RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??"

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DomImus -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 4:09:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HisSweetElysium I guess I fall into that camp of "gift of submission" because it took a very special man to collar me and I knew I deserved it. If "under consideration" is the problem then the "gift of submission" is not the answer. What a load of crap. My "gift of submission". Where's Barbara Cartland when you need her?

Underumam -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 4:31:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomImus quote: ORIGINAL: HisSweetElysium I guess I fall into that camp of "gift of submission" because it took a very special man to collar me and I knew I deserved it. If "under consideration" is the problem then the "gift of submission" is not the answer. What a load of crap. My "gift of submission". Where's Barbara Cartland when you need her? A dom wouldn't understand submission from a subs perspective.

LadyAngelika -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 4:46:27 PM)
quote: "under consideration" Whether we explicitly use the term or not, when we are dating someone, they are always under consideration until we decide we want more. And I think that is a healthy thing. I think that this is when we take the time to reflect if this is the right person for us. Now telling someone that they are under consideration can be humiliating, and if they are into that, then it can be hot. I know some boys who got off on the this little game, wanting to prove their worthiness. I know some other boys who would be hurt or angered by being treated in such a way. Though they were under consideration by me, I didn't outright tell them. We called it "seeing each other". How novel! - LA

Aynne88 -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 4:51:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GYPSYMAMBO quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 No way in hell would I ever be deemed "under consideration". I am not a new car, or a job offer. How much can I get you to show me on your web cam and how much fucking phone sex can I get is what that term says to me Thanks Darling, and I am loving the new picture! this is a really good point..some doink always TWISTS shit for their own agenda.. I agree with you totally.. GM

CallaFirestormBW -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 5:13:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss You know... I vascillate with this term. I understand why people want to use it, and all, but frankly I have only one litty bitty thing about it. If I am considering an M type, does that make him under consideration too? If it doesn't, it should... And you know why? Because I'm still in the decision making stage... Funny thing, I've never seen an M type have that on their profile. I can say that, were I in a one-on-one situation of a romantic or sexual nature, and we were at that point, I'd have no issue putting such on my profile from a Keeper's standpoint... and if I did choose to do so, that -wouldn't- mean that the lover/companion in question would have to put it on theirs. In the same way, I wouldn't require someone else to label their profile that way, but if they chose to, that wouldn't necessarily compel me to do so, were I not inclined, on of my own accord, to do so. Dame Calla

wisdomtogive -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 5:32:29 PM)
Well, changing the words under consideration is easy enough to do.....i can say, not for you to consider me..move on:). I just find it a nice useful way of telling people to 'bug off'. With that said, i can play the delete button all i wish. Considering a relationship is important for me. i am grateful for that time. it gives me time to say, nope not working for me. i not one to be searching if interested in someone..never been my style. :)..

wisdomtogive -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 5:36:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomImus quote: ORIGINAL: HisSweetElysium I guess I fall into that camp of "gift of submission" because it took a very special man to collar me and I knew I deserved it. If "under consideration" is the problem then the "gift of submission" is not the answer. What a load of crap. My "gift of submission". Where's Barbara Cartland when you need her? the term gift of submissive is not my cup of tea..but this is not the topic. As with honoring who i am and under consideration is just fine with me, i can honor anyone claiming the have to gift to give another. Heck i thinking in Jan. of wrapping myself with gold ribbon and blue bulbs on my tits, so i be all shiny and can then pass as a gift:)..nay..i just present a gift of me, but not my submission.

dreamerdreaming -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 5:43:38 PM)
On the web it just seems like people use it to try to take others off the market, while they themselves continue to shop around. Not cool. If I had any use for it, my terminology would be "under mutual consideration". Because the evaluation process goes both ways. Edited after reading the post above this: EXACTLY, oceanwynds- YOU are the gift! Submit is what you do. You are the gift. <Now back to your regularly scheduled topic.>

AnimusRex -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 6:24:17 PM)
I don't what's wrong with "Currently dating someone."

Underumam -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 6:30:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming On the web it just seems like people use it to try to take others off the market, while they themselves continue to shop around. Not cool. If I had any use for it, my terminology would be "under mutual consideration". Because the evaluation process goes both ways. Edited after reading the post above this: EXACTLY, oceanwynds- YOU are the gift! Submit is what you do. You are the gift. <Now back to your regularly scheduled topic.> If only more thought as you..

