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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

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ORIGINAL: persephonee

In a 24/7 situation, by which i mean, living together primarily....Rules 1 and 2 are going to have to go out the window. Other than that, theres nothing listed that would be particularly objectionable or hard to follow.

There's nothing wrong with rule number 3?  What if the house is on fire?  Is he just supposed to burn if he can't reach the OP to let her know that he's leaving the house?  And all women are goddesses and will be treated accordingly?  What if a woman is attempting to steal his wallet?  I'm sure the OP would say, "Oh, I didn't mean it under those circumstances," but that is exactly what is wrong with these rules in the first place:  they just aren't practical.

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ORIGINAL: thaprincess

Ok so I'm new to the scene, but I came up with a list of preliminary rules for my sub. I'm getting Miss Abernathy's Ominus tomorrow  so after I read that I may revise them a little if I read something that catches my attention and/or I think will benefit my sub and I. Anyway, here are my 7 rules for him. We both want a 24/7 live in relationship sooner or later, so some of the rules reflect that aspect we wish to bring to our relationship in the future. Anyway, some feedback on whether or not you think they are good would be awesome. And thank you in advance.

1) Princess' word is law. There will be no back talk to her of any kind.
2) Whenever Princess enters the room you are to hit the floor on all fours, your head bowed low to the ground. You must not rise until you are given permission to do so. In public places you are to only kneel before her, keeping your head bowed low until she tells you to rise. You are also to be silent during this time unless she directly speaks to you.
3) You are not to leave the house without Princess knowing of your whereabouts. You are her slave and as such you will always check in with her before making any decisions on where you will go aside from ones that are work related.
4) You are not to call any other woman by the name of Mistress. You may use the titles of Miss or Ma'am, but never Mistress. You only have one Mistress and she is Princess [insert my name here].
5) When speaking to your Mistress, you are to always to call her Princess unless told otherwise by her.
6) You are to show all women respect and treat them as the goddesses they are.
7) You are to never forget that serving your Mistress is a privilege and not a right. You are lucky to belong to her and even luckier to get the honour to serve her.

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ORIGINAL: thaprincess

Ok so I'm new to the scene, but I came up with a list of preliminary rules for my sub. I'm getting Miss Abernathy's Ominus tomorrow  so after I read that I may revise them a little if I read something that catches my attention and/or I think will benefit my sub and I. Anyway, here are my 7 rules for him. We both want a 24/7 live in relationship sooner or later, so some of the rules reflect that aspect we wish to bring to our relationship in the future. Anyway, some feedback on whether or not you think they are good would be awesome. And thank you in advance.

1) Princess' word is law. There will be no back talk to her of any kind.
2) Whenever Princess enters the room you are to hit the floor on all fours, your head bowed low to the ground. You must not rise until you are given permission to do so. In public places you are to only kneel before her, keeping your head bowed low until she tells you to rise. You are also to be silent during this time unless she directly speaks to you.
3) You are not to leave the house without Princess knowing of your whereabouts. You are her slave and as such you will always check in with her before making any decisions on where you will go aside from ones that are work related.
4) You are not to call any other woman by the name of Mistress. You may use the titles of Miss or Ma'am, but never Mistress. You only have one Mistress and she is Princess [insert my name here].
5) When speaking to your Mistress, you are to always to call her Princess unless told otherwise by her.
6) You are to show all women respect and treat them as the goddesses they are.
7) You are to never forget that serving your Mistress is a privilege and not a right. You are lucky to belong to her and even luckier to get the honour to serve her.

