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RE: Removing gender - 9/4/2004 8:14:37 PM   
MrThorns


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ORIGINAL: jillwfsub4blkdom

Thorns,
Have You ever done any scenes at play parties with male subs? Maybe it would help You sort Your feelings out through that in some way. Just a thought.


No, I haven't, but I am definately considering the possibility.

~Thorns

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RE: Removing gender - 9/5/2004 7:02:01 PM   
LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: monsieur42
Dear Lady Angelika,
You say this was a trick with vanilla boyfriends. Why not with subs too? Did you ever stretch a sub boy to accept (or suffer?) a threesome in a bdsm relation?


Nah. I just do with sub boys as I please ;)

In all seriousness, I've never co-dommed with another woman... but I guess the tactic would work just as well.

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RE: Removing gender - 9/5/2004 8:28:03 PM   
MistressJada


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Status: offline 		I like to be sexually attracted to my subs. That's a requirement for me. So I guess that means that the only woman I'd like to top would be Angelina Jolie. Otherwise, I'm into men.

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People who aren't honest about gender - 9/5/2004 8:50:26 PM   
mysticalisme


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Status: offline 		Hi, everyone,
I just thought i would drop a few lines and let everyone who come to this know that there is a person on this site, who is a transexual posing on this site as a female not saying a thing about the true gender. This persons name is LadyMichelle and she is really a he who had set up a play date with my hubby and myself, and backed out only to find out that as i said, she is a he. I am very glad or should i say she/he should be very glad it didnt happen cause had a found a penis on her/him i would have kicked him in it and walked straight up out of there. Im not saying there is anything wrong with being transexual, but at least be honest about it on the profile. No one likes to be tricked like that.

Precious

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RE: People who aren't honest about gender - 9/5/2004 9:04:16 PM   
Sundew02


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Status: offline 		mystic, Notify a moderator. And yes I agree the sex should be correct, no matter what the person WISHES their gender to be. But you do need to understand that you can not post anyones name, handle, etc. As it is your word against theirs and although you know you are correct the moderators at collarme do not. So CYB your ass and remove the handle from your post. Be safe, Sundew

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RE: Removing gender - 9/5/2004 11:51:24 PM   
yoursMaam


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Status: offline 		Dear Mr Thorns,
ImHO, there is always a difference, and in some cases the differences can be very important. For instance, While i might use a butter knife to put in or take out a screw, and a fork to pull a nail out of the wall, but i would not set my dinnertable with a prybar and screwdriver.
It is never unreasonable to look for exactly what You want in a tool, a utensil or a slave. It is also not unreasonable to be flexible and adapt what is available to the task at hand.

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RE: Removing gender - 9/6/2004 4:23:21 AM   
Madame


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Status: offline 		The Topic is Removing gender ..

OUCH! That's GOT to Hurt!

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RE: People who aren't honest about gender - 9/6/2004 12:02:39 PM   
LadyAngelika


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Status: offline 		Yes. This person has issues in not coming forward with who they are really.

However, you should rise above it and not let yourself be dragged to their level with comments about physical violence.

Rise above it and you'll realise you are better for it.

- LA

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RE: People who aren't honest about gender - 9/6/2004 12:14:06 PM   
ShrewWhisperer


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Status: offline 		Lanette,

Every sub has to be handled as what he or she is....so if it wouldn't work to do something like removing your gender...the a dom would be a fool to try it. the only hard fast rule in any of this is that it (defined as the sex/kink/etc) has to work. If you try watersports on someone who will freak, in a bad way, then all htat has happened is you've lost a sub and ruined the sheets. I personally like women who couldn't have the strenght of their femininity stripped away from the with a razor in the same way I dislike macho guys who start crying when they hit the first sign of adversity.

I'd use both in order to make the scene work if that was what was required cuz at the end of the day the only thing left is going to be the memories.

One place Lady A. and seem to strongly agree, is that a sub has to retain themselves...if they are suited for slavery their nature will make things possible, if they aren't; a dominant will figger that out pretty quick and either go for a quick out or really push into it since they wasted our time.

It sorta amazes me that folks keep looking for rules in all of this, it is improv folks not kabuki, no performance is the same...and to quote my dog "I like myself cuz I can"..."and sometimes I find a peanut"

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RE: Gender trouble - 9/6/2004 12:26:10 PM   
LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: ShrewWhisperer
One place Lady A. and seem to strongly agree, is that a sub has to retain themselves...if they are suited for slavery their nature will make things possible, if they aren't; a dominant will figger that out pretty quick and either go for a quick out or really push into it since they wasted our time.


Uh huh! I’ve been in that situation a few times myself to be honest. Walk away or push over the edge. Usually it’s because the sub in question is not realistic with themselves about what it is that they want and what it is that they are willing to give. They want to be super-sub, a yes boy/girl. And then when it comes time to put those words into action, they freeze up and try and negotiate themselves out of everything or pull emotional “I’m not up to it”. Now and then, fine. I’m human too. But when it becomes evident that someone doesn’t want to submit, it becomes very unappealing to me. I’m no more into a unenthused sub then I am into a corpse.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShrewWhisperer
It sorta amazes me that folks keep looking for rules in all of this, it is improv folks not kabuki, no performance is the same...


Wouldn’t it be so mundane if it were? If we Dominants were all a bunch of spanking machines catering to a great overall BDSM code of conduct! If all the subs were little carbons of one another, all nodding together in unison.

It would start off a little something like this…

“A SQUAT grey building of only thirty-four stories. Over the main entrance the words, CENTRAL LONDON HATCHERY AND CONDITIONING CENTRE, and, in a shield, the World State's motto, COMMUNITY, IDENTITY, STABILITY.” – Huxley

- LA

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RE: People who aren't honest about gender - 9/6/2004 1:25:48 PM   
afmvdp


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Status: offline 		While I would agree they certainly should have said something before it got around to talking about play...to many they do not see it as hiding anything. In their minds, they are female it's simple as that. The gender remnants of a prior existence are far less significant to them as what they in their hearts, mind, and body feel that they are. Plus with hormones, surgeries, and some generalized life changes they are far closer than you might imagine. Your reaction of such an angry, violent way is just rather disturbing to say the least. Again, it always shocks me how judgemental people in this scene can be.

On a complete sidenote though, after looking at the picture...if you couldn't tell that was a tv...then I think you must be rather naive...or blind.

sidenote: why is it that people are quick to jump to this persons side yet whenever someone comes on here badmouthing a Dom/me they get the 5th degree. I thought the general rule was no badmouthing anyone using their direct names without them here to defend themselves. If you have a problem, bring it up with a mod or siteop sure...but flaming is flaming

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