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I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 2:02:59 PM

willbeurdaddy

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as long as it suits his agenda.

"UN human rights investigator Philip Alston warned the US that its use of unmanned warplanes to carry out targeted executions may violate "international humanitarian law." Alston said he has become increasingly concerned at the dramatic increase in drone use and says the US "will increasingly be perceived as carrying out indiscriminate killings."

"US looks to expand drone attacks in Pakistan"

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 2:04:53 PM

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Oh, Wilbur!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like america has ever given a fuck about what other nations think. Ties into my 3). nicely.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 2:10:50 PM

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as long as it suits his agenda.

"UN human rights investigator Philip Alston warned the US that its use of unmanned warplanes to carry out targeted executions may violate "international humanitarian law." Alston said he has become increasingly concerned at the dramatic increase in drone use and says the US "will increasingly be perceived as carrying out indiscriminate killings."

"US looks to expand drone attacks in Pakistan"

Gee, Willbeur. It seems Obama might want to make us look better in the eyes of the world (as opposed to lying, my way or the highway bullies) but still will put what he sees as our national and military interests ahead of world opinion. This makes you pull out your "A" letter against his continued use of drones as opposed to your "B" letter about how he is cavingto world opinion against our interest if he stopped.

Life is so easy when opposing everything Obama does is your only agenda.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 2:13:12 PM

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as long as it suits his agenda.

"UN human rights investigator Philip Alston warned the US that its use of unmanned warplanes to carry out targeted executions may violate "international humanitarian law." Alston said he has become increasingly concerned at the dramatic increase in drone use and says the US "will increasingly be perceived as carrying out indiscriminate killings."

"US looks to expand drone attacks in Pakistan"

Gee, Willbeur. It seems Obama might want to make us look better in the eyes of the world (as opposed to lying, my way or the highway bullies) but still will put what he sees as our national and military interests ahead of world opinion. This makes you pull out your "A" letter against his continued use of drones as opposed to your "B" letter about how he is cavingto world opinion against our interest if he stopped.

Life is so easy when opposing everything Obama does is your only agenda.

I didnt say I oppose the use of drones, just his hypocrisy.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 2:14:28 PM

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Yeah, he said he wouldnt use drones ever.........I am sure you are going to cite that, right?

LOLOLOLOL.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 2:16:50 PM

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His hypocrisy you oppose......hypocrisy on the part of Republicans your all right with?
What a joke. The irony is too rich.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 2:46:03 PM

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No surprise to see Wilburrr start a thread based on a guess. Sums him up perfectly.

If it rains dollars tomorrow, it was George's good planning, if there is an earthquake it is Obama's fault.

Noone so easy to dismiss as those with an agenda.

His 'dawg' will weigh in at some point and when all the toys are out of the pram they will pull out the big gun, calling someone a troll.

Tiresome.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 2:47:48 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He82NBjJqf8

the sock puppets.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:01:16 PM

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I didnt say I oppose the use of drones, just his hypocrisy.

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

If you had listened to a single bit of what Obama said on the subject during the campaign, W, you would be aware that he always said that the war in Iraq was the wrong war and the war in Afghanistan was the right one (I disagree with that but he said it). He never said he wouldn't use drones. He never said he was going to pull us out of there when he became president. Where's the hypocrisy?

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:12:28 PM

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Well that's good to hear. Now I realize you didn't start this thread to show us a positive point about the man, but you did a good job of it anyway. Thanks for that.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:15:25 PM

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Better if this were true as opposed to what you said but no such luck.

Obama Announces Draft of Rich Kids

The Post-Times
-If it were True it would be News

Today, in a surprising move, President Obama has announced that the additional 30,000 troops for Afghanistan will be drawn entirely from a draft of families making more than $200,000 per year. According to sources at the White House, who would only speak on condition of anonymity, “After so many years of poor kids dying to make rich people more powerful, the President feels it is high time they gave their pound (.45 kg) of flesh as well.”

http://digcreation.com/blog1/the-post-times/pt11

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

as long as it suits his agenda.

"UN human rights investigator Philip Alston warned the US that its use of unmanned warplanes to carry out targeted executions may violate "international humanitarian law." Alston said he has become increasingly concerned at the dramatic increase in drone use and says the US "will increasingly be perceived as carrying out indiscriminate killings."

