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MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: Mommy Dommes (3/1/2007 8:03:32 PM)

I am indebted to my friend Mistress J for this explanation
The two general prototypes of dominatrices are the "bitch goddess" and the "mummy figure". See
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/05/06/1051987689668.html  You can find J's books on Amazon I think or write to her direct - she is a lovely lady.

J is a bitch goddess - her scenes are highly sexually charged (she teases and torments) and she is probably not going to feel dominant playing a "Mommy"..... unless the sub has erotic oedipal fantasies to be played out. 

Her mentor Mistress Margaret is a rounded, older, matronly women and her style of domination includes enemas and other expert medical, corporal punishment, extreme humilation etc   Submissives probably do not thnk she is sexy, but they sure as hell feel dominated!  She is a strict female authority figure in the male sub's life....like a mother (should be).  I don't find her nurturing by nature as a person.

Adult babies are not all needy.  Ever tried to control a "baby" in his playpen drinking whiskey out of a baby bottle, smoking a cigar instead of a dummy and yelling "come on Mummy, show us your tits!!!"  Adult babies can be very, very naughty.....

Each to their own.  Its all good fun :)




MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: Mommy Dommes (3/1/2007 8:09:18 PM)

Sorry that link is not working here for some reason....here;s the newspaper article in full from The Age:
Lessons from a 'bitch' goddess May 7 2003
By Lily Bragge

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Mistress J, the dominatrix with a PhD. Rubbing her hands with glee, Mistress J can't quite believe her luck. Not only does she get to indulge in what was once her secret amateur passion - dressing up and playing sex games - she gets paid handsomely ($250 an hour) for the privilege.

Five years ago, former academic and PhD Jody Hanson quit her job as a New Zealand university lecturer to become a professional dominatrix, a queen of the sex industry. Mistress J, as she is now known, apprenticed herself to an Auckland-based dominatrix, Mistress Margaret, and learnt the basics before setting up shop, er, dungeon.

Having cast aside caution, superannuation and secure employment, Mistress J says she fast-tracked her apprenticeship by becoming highly skilled in nine months. For the past two-and-a-half years, Mistress J has lived in Melbourne, dividing her time between writing and working as a dominatrix from her dungeon in Fitzroy.

The two general prototypes of dominatrices are the "bitch goddess" and the "mummy figure". Mistress J practises as the former. She prefers to think of herself and her colleagues as empresses rather than queens - they rule their little empires mostly as benevolent dictators - where all of them are feted by their adoring male subjects. Trust is an integral part of what goes on in the dungeon. The client relinquishes all power and responsibility to Mistress J, who approaches every job with a sense of theatre: "It's all acting and I absolutely love it." Clients each have their own "script", and Mistress J is the supporting actress. Once negotiations are over, she orders the client to undress and kneel naked on the floor, assuming a position of submission. She leaves the room and re-enters in character.

In an industry where there are definite use-by dates for women over 40, Mistress J says that, generally, the older you are as a dominatrix, the better. Having just turned 50, she believes that no woman should remotely entertain the idea of becoming a dominatrix before the age of 35. "You can't take a gorgeous young Barbie girl and have her be a convincing dominatrix. She just doesn't have the necessary authority," she says.

Mistress J plans to follow in the thigh-high boots of an elite group of septuagenarian dominatrices who are still successfully wielding their business whips in Los Angeles.

She says being a dominatrix is like being a restaurant: "People come and order various dishes, and I give them what they want." Of course, there is also the quality of the establishment. She doesn't consider herself a low-rent, fast-food outlet, she's top of the range - her restaurant is exclusive. Likening a street prostitute to the equivalent of a greasy spoon cafe, Mistress J sees herself at the other end of the scale - the veritable sexual Circa of Melbourne. "Sex is cheap, but domination isn't," she says.

In domination there is no penetrative sex. Mistress J is adamant that the whole process is purely mental. Nor is there much in the way of skin contact. There are, however, other delicacies on offer. "People who want to be caned want to be caned by me because they can't get their wife to do it to them," she says. Privacy and discretion are paramount to any good dominatrix, and her clients are assured of both.

In the time Mistress J has been practising as a dominatrix, she has "crossed over" and pursued some kind of sexual relationship with four clients. A man she calls "Mark" has helped her write a book (yet to be released) based on role reversal, where the two of them alternate between being sexually submissive and dominant. "Mark" was single when they met two years ago, but has since married. His encounters with Mistress J are a complete secret from his wife, friends and family.

With the release of her other book, Private Theatre - Mistress J: Personal observations and revelations of a dominatrix, she hopes to open public debate about the sex industry and its practices. The tone of her book belies her vivacious personality. Private Theatre is written in true, dry academic style. It's clinical and a tad school-marmish. Despite the shocking revelations of her client's individual fetishes, it is not at all salacious or titillating.

It seems bondage and discipline, sadism and masochism are a white man's sport. Her clients are predominantly wealthy, powerful, middle-class professionals. In Auckland, Mistress J serviced a disproportionate number of pilots, and in Melbourne it's solicitors who like frocking up in a French maid's outfit and copping a right good caning. Women are rarely clients.

Mistress J believes powerful men are so stressed in their daily lives that it is a relief (both sexual and mental) for them to relinquish all power and responsibility in the confines of the dungeon. She says that most of her client's fetishes are derived from specific childhood experiences.