SirJ40 -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 7:04:01 PM)
If you don't like scat.. don't play with shit. If you don't like blood, don't play with knives.. if you don't like the terminology.. don't use it. I'm going to use it in spite of this ridiculous attitude. I find it charming and appropriate that two people who are moving towards an intimate and lasting BDSM relationship should choose to give it dignity in the early stages by doing each other the favor of being (even temporarily) exclusive.. and let's not forget that it's the Old Guard who started the Collar of Consideration. It reminds Me of the engagement ring, or promise ring tradition.. or of Probationary membership in a group.. it's a stage, a step, a part of the process. Sure.. online, Consideration, Protection, and even Collaring are pretty intangible, and often fleeting. That only invalidates the situations they were applied to.. the old theories and traditions remain valid. Just because some peanut head somewhere decides to mock the traditions by flinging "consideration" and "collars" all over the internet, and then taking them back a week later when xhe finds a new person to obsess over, does not mean xhe has redefined the terms. If that were true.. then Collaring itself, which I for one take to be a solemn commitment, would be a total mockery by now. In My life, these kinds of things hold meaning and value. So really, don't try to tell Me that they're worthless.. if you think that....well, they're only worthless to you.

DesFIP -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 7:43:58 PM)
Re sunshine's question about why don't the doms put it on their profiles, again I think it goes back to the mail thing. They don't get mail from subs beating down their doors so they don't have to state it in a vain attempt to lessen the come ons. But I have on occasion seen an M type state that their talking seriously to someone, and thus aren't available to talk to anyone else right now. And I think that's sweet.

Thatbastard -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 8:00:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 No way in hell would I ever be deemed "under consideration". I am not a new car, or a job offer. How much can I get you to show me on your web cam and how much fucking phone sex can I get is what that term says to me. I am sure for some it is probably a bit more authentic than that, but when I was new and naive I heard that term dangled in front of me like a carrot by way to many "Doms." Yeah...no. Thank you! That was my impression too, but it's helpful from your angle. It seemed like demanding commitment without giving it. And I always seem to see the new folks going with it. But I try not to make a habit of bashing other dominants in absence of specific facts.

wisdomtogive -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 8:00:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming On the web it just seems like people use it to try to take others off the market, while they themselves continue to shop around. Not cool. If I had any use for it, my terminology would be "under mutual consideration". Because the evaluation process goes both ways. Edited after reading the post above this: EXACTLY, oceanwynds- YOU are the gift! Submit is what you do. You are the gift. <Now back to your regularly scheduled topic.> awwwwwwwwwwwww, thank you..:) thank you very much..now going to look through my boxes of ribbons:). Thanks dreaming... oceanwynd:)

sunshinemiss -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 8:16:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AnimusRex I don't what's wrong with "Currently dating someone." DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!

LadyAngelika -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 8:21:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss quote: ORIGINAL: AnimusRex I don't what's wrong with "Currently dating someone." DING DING DING!!! We have a winner! I actually posted that 6 posts earlier. I also added that "under consideration" could be used for humiliation game. - LA

littlewonder -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 8:30:25 PM)
under consideration...ie.....dating

LafayetteLady -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 9:27:11 PM)
I've seen the term explained in this post in very good ways. The problem I have (which someone else also mentioned) is that too often, some domly dom says he wants some sub to put "under consideration" on their profile as a means of keeping others away. Kind of like a wolf pissing on a tree to mark it's territory. To me both parties when seriously discussing moving forward are under consideration. Why not use the statement that DesFIP used, "state that their talking seriously to someone, and thus aren't available to talk to anyone else right now." That seems to work for both sides. Of course that's for those talking about one on one relationships, not situations that Dame Calla is describing. I guess for me that term "under consideration" goes along with those profiles that state "accepting applications" and "tell me why I should want you." Very one sides as though the dom in question is the be all, end all and seems to think that everyone wants them and the sub should be lucky to be put under consideration by said dom. Regardless of who is going to eventually be "in charge," each needs to be "worthy" of the other. For those reasons, whenever I see that phrase, it just raises a red flag for me.

LadyPact -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/4/2009 11:30:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss Funny thing, I've never seen an M type have that on their profile. Actually, I've had it on My profile.

LPslittleclip -> RE: So unsublike, I have to post it here --"under consideration??" (12/5/2009 7:26:23 AM)
for some its like having a engagement ring to show otheres that your off the market so to speak. for some it dosent deter them at all. if it dosent suit you to use it then dont. i was under consideration of my Mistress for a while and i liked having it there to show how proud i was to possibly be Hers.

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