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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 1:11:14 PM   
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So my question is, anyone have any funny story’s about what they did to a survey taker or hey even a telemarketer?


I have a few things that I have done to poor, hapless telemarketers.

This one guy called and was offering carpet cleaning. I wrote on paper for my wife (at the time) to start yelling and screaming at me. I started screaming at her. Exasperated, I finally asked the guy if his carpet cleaning could clean up large amounts of blood from a carpet. He hung up.

Another victim of mine called me and announced who he was and who he worked for and asked how I was doing. Well, I told him that I had just gotten into a car accident in the morning and that I couldn't get into work. I told him that my boss didn't believe me so he fired me. I told him that my wife was having an affair with another woman. I told him that I found out that the bank was going to foreclose on my house because I was behind in the payments and I would have to live in my car. He tried to get his sales pitch in and I cut him off and said that I thought he wanted to know how I was doing. I told him that I had found a pound of marijuana in my son's room and that I suspected he was dealing drugs. I told him that my mother was ill and that she was not expected to live much longer. I told him I was suicidal. He hung up.

The final one was a guy trying to sell windows. He called and began his pitch. I sat there and answered his questions. I told him that I was greatly interested in his product and that I only had a few questions for him. I explained to him that my wife was a mental patient and she was inclined to trying to escape the house through the windows. I told him that in order to stop this from happening that I wanted to install new windows with bars and I asked if his company could do that. He said that he wasn't sure. I told him that any reputable window company should offer those types of services because I am sure that I was not the only one that needed them. He was flustered at this point. I told him that I had one more question for him. I asked him what his shoe size was. He hung up.

I have my caveat: Let the caller beware.

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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 1:37:34 PM   
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lmao. And I thought I was a meanie fart.

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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 4:33:07 PM   
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Wow Mistress I did not know this.. hmmm I wonder if my company has a way to get around this. We are allowed to tell people we get their names from the phone book. Interesting :)



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Actually Windy, it is called the National Do Not Call Registry. ALL companies who make unsolicited phone calls are required to buy this list which costs about 500.00 dollars every 6 months. *The only exception is Not For Profit/Non profit organizations* If you call someone who is on the DNC list, the company can be fined up to 4,000 dollars. Each State has a Regulatory commission that companies are required to register with before making one phone call.

I used to own a Marketing company and was almost fined 8,000 dollars because I wasnt registered with the Tn. Regulatory Commission. I ended up closing my business when the National Registry came along. I couldnt afford to make a bad call. Just because your company is only taking surveys doesnt mean they are not required to be on the list. You are still calling people who have not contacted you and asked you to reply by phone to them. It's called an unsolicited phone call.

In answer to your OP <s> because of my past experience being a "Telemarketer" I am kind to them. They are only doing their jobs. I say no thank you, but in a firm voice. Most of the time that is enough. I am pretty intimidating over the phone <wg>



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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 4:39:00 PM   
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This too is interesting information. Good thing I'm doing this job only to help pay the bills while im in school.. .. oh gosh im going to be in school a long time. None the less there are lot's of sucky jobs :)


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ORIGINAL: windy135
Hi! We don't have a list to take them off. We get their number from a phone book. We are a small company so we don't have a list on a computer or anything our surveys and such are pencil paper


That's incredible. Taking numbers from a phone book is not an accepted research methodology. That is the sort of thing telephone sales people do, but people doing research are held to a higher standard because their results are supposed to reflect an external universe from which names have been selected in a random (I won't go into details here but suffice it to say the procedure is strict and complex) manner.

No attack on you, Windy, but it sounds as if you are either working for a stealth sales organization or a con-game pretending to do research for unsuspecting clients. Neither is good news.

My background: a doctorate in mass communications research with emphasis in statistics and sampling and a senior vice presidency at Erdos and Morgan, a research and surveying firm then located on Madison Ave.


