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just a thought....... - 3/14/2006 5:55:40 PM   
karleigh1957


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RE: just a thought....... - 3/14/2006 6:04:55 PM   
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RE: just a thought....... - 3/14/2006 6:18:22 PM   
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Sometimes we're gifted, sometimes we're talented, sometimes we were lucky to have excellent teachers at an early age.

But yes, what we have to learn and how to operate effectively in a relationship has nothing to do with what orientation a person happens to have.

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RE: just a thought....... - 3/14/2006 6:20:13 PM   
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RE: just a thought....... - 3/14/2006 6:30:01 PM   
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RE: just a thought....... - 3/14/2006 7:32:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cillydom

I meant that in a good d/s relationship this learning can be so much deeper as more is shared

Depends on the relationship. I think my sister and her husband in a vanilla relationship have shared a lot more in their 8 years of marriage and 2 children than a lot of Ds relationships out there in the world.

I don't think M/s relationships have shared more than I do with my partners.

Ds is not inherently deeper than any other relationship.

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RE: just a thought....... - 3/14/2006 10:00:34 PM   
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RE: just a thought....... - 3/14/2006 10:51:21 PM   
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RE: just a thought....... - 3/14/2006 11:51:34 PM   
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Ds is not inherently deeper than any other relationship.


Perhaps for some. This is not a universal truth for all.

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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 4:54:33 AM   
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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 4:57:57 AM   
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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 5:06:35 AM   
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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 8:51:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
Perhaps for some. This is not a universal truth for all.

Ds as a relationship is no deeper than any other type of relationship.

What makes it deeper is the person. For my sister, her vanilla relationship is far deeper than any Ms relationship you could show her.

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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 8:56:28 AM   
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Ds as a relationship is no deeper than any other type of relationship.

What makes it deeper is the person. For my sister, her vanilla relationship is far deeper than any Ms relationship you could show her.


You speak in absolutes. i'm not speaking about your sister, nor about anyone in particular, nor am in some sort of competition about it. i am simply saying it is not an absolute truth, as you continue to state it is. If you wish to believe it is, we will simply disagree on it.

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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 9:00:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
You speak in absolutes. i'm not speaking about your sister, nor about anyone in particular, nor am in some sort of competition about it. i am simply saying it is not an absolute truth, as you continue to state it is. If you wish to believe it is, we will simply disagree on it.

It is a truth in that "heterosexual relationships are not deeper than homosexual relationships"

"Ds relationships are not deeper than vanilla relationship"

You're right, it's not a competition- there is no "winner" or "deeper" or "better."

FOr an individual person, one type is better FOR THEM. That doesn't mean the relationship type itself is better or deeper universally.

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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 9:03:45 AM   
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FOr an individual person, one type is better FOR THEM. That doesn't mean the relationship type itself is better or deeper universally.


Then you agree with what i have been saying. While it is not a universal truth that D/s is deeper, it is also not a universal truth that D/s is NOT deeper. Correct?

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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 9:23:52 AM   
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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 10:18:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cillydom

You can have a marriage of many years without having any understanding of each other, that wouldn’t be possible with in a d/s relationship.

Sure it is.

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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 10:20:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
Then you agree with what i have been saying. While it is not a universal truth that D/s is deeper, it is also not a universal truth that D/s is NOT deeper. Correct?

Your multiple negatives confuse me. However I have not changed my feelings on this. One type of relationship is no deeper than another type of relationship.

A particular person might feel deeper within a particular type of relationship. BUt that has nothing to do with the relationship- but with the person.

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RE: just a thought....... - 3/15/2006 10:51:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
A particular person might feel deeper within a particular type of relationship. BUt that has nothing to do with the relationship- but with the person.


Ladys,

Let me help you over the language barrier. You ARE saying the same thing, just from opposite viewpoints.

ie. That it is a personal, not a generic thing. Some will find D/s to be more intense for them, others will not.

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