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ORIGINAL: thaprincess

1) Princess' word is law. There will be no back talk to her of any kind. Limiting communication is never good. And the input of another is always valuable.
2) Whenever Princess enters the room you are to hit the floor on all fours, your head bowed low to the ground. You must not rise until you are given permission to do so. In public places you are to only kneel before her, keeping your head bowed low until she tells you to rise. You are also to be silent during this time unless she directly speaks to you. This would never fly with me...but whatever floats your boat. I would rethink the kneeling in public stuff though, as it is not fair to include bystanders in your kink.
3) You are not to leave the house without Princess knowing of your whereabouts. You are her slave and as such you will always check in with her before making any decisions on where you will go aside from ones that are work related. When in a relationship i see this as basic courtesy, having nothing to do with kink,
4) You are not to call any other woman by the name of Mistress. You may use the titles of Miss or Ma'am, but never Mistress. You only have one Mistress and she is Princess [insert my name here]. Cool
5) When speaking to your Mistress, you are to always to call her Princess unless told otherwise by her. Cool again
6) You are to show all women respect and treat them as the goddesses they are. Respect is earned. I think it is highly degrading to expect someone to be courteous at all times simply because of gender. If he is treated rudely, he should not be afraid to respond in an appropriate manner.
7) You are to never forget that serving your Mistress is a privilege and not a right. You are lucky to belong to her and even luckier to get the honour to serve her. And you are lucky he belongs to you...yadayada. It is a two way street.

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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...for once I am going to be exceedingly diplomatic...

Feeling okay, Ven?

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

Being obnoxious is more fun, though, so I think I'll stick with that.

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To the OP:  One of the things you didn't mention is how you will punish for infractions . . . .

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

To the OP:  One of the things you didn't mention is how you will punish for infractions.  For example, what if he forgets to call you Princess?  What if he does it more than once?  Do you want a relationship that's based on a punishment dynamic?  Will it be physical punishment?  Monetary punishment?  Banishment from your presence?  Taking away something pleasurable?  If there are no consequences, what's the point to having rules?

What if there's a genuine misunderstanding about interpreting a rule in a situation that you hadn't considered?  Will he be punished if he made what he thought was a good decision, even if it turns out it is displeasing to you? 

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

I'm replying to the very first post in this thread.

My advice is to wait on most of this "rule" idea until you two have gone through the Miss Abernathy books together.

Those books are not philosophy, they are more like workbooks and you need to work through them together if you want to get real benefit from them. You need to read them first, obviously, but then you both need to set up a schedule to start working through them, especially the "Training with" book.

Here is my strong advice, please do think about it because I'm giving it to you in all seriousness.

First, read "Concise Slave Training Manual" yourself. Give yourself at least two weeks to read through it and think about it, taking notes, doing any reflections the book suggests. There are few sections in that book that your sub may benefit from and you'll know them when you see them.

IF you feel a connection to that first book's approach then tackle the "Training with" book. This is a training manual, reading it through does next to nothing. You have to actively use it.

Now, I have almost two decades of experience but I first started using this book many, many years ago. Because I had about 7 years real community, and purposely, conscious experience, I could guide a submissive through the first 20 lessons in about 16 weeks (because the "Preliminaries" are more thought exercise than practice so you can do a few at a time).

You may need more than a week per lesson in the "Basic" section because you are new and I'm assuming he is new, too. You may also need more time depending on your schedules and work requirements. But at least give each lesson (lessons 7-20) one week because you need to honestly do those exercises and make the investments required.

Guess what? For each lesson he has to do, you do, too, because this is your first time with it. I did all the lessons myself over the course of six months myself before I used it but I had time to invest in that learning process while I continued to gain basic experiences with play partners.

Now if you get through that you might want to tackle the "Area Studies" and again this takes months to do even if you only do one or two of the categories.

I know I'm being a downer of reality but this is my best advice for you and anyone else looking at these books.

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ORIGINAL: thaprincess

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ORIGINAL: mc1234

Just a few thoughts below about your rules.

"1) Princess' word is law. There will be no back talk to her of any kind."

OK.  Have you addressed how your sub is to handle issues which will pop up within your relationship?  Have you thought about how to handle the usual conflicts and questions that he/she may have? 