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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 4:45:59 PM   
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hahaha these are great. I wish someone would play with me like that while I was working.. hehe

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quote:

So my question is, anyone have any funny story’s about what they did to a survey taker or hey even a telemarketer?


I have a few things that I have done to poor, hapless telemarketers.

This one guy called and was offering carpet cleaning. I wrote on paper for my wife (at the time) to start yelling and screaming at me. I started screaming at her. Exasperated, I finally asked the guy if his carpet cleaning could clean up large amounts of blood from a carpet. He hung up.

Another victim of mine called me and announced who he was and who he worked for and asked how I was doing. Well, I told him that I had just gotten into a car accident in the morning and that I couldn't get into work. I told him that my boss didn't believe me so he fired me. I told him that my wife was having an affair with another woman. I told him that I found out that the bank was going to foreclose on my house because I was behind in the payments and I would have to live in my car. He tried to get his sales pitch in and I cut him off and said that I thought he wanted to know how I was doing. I told him that I had found a pound of marijuana in my son's room and that I suspected he was dealing drugs. I told him that my mother was ill and that she was not expected to live much longer. I told him I was suicidal. He hung up.

The final one was a guy trying to sell windows. He called and began his pitch. I sat there and answered his questions. I told him that I was greatly interested in his product and that I only had a few questions for him. I explained to him that my wife was a mental patient and she was inclined to trying to escape the house through the windows. I told him that in order to stop this from happening that I wanted to install new windows with bars and I asked if his company could do that. He said that he wasn't sure. I told him that any reputable window company should offer those types of services because I am sure that I was not the only one that needed them. He was flustered at this point. I told him that I had one more question for him. I asked him what his shoe size was. He hung up.

I have my caveat: Let the caller beware.


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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 5:57:16 PM   
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Wow Mistress I did not know this.. hmmm I wonder if my company has a way to get around this. We are allowed to tell people we get their names from the phone book. Interesting :)


If you are genuine reseachers, you are exempt from the law. The same goes for non-profit fundraisers and politicians. It's a fairly narrow law.

On the other hand, using a phone book as a universe is a very sloppy way of doing research. If they really are doing research, they are ripping off their customers.

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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 6:23:33 PM   
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If you are genuine reseachers, you are exempt from the law. The same goes for non-profit fundraisers and politicians. It's a fairly narrow law.

On the other hand, using a phone book as a universe is a very sloppy way of doing research. If they really are doing research, they are ripping off their customers.



Well I'm just a caller and I can tell you that you sound much more educated on such than the people I'm working for. For some reason I'm pretty sure that the customers come to my company because we do the phone dialing.. instead of mail surveys and such.. JohnWarner could to dummy down the meaning of quantitative and qualitative research the company also does secondary research .. but the main thing are focus groups. thanks much :)

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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 6:59:19 PM   
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If you are genuine reseachers, you are exempt from the law. The same goes for non-profit fundraisers and politicians. It's a fairly narrow law.

On the other hand, using a phone book as a universe is a very sloppy way of doing research. If they really are doing research, they are ripping off their customers.


Well I'm just a caller and I can tell you that you sound much more educated on such than the people I'm working for. For some reason I'm pretty sure that the customers come to my company because we do the phone dialing.. instead of mail surveys and such.. JohnWarner could to dummy down the meaning of quantitative and qualitative research the company also does secondary research .. but the main thing are focus groups. thanks much :)


Well, there is no legal standard or licences for "research." Some homeless guy can hang a sign that says "Omega Research" on his refrigerator crate and be just as legitimate a company as Erdos and Morgan. That's one of the reasons the AMA (American Marketing Association) spends a lot of money each year to try to educate businesses so they know if they are getting good research or bad.

On the other hand, some companies don't want good research. They want research to come out the way they want it. We did focus groups with both university and corporate librarians about a book that was nearing publications. The publisher would have been smarter to have done this earlier because the almost unanimous decision was that the book was useless.

