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willboyd -> politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 1:48:55 PM)

I am new here and am single.  Since I am rather shy I tend to fall back on politeness and respect when responding to the subs/slaves.  I am honest and truthful in my approach, and yet, it seems as though I am considered too weak or not stern enough, or something like that.  Is it really seen as weakness to the majority of subs/slaves?



Justme696 -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 1:51:45 PM)

I am not a sub......but some will like your politeness....and love it...others will think you are soft.
Personally...beeing polite and strong go well together.

PErhaps it is more your shyness that causes them to think you are weak. It might just be how you come across.
In time it will go away if you work on it.

btw..Just be yourself...don't be someone else..because some don't like you.



CallaFirestormBW -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 1:51:54 PM)

It has never appeared to be a weakness in our household. Of course, we tend to gravitate towards more formal manners and a depth of grace as part of the style of our household.

It seems a shame that more people don't default to more gracious, more polite behavior when in new, uncomfortable, or tense situations, instead of becoming rude and belligerent.

Dame Calla



GYPSYMAMBO -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 1:53:37 PM)

OP:
surely you jest??
 
so then RUDENESS would be a strength??
 
GM



mnottertail -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 1:54:43 PM)

Ja, fuck you!!!! LOL!!!!!!


Panamanian Strongman Manuel Noriega



GYPSYMAMBO -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 1:55:38 PM)

up yours cocksucker!!
I am a strong womin ahahahhahahah

and I LOVE YOU
 
shit now you know



HisSweetElysium -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 1:58:32 PM)

Definitely not, assertiveness and politeness do not have to be exclusive.  I received many "bow to me bitch" emails while searching. Um. No. People who were polite, read my profile, engaged with me intellectually based on my interests, etc. Those are the people I talked to and seriously considered, depending on their appropriateness in other ways. 

In my mind, a slave who serves out of low self esteem is not worth having. Only someone with low self esteem allows themselves to get treated with disrespect, by complete strangers or anyone else.  Master may call me any number of deliciously naughty names, all of which make me wiggle and smile because He loves and respects me, and if I am ever upset or hurt, concern washes over His face and He embraces me, and makes it all OK.  He may put His feet up on me, send me to a corner, force me to say things that would make a sailor blush, but it is never without respect, and He always thanks me (again politeness) and praises me for obeying Him. 

I think people who seek instant degradation  are looking for just that, a short fix.  They don't REALLY want a relationship, they want to get their rocks off.  period. Please don't change who you are thinking it is undesirable.  A sub or slave worth having will appreciate it, it just takes time to find...



mnottertail -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 1:59:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GYPSYMAMBO

up yours cocksucker!!
I am a strong womin ahahahhahahah

and I LOVE YOU
 
shit now you know



LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! you wear panties.

Animus Rex (and LOLOLOL some more!!!!!)



nubianmuscle -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 2:01:46 PM)

Not hardly.  people are people regardless of the environment and I think civility and respect for others is a great trait.  But then, there are others who see no need for it and don't respect it.  That is an obvious indicator of the type of sub who isn't right for you.



WestBaySlave -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 2:05:26 PM)

Assertive is great, but rude is unpleasant, and unwelcome at any time, especially from someone I'm just getting to know.

You're doing fine if people are saying you're too polite! They've got their own problems.



DesFIP -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 2:46:06 PM)

Whether or not a majority misread it should not concern you. Because if you have to act a part to be with someone, then the moment you stop acting they won't want to be with you.
You aren't seeking a relationship with a majority of the subs here, you're seeking one relationship with one special person.

However I wonder if you are being polite or being wishy washy. He's polite but he doesn't hem and haw. You want to subtly lead the way. You pick out the table in the coffee shop instead of waiting for her to choose. Things like that.



thaprincess -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 3:03:13 PM)

I'm polite to my sub. Why? Because I lead by example, if I am polite to him and others then that shows how he should act as well. Also I was brought up to be polite to everyone no matter what their status in life was.

At the same time though, I think a dominant has to be firm when the time comes. When my sub disappoints me, I do not yell at him or curse at him, but he can tell from the tone of my voice that I am not happy. So I see nothing wrong with being polite, subs are still humans too.



CougarStud -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 3:06:20 PM)

I think being polite and formal is wonderful.

I am enjoying teaching it to my new slave who though answering a question with "yeah" instead of "Yes' or Yes Ma'am" was perfectly fine.  She knows better now.



DarkSteven -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 3:23:17 PM)

I demand politeness from myself and from kinksters, especially any sub I am with.  I expect it from vanillas as well.



Underumam -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 4:06:24 PM)

Rude people just suck....Simple enough?



GoddessImaginos -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 4:10:37 PM)

The day that politeness becomes a sign of weakness in this or any other realm is the day I truly begin to think it may be too late for the human race as a whole. Rudeness and the demise of honor and common courtesies are a pervasive illness which afflicts the world, and although I too will demonstrate rudeness to those who give it likewise to Me, I dislike having to lower My standards in that way. Why anyone would want it any other way is beyond Me.



BKSir -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 4:17:41 PM)

I tend to be quite polite, as much as possible in any given situation.  And of all the things I've been called by people (and there are a LOT of things I get called on a regular basis), "weak" has never been one of them.

I think it is a far greater sign of weakness to let ones self get caught up in the moment and lose self control and level headedness.  If one can not control ones own actions, how should one ever be expected to control the actions, or be in control of the situation around ones self?



Underumam -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 4:52:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessImaginos

The day that politeness becomes a sign of weakness in this or any other realm is the day I truly begin to think it may be too late for the human race as a whole. Rudeness and the demise of honor and common courtesies are a pervasive illness which afflicts the world, and although I too will demonstrate rudeness to those who give it likewise to Me, I dislike having to lower My standards in that way. Why anyone would want it any other way is beyond Me.


Sadly, I already believe we are there..



breatheasone -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 5:28:38 PM)

my kids (all 20 something) were raised to be polite/respect there elders (even if the elder was wrong, one can disagree and be respectful) my grandkids are being rasied the same. We are down...but not out. [;)]



dragonseeker -> RE: politeness is it a sign of weakness? (12/4/2009 5:58:56 PM)

Politeness should be mandatory i think. Personally i don't see it as a weakness. Some of the most dominant people i know are still polite. I took a peak at your profile and I would suggest that you find a munch or a meet/greet in your local area. Some place where you can meet people face to face and talk, create bonds/friendships, and really get a more 'hands on' experience. If you can't really find any place on your own, you might want to try some other sites like FetLife, etc, just to open your field up to meeting more people in your area. I personally feel that you would benefit greatly from it. And please never stop being polite, it is not a weakness. 



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