We've discussed this numerous times and although I made up that rule, I constantly communicate with him and ask him if he has any suggestions or questions about anything. It's not like I tell him to be a mindless human being with no thoughts or ideas, but I can see how that would be somewhat confusing to others if they don't know the dynamic we're trying to put into place which is for constant open communication. When I say no back talk he understands that I mean when I tell him to do something after we've discussed it and I've considered his feelings as well as the impact it may have on him and/or I, he's to do as I say. I'm not harsh with him.

And haha lusciouslips I did actually find your comment to be funny because my parents wouldn't be happy if they knew about my life, then again they are ultra conservative and so anything that deviates from mainstream vanilla life would be disturbing to them. But I like a good laugh every now and then even if it's at my newbie mistakes.

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ORIGINAL: thaprincess

Ok so I'm new to the scene, but I came up with a list of preliminary rules for my sub. I'm getting Miss Abernathy's Ominus tomorrow  so after I read that I may revise them a little if I read something that catches my attention and/or I think will benefit my sub and I. Anyway, here are my 7 rules for him. We both want a 24/7 live in relationship sooner or later, so some of the rules reflect that aspect we wish to bring to our relationship in the future. Anyway, some feedback on whether or not you think they are good would be awesome. And thank you in advance.

1) Princess' word is law. There will be no back talk to her of any kind.
2) Whenever Princess enters the room you are to hit the floor on all fours, your head bowed low to the ground. You must not rise until you are given permission to do so. In public places you are to only kneel before her, keeping your head bowed low until she tells you to rise. You are also to be silent during this time unless she directly speaks to you.
3) You are not to leave the house without Princess knowing of your whereabouts. You are her slave and as such you will always check in with her before making any decisions on where you will go aside from ones that are work related.
4) You are not to call any other woman by the name of Mistress. You may use the titles of Miss or Ma'am, but never Mistress. You only have one Mistress and she is Princess [insert my name here].
5) When speaking to your Mistress, you are to always to call her Princess unless told otherwise by her.
6) You are to show all women respect and treat them as the goddesses they are.
7) You are to never forget that serving your Mistress is a privilege and not a right. You are lucky to belong to her and even luckier to get the honour to serve her.

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In public places you are to only kneel before her, keeping your head bowed low until she tells you to rise. You are also to be silent during this time unless she directly speaks to you

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You are not to leave the house without Princess knowing of your whereabouts. You are her slave and as such you will always check in with her before making any decisions on where you will go aside from ones that are work related

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  You are to show all women respect and treat them as the goddesses they are

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

You need to take a chill pill .

Kevin

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ORIGINAL: rockspider

To add a person totally dedicatd to me in my household I would say cost a minimum of 1000 $ a month. That is for somebody who have no outside interest. Uses her day doing chores and the rest watching telly or use the internet. She would be excluded going along on holidays, rarely coming out when i go to restaurants bars or things like that. A car is also out of the question and so is smoking, which is rather unfair as i do smoke. This is in a country where medical insurance is for free by the way.
I often wonder how a 20 year old girl can afford that. Also how she really managed to get a home together which is large enough to take the addition?

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ORIGINAL: MistressMaster85

The only things a true slave dedicated to someone needs is food, water, shelter, and the hygiene things a female slave would need.

Do you really believe that's all a slave needs?  How do you define need?  Basic survival...or more?

1000 a month sounds a little (ok a lot) high. I don't even spend that much on myself a YEAR. And as far as having a home, I know single 20 year old Dommes that have slaves that live in 1 bedroom apartments. So as far as having the ROOM, that's ridiculous.

Interesting...where would you purpose to keep this slave of little needs?  In the cupboard under the stairs?

I know I am new to these posts, but this post is just a little off. And if the slave is dedicated to me, she wouldn't smoke anyway. Even if I did, which I don't. What I do is my business, and the slave would have to deal with it.
A Domme only has to cater to a slave's NEEDS, not wants. Wants can be rewards for good behavior, etc. But are not necessary.

I guess it comes back to how you define wants and needs.  Food, water, shelter and basic hygiene products...that's it for needs, right?  What about health, employment, family...reality-based things like that?