"US looks to expand drone attacks in Pakistan"

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:29:31 PM

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I didnt say I oppose the use of drones, just his hypocrisy.
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

If you had listened to a single bit of what Obama said on the subject during the campaign, W, you would be aware that he always said that the war in Iraq was the wrong war and the war in Afghanistan was the right one (I disagree with that but he said it). He never said he wouldn't use drones. He never said he was going to pull us out of there when he became president. Where's the hypocrisy?

The hypocrisy is in his pandering to other nations and the UN, but when he finally realized that we dont have a chance to win in Afghanistan with ground troops he is quite willing to throw all of that out the window.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:31:31 PM

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The hypocrisy is in his pandering to other nations and the UN, but when he finally realized that we dont have a chance to win in Afghanistan with ground troops he is quite willing to throw all of that out the window.
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Being polite and not shouting "FUCK YOU...WE'RE AMERICA SO SUCK OUR DICKS!" is not pandering. This is a good lesson to keep in mind in both our personal and diplomatic relationships with those from other countries who aren't smart enough to realize that no one but us count, W.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:35:35 PM

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Actually the hypocricy would come in when The President condemns a former President for violating international law, and then may be doing it himself. Personally I feel the official US statement should be "We follow International Law unless we deem that there is a threat to our security.". Then again that statement would not cover what Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, or Obama has/is doing.

I agree the topic is a dig that plays to partisan politics. The retort should be "do you, or did you support the violation of international law by previous administrations? If yes, then why do you suddenly have a problem now?"

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Yeah, he said he wouldnt use drones ever.........I am sure you are going to cite that, right?

LOLOLOLOL.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:36:51 PM

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The hypocrisy is in his pandering to other nations and the UN, but when he finally realized that we dont have a chance to win in Afghanistan with ground troops he is quite willing to throw all of that out the window.
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Being polite and not shouting "FUCK YOU...WE'RE AMERICA SO SUCK OUR DICKS!" is not pandering. This is a good lesson to keep in mind in both our personal and diplomatic relationships with those from other countries who aren't smart enough to realize that no one but us count, W.

spinner strawman number 673

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:37:41 PM

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Dammit Spinner, second time you got me in one day, the first was your version of the "bible" now this....., thankyou:)

I think the analogy is that with GWB, other countries thought they were gonna get donkey punched while being shafted, Obama is using a pleasing lube and whispering deliciousness. Both may have herpes or something nasty but one is definitely more pleasing...
Oh and I know there are some out there who like the donkey punches...no disrespect meant

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:39:12 PM

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Dammit Spinner, second time you got me in one day, the first was your version of the "bible" now this....., thankyou:)
I think the analogy is that with GWB, other countries thought they were gonna get donkey punched while being shafted, Obama is using a pleasing lube and whispering deliciousness. Both may have herpes or something nasty but one is definitely more pleasing...
Oh and I know there are some out there who like the donkey punches...no disrespect meant

Obama (and the US as a result) is the one being shafted, if you havent noticed.

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:43:15 PM

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"The hypocrisy is in his pandering to other nations and the UN, but when he finally realized that we dont have a chance to win in Afghanistan with ground troops he is quite willing to throw all of that out the window. "
willbeur

Are you in posession of information the rest of us aren't...as far as I know the President just ordered almost 30,000 more troops into Afghanistan....
In addition I wold be interested to know when was the last conflict decided solely by ground troops.Drones are just the next logical step after manned aircraft.Nothing new here except the position and risk to the pilot.....on the one hand he is flying it from the cockpit....on the other he might be piloting the drone from Nellis AFB
The end result is most often the same....

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 4:51:23 PM

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Dammit Spinner, second time you got me in one day, the first was your version of the "bible" now this....., thankyou:)
I think the analogy is that with GWB, other countries thought they were gonna get donkey punched while being shafted, Obama is using a pleasing lube and whispering deliciousness. Both may have herpes or something nasty but one is definitely more pleasing...
Oh and I know there are some out there who like the donkey punches...no disrespect meant

Obama (and the US as a result) is the one being shafted, if you havent noticed.

he is??? where?? you are?? where????

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RE: I guess Obama doesnt care what other nations think - 12/4/2009 5:20:35 PM

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as long as it suits his agenda.

NEWSFLASH!!!

The president of the United States of America carries out the foreign policy of the United States of America, not of Amnesty International. WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE!

Personally, I wish AI ruled over all of us fuckers, but there you have it. JMHO

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