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RE: Is your submissive also connected to your Spiritual... - 12/6/2009 10:23:02 AM   
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Conversely, when I fail to please and be everything she needs/wants me to be, I feel I fail in a spiritual sense. This can be/is very devastating.


Yes, i can understand that, though i have learned another way to view that. When i fail it is an avenue being presented to me to grow. Sometimes it can be an area where i need to challenge myself to reach further for a Dom, or if it didn't work out, then it is a lesson for me to explore and ask myself some very tough questions. In doing this, the challenge is taking the blame off Dom or me, and seeing what was meant to be learned period. That though is one of the strongest keys in my spiritual path; seeing the lesson without blaming another, and learning from it.

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Thank you Wisdomtogive. Yes, taking the lessons and learning without attaching blame or guilt is one of the hardest things in overcoming ones own weaknesses. Blame clouds the judgment, and inspires unhealthy reactions in all concerned. Yet, we all fall into it's trap from time to time..(at least I do) lol.

It's good see someone who has clearly grasped this fact...


Yes, and i look at it one further than blame and judgment - i simply have disassociated any value with "failure."  It is simply a fact, whether i failed or succeeded, and neither state has any value over the other.  When you take the emotional value and connectivity away, it simply becomes an action, and a much more simple action at that.  And once you've defined it simply as action, it becomes entirely the responsibility of my Master/Owner to determine if i am pleasing or not - precisely where the value should be.

It's entirely possible for me to "fail" and still succeed in pleasing him.  My value system will never be the same as his own.  So removing my values from my actions enables me to find that place of simply serving, existing, and being - which is again tied to the Universe, and my spirit, and is a peaceful, wonderful place to be.

Love this thread, thanks for starting it wisdomtogive.

julie

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RE: Is your submissive also connected to your Spiritual... - 12/6/2009 10:33:00 AM   
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Blame clouds the judgment, and inspires unhealthy reactions in all concerned. Yet, we all fall into it's trap from time to time..(at least I do) lol. 


Oh brother, do i..lol...That is when that 'invisible ' 2x4 comes and wakes me up. Yes, and i could with the last Dom i was with, but you know i found no reason too. i had to accept my responsibility not his, he doesnt answer to my Goddess. I also looked at it as karmic learning. I learned yes...and yes, there still a part of me that would love to 'react', but then i know that would cost me more karma and i don't want to revisit him in another life:).

Yes, sometimes people don't treat us as we think they should, but if you observe you will know they were your best teachers. Blessings under


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RE: Is your submissive also connected to your Spiritual... - 12/6/2009 10:37:00 AM   
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You are welcome UniqueRaven and thanks a lot for contributing.

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RE: Is your submissive also connected to your Spiritual... - 12/6/2009 12:36:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive

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Blame clouds the judgment, and inspires unhealthy reactions in all concerned. Yet, we all fall into it's trap from time to time..(at least I do) lol. 


Oh brother, do i..lol...That is when that 'invisible ' 2x4 comes and wakes me up. Yes, and i could with the last Dom i was with, but you know i found no reason too. i had to accept my responsibility not his, he doesnt answer to my Goddess. I also looked at it as karmic learning. I learned yes...and yes, there still a part of me that would love to 'react', but then i know that would cost me more karma and i don't want to revisit him in another life:).

Yes, sometimes people don't treat us as we think they should, but if you observe you will know they were your best teachers. Blessings under


lol. I know about that good ole 2x4.. It still hurts... Thanks for all you've shared on this thread, I feel less crazy now..:)

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