Many dominatrices have personal slaves. Mistress J doesn't mind slaves in small doses but is loathe to have one full-time. "When I was in Auckland, I had a food slave who cooked for me a few times a week. To have one full-time though, they'd be worse than a four-year-old; totally demanding, they'd drive me nuts. The slaves that I do have are also personal friends. "There was one slave who begged me to take full responsibility for him. He phoned me up and said, 'Oh Mistress, Mistress, please let me be your slave and I'll do whatever you want, let me worship at your feet and here's my P.I.N number and just give me an allowance . . .', that kind of thing. I just went, no thanks. That's too much responsibility and far too much work."

Mistress J and Mistress Margaret have opened The Domina Reform School (for good girls who'd rather be bad). The school's primary focus is their motto, "Control the cock, control the man". Dedicated to the pursuit of decadence and hedonism, the two dominatrices conduct seminars with class sizes of no more than 10 women and three or four male practice tools. The female students pay a mere $100 to learn the basics (in a three-hour introductory course), while the male participants are charged $300 for the privilege of being blindfolded and beaten.

She says the essence of her profession is the fact that there will always be willing clients who just want to be tied up and tortured for a while. "Sensuality, teasing, pain, pleasure, sexuality and intensity are the key concepts in the dungeon - that and trust. Trust is absolutely essential."

- Private Theatre - Mistress J: Personal observations and revelations of a dominatrix, is published by Domina Books and available at most book stores for $19.95.




sothernnyte -> RE: Mommy Dommes (3/2/2007 11:46:34 AM)

i agree with brightspot. it doesn't necessarily have to be infantilism for One to be considered a "Mommy Domme."
my Domme, who i call "Mama", is what i would consider a Mommy Domme. ageply is a frequent event in our home. however, it doesn't go so far as to changing diapers, etc. It is more the mothering, the nurturing of Her sub that i consider the Mommy in Her.
Love You Mama
sincerely
sothernnyte




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Mommy Dommes (3/2/2007 1:04:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster
In my experience the mommies tend to be subs. But I'm sure there's more to the world than what I've experienced.
Than the time has come for me to help expand your experience. [;)]
I have zero interest in infantilism type of play/domination/relationship; but I definitely am  a mix of mommy and Goddess in my style.   I tend to expect hard work from my boy, but am also instinctively very caring/nurturing and protective...  I need someone who enjoys being treated with kindness and care as well as harshness/discipline when he strays from good behavior or because I feel like it.   M




BeachMystress -> RE: Mommy Dommes (3/2/2007 7:59:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ethne

Okay, this is going to sound stupid, but I just dont understand the dynamics of the daddy/lil girl, mommy dommy thing. I dont mean to sound rude or anything, I just dont understand it. How does it function?


Ethne
quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

I can only say that in My experience, Mommy Dommes are not as common as Daddy Doms. I have always understood quite clearly that those male submissives who are explicitly seeking a Mommy Dommy are definitely into age play.
So I would posit that there may be no true equivalent.
My opinion only, so, of course, YMMV.


I am a Mommy Domme. I call myself a Maternal Domme only because when you say you're a Mommy Domme everyone assumes you are into age play and *blanch* diapers. Most of my real time counterparts that I have met also do the same. Because of the stigma everyone attaches to "Mommy" we just don't talk about it. We don't want to explain time and again that we are not interested in diapers, but the relationship dynamic. It is one of the most misunderstood types of D/s relationship because people not familiar with it tend to automatically assumes it involves faux incest or pretending to be a child. I can't speak much to the very rare "Mommy" or "Daddy" into age play as I've never met one or spoken with one. I am a Mommy Domme in the exact same type of relationship to my husband as a Daddy to his lil girl. This type of Daddy or Mommy has has nothing to do with age play or incest. It is an intimate emotionally caring relationship based on the parent/child power dynamic. I am a very maternal and nurturing type of person. My sub doesn't wear diapers or suck on a bottle. It means I make sure he is dressed warmly when we go out. I make sure he sees a Dr if needed. I took him to get his hair cut the other day. I make decisions for him. I have him clean our room, decide what he wears out to parties, send him to bed, remind him to brush his teeth, worry about him, take him to and pick him up from work several days a week, cuddle him, stroke his hair.. pretty much mother hen type stuff. My sub and I are both aware we are creating this type of power dynamic. We both want it and get a lot from it. He is my sweet boy, my treasure and my joy. I am his protector, his shelter and his comfort.




boytoy4female -> RE: Mommy Dommes (3/21/2008 6:03:35 AM)

I am finding that most who hear of using a diaper in bdsm, immediately jump to thoughts of age play, adult babies, etc. But, there are other uses for a diaper in bdsm.

If your not into age play, what could be more humiliating that to be made to put on a diaper; it can be for humiliation, bathroom control or chastity control. Isn't it more powerful if it is something they dont seek?

Due to the fact that we start life in a diaper; and since it represents a time when we were dependent on a female for our well being, diapers are an extremely powerful psychological tool. They can be hidden under clothing, can give off a soft noise as we walk, have a distinct sound when swatted

Open your minds and see. I also often see responses stating "I have kids and dont want to change more diapers". Who's to say its not more powerful to have the sub submit by changing themselves in front of you. You can even apply rules that allow for bm's to be done in the bathroom.




youngsubgeoff -> RE: Mommy Dommes (3/24/2008 7:52:18 PM)

sorry to drag up an old thread, but...

looking over this topic, it seems that those looking for "mommy dommes" are all looking for one thing: unconditional love. Really, if you think about this, is that so wrong? Is that not a basic human need?




LaTigresse -> RE: Mommy Dommes (3/25/2008 7:49:31 AM)

I don't believe it is a need, but it is a deep desire.




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