, if it is negative, that is what you will get back.



Agreed. I don't want to spend time with people who are always putting out hate and anger.

When people put out those emotions, they can find that others avoid them because of it. I have broken up with boyfriends because I couldn't handle how much negativity they brought into my life. This, of course, made them more angry. It's a dark cycle that only they can break though.

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 4:37:48 PM   
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Dude- you're 18. Your post is seething with adolescent disillusionment, anger, etc.

Grow up.

As others have said: you reap what you sow. Sow anger and negativity, and you will reap it.

If you want to be a man, instead of a whiny adolescent: plant seeds of love, hope, peace, joy, etc. and cultivate them, instead of dwelling on what is wrong with your life, and the world.

What have you done to make the world a better place, lately?

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 4:44:13 PM   
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Yeah, human beings are responsible for a load of shit in this world but what about the good things? Art, music, technology, comedy, poetry, there is so much beauty and creativity in the world. Try focusing on that. Go to an art museum or a concert and just bask in the glory. Have you ever seen a live symphony orchestra? Its incredible even if you don't like classical  music. The sheer acoustic energy and  the concentrated will of people working together to make a beautiful noise without the aid of amplification never fails to makes me love humans. 

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 4:53:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

Dude- you're 18. Your post is seething with adolescent disillusionment, anger, etc.

Grow up.

So you accept that youths his age should be expected to have a variable amount of teen angst but then demand that he transcend it?

OP,

If there is one thing you can count on in humanity (yourself included) it's a narrow scope of effective stimuli when it comes to perception and it byproducts. All it takes is a greater percentage of positive things in your life than negative to change an entire worldview. Find the ones you can control and effect them, and then be realistic about the rest.


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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 5:06:04 PM   
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Read Schopenhauer. Do misanthropy with style.

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 5:12:12 PM   
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There's a lot of crap in this world.  There is also a lot of beauty.  I wish for you to encounter the beauty and to appreciate it when you do.

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 6:07:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

Dude- you're 18. Your post is seething with adolescent disillusionment, anger, etc.

Grow up.


So you accept that youths his age should be expected to have a variable amount of teen angst but then demand that he transcend it?




I thought I was very clear that he's 18, and should grow up IMHO.

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 11:49:41 PM   
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Sounds like yer regular 18 year old, to be perfectly honest.

OP, the last thing you're gonna do is listen to the people above me who are saying "grow up", that's a given. Instead, hear me - your outlook on life will change, trust me. For now though, life is what you make of it. Life is pretty shitty for you right now, and that taints your world view. But trust me, inbetween the thorns are roses.

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/1/2009 11:51:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming


I thought I was very clear that he's 18, and should grow up IMHO.


NZ, forgive me if I'm stepping on your toes but...

If you expect him to have angst because of his age, how is he going to magically transcend that beyond the further passage of time?

-Aqua

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/2/2009 12:01:42 AM   
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The best thing we can do to improve our world is to improve ourselves. Stop looking out and start looking in and you'll suddenly find that the world isn't as bad as you think. That said, the world sucks and people suck, so the point is to never give them or it control of your outlook, self worth, and attitude.

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/2/2009 12:41:31 AM   
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The best thing we can do to improve our world is to improve ourselves. Stop looking out and start looking in and you'll suddenly find that the world isn't as bad as you think. That said, the world sucks and people suck, so the point is to never give them or it control of your outlook, self worth, and attitude.


Sound post, Man.

OP..

At times the world can seem like a pretty shitty place, and that can tempt a person to despair. But maybe this is a test? Maybe you've two choices - you can give in and despise the world (and yourself) or you can step up to the challenge. There are plenty of examples of people's humanity and strength, you just have to find them an celebrate them.

In the meantime, try this -

"God [or whatever], grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
the courage to change the things I can;
and the wisdom to know the difference.

At the age of 18, I didn't have enough of the wisdom, so I listened to the Smiths instead - seemed to work.


On another point, and with the greatest respect - there's a lot of anger in your op, are you sure you think it's appropriate to be looking for a sub at this point in time?

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RE: Is there is something wrong with me for having misa... - 12/2/2009 1:31:35 AM   
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yeah that's it... you can always take up religion and then you can just simply blame God for all the shit... He does it on purpose you know... He has a wicked sense of humor... you've GOT to laugh and love it... that is the challenge, that is what makes being here worth while... swim man, swim

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