I was offered a "bonus" if I could "reevaluate" the report. I declined. I pointed out that the report was theirs and no one else would see it. It was really too bad they couldn't use it in their advertising, but that wasn't my problem.

We never received another commission from them.

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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 7:05:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: windy135
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If you are genuine reseachers, you are exempt from the law. The same goes for non-profit fundraisers and politicians. It's a fairly narrow law.

On the other hand, using a phone book as a universe is a very sloppy way of doing research. If they really are doing research, they are ripping off their customers.


Well I'm just a caller and I can tell you that you sound much more educated on such than the people I'm working for. For some reason I'm pretty sure that the customers come to my company because we do the phone dialing.. instead of mail surveys and such.. JohnWarner could to dummy down the meaning of quantitative and qualitative research the company also does secondary research .. but the main thing are focus groups. thanks much :)


Well, there is no legal standard or licences for "research." Some homeless guy can hang a sign that says "Omega Research" on his refrigerator crate and be just as legitimate a company as Erdos and Morgan. That's one of the reasons the AMA (American Marketing Association) spends a lot of money each year to try to educate businesses so they know if they are getting good research or bad.

On the other hand, some companies don't want good research. They want research to come out the way they want it. We did focus groups with both university and corporate librarians about a book that was nearing publications. The publisher would have been smarter to have done this earlier because the almost unanimous decision was that the book was useless.

I was offered a "bonus" if I could "reevaluate" the report. I declined. I pointed out that the report was theirs and no one else would see it. It was really too bad they couldn't use it in their advertising, but that wasn't my problem.

We never received another commission from them.



I guess I never gave it too much thought. Kinda bums me out that I could be working for such a lousy company .. but oh well it is good experience. I've already noticed that I've gained lot's of conversational practice speaking with so many people I don't know. I can't wait until after graduate school and uhh finally have a career where I'm doing something I'm interested in.. Thanks for the info JohnWarren :)

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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 7:13:04 PM   
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If I get a call of any kind along these lines, I don't even think about it, I just state my own scripted reply: "I don't want to answer any of your questions and I don't want to talk to you. Please take me off your calling list. Goodbye." Then I just hang up, usually while the person on the other end of the line is explaining something further to me.

Call backs go unanswered.




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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/16/2006 7:20:31 PM   
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I guess I never gave it too much thought. Kinda bums me out that I could be working for such a lousy company .. but oh well it is good experience. I've already noticed that I've gained lot's of conversational practice speaking with so many people I don't know. I can't wait until after graduate school and uhh finally have a career where I'm doing something I'm interested in.. Thanks for the info JohnWarren :)


Don't sweat it. In school, we do what makes money and gives us the right schedule. In my undergraduate days, I spent two year shoveling chicken shit and the last one working in the animal morgue doing "posts" to find out what killed the little critters. (Hint: Tire tracks on a piglet are a definite clue.)

I was lucky in my graduate days as I was able to get teaching and research assistantships but at one point, I spent a summer as an assembly line worker, and at another, as an assistant for a law firm. Latter paid better; former was more honest work.

What degree are you headed for, Windy?

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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/17/2006 12:27:03 AM   
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The worst I ever did was pointing out several methodological errors on a survey form and sending it back without any answers, but with the kind advice to take methodology 101 again. Telephone surveys I often refuse unless I see some non-commercial scientific value. Telemarketeers (read: phone spammers) can be expected to do their whole story with me just going "hmm" "yeah" "well", only saying no at the bitter end. Fortunately, I don't get called often. The advantage of having an unlisted number I guess.

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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/17/2006 1:13:47 AM   
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Sooo I don't want to stir up drama here .... but I felt inclined to fill people in a bit.

The FCC doesn't regulate market research, and no market research company has to put ANYONE on a DNC list.

I know this because I worked for a reputable research company for over three years. We did all kinds of research- and depending on what kind it was ... we got our calling lists (which were refreshed every three weeks- and NO one was called back more then twice, even if they wanted to be) from different sources. Sometimes the clients would provide it (such as Satisfaction surveys... you can't call people who don't use some product or service to be satisfied about) and sometimes we bought large pools of numbers to call randomly all over the country.

We DID however have our own private DNC list, and we put people on it out of politeness and good ethics. We also made a point to put all cell numbers on a list and NEVER recall them again. Same for people who were out of the country.

And all of our surveys were conducted to strict guidelines and verbatim. People regularly got fired for going off the script even once because you just can't keep clients and do shoddy research. Not all research companies are the same and go by the same ethics.

((And just to rant at people who get bitchy about being called a "dinner": EVERYONE EATS DINNER AT A DIFFERENT TIME!!!! But they'd be happy to call you back at a more convientant time.))

On the other hand I also did teleMARKETING for about three months. It was the WORST job ever. And not because people were rude or anything. Acutally people were usually polite and seemed to understand that this was just something I did to pay my bills. But... the company I worked for totally scammed, cheated and lied their way into sales. I didn't do great at it because I'm not a liar and I don't scam people, and I quit when I noticed that this was pretty encouraged. Also different states regulate the DNC list and so different rules apply in different states. The National Do Not Call list used to be a privatized thing, but now I am not sure of the federal regulations.

And a TIP to the interested... You are NEVER put on the Do Not Call List unless you say "Put me on your Do Not Call List" ... if you just say... "Don't call again" or "Take me off your list" and hang up... no one will take you off their list and they don't have to. And you must indicate that you are the person responcible for the phone. This was regularly told to us TeleMARKETERS...

And if you live in some states, if you do get called back by the same company.. it can mean a fat check to you if you write down the call, and the person's name calling you AGAIN, and the company ... IF you used that phrase "Put me on your Do not call list."... I can only recall Illinois and maybe Florida for sure.

Good luck to everyone with their calling problems.... If anyone has DSL they might consider getting a Vonage phone. I have one, it works perfectly and I have never gotten an unsolicited phone call EVER.



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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/17/2006 1:26:23 AM   
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Oh.. one more thing I wanted to add..


All the times people were weird on the phone... whether doing reserach (which could get boring) or doing sales briefly .. (which was MIND NUMBING) I LOVED LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVED it when people would "screw" with me. I'd be laughing along and totally going along with all their loopy antics. It was the only thing that really broke up the boring work day...

Some interesting things that happened to me:

I was proposed to by an older gentleman.

I was offered a job answering phones for a guy who owned an escort service in Georgia "And honey, I don't know what you look like but if you are as sexy as you sound you can have a job with more than just answering phones for me." !!!?!!

A lady complained to me of getting arrested while using a product I was doing research about because it had apparently been previously involved in some drug related crime! GOODNESS A different lady complained that her daughter got covered with live roaches using one of these products as well.... EEW

I got sent TWO dozen lilies in the middle of winter by the SWEETEST widower named Lou (Lou if you are reading this... I heart you... you were so sweet.. years later I still remember your sweet advice and the long talk I had ... I'm so glad you didn't just hang up on the midwestern girl trying to sell you lame long distance!... feel free to email me and we can talk some more) Yes.. it might have seemed dangerous to give a stranger my home address, but it turned out fine and he was in Florida while I was in Missouri sooooo what was the harm??

Some woman accused me of being her husbands Mistress. Which reminds me.. if you ever are having an affair it might be a trixie idea to pretend to be a telemarketer.

So many random funny stories... and having to say weird names after just getting to glimpse them for two seconds is HARD... especially when their last name is "Seaman" or "Phuket" god... the mute botton would go on and I would crack up laughing. Ahh... poor people. I actually literally called someone named Dick Seaman.

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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/17/2006 3:38:50 AM   
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I guess it would be a good time now to mention how to get on the Do Not Call List administered by the FTC

https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx


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RE: They call me a research interviewer but really... - 3/17/2006 3:50:34 PM   
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Nikolette: haha I loved your stories and advice! thanks I needed that

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