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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 5:37:17 PM

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Im open minded to sarcastic crap

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 5:43:05 PM

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OK for my 2 cents here.

The way I see it, asking how open minded someone is, is about the same as asking their idea of what normal is. What I consider normal may not necessarily be what you consider normal. I would consider myself open minded. For as long as I can remember. However, I do have issues with pedophiles and beastiality. So, I am sure there are some out there who would think me not so "open minded".

As far as what others think of me, there is only a few people whose opinion I value. And even then, it is taken with a grain of salt.

And just because I belong to this "lifestyle" does not mean that I have to be accepting of everything that goes on in it.

Take care,

Exactly .. which is how we all our whether we admit it or not. I am totally against many things. And where it comes to those unable to give consent that is a totally unacceptable situation of course.

What I was trying to get people to understand is that no matter our personal views, we do not have the right to belittle and hurt those who have a different view of things. In the casual banter forum you can expect more sarcasm, teasing and button pushing. But for most of our fellow kinksters, this is the only way to seek understanding and support for something they feel they need in their lives. As fellow members of an alternative lifestyle, empathy for their needs and not their kinks is an important thing to develope. Otherwise, community activism is hypocritical. If we want the vanilla world to accept us, we should start by accepting our fellow kinksters.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 9:53:59 PM

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So are you open minded or not?

If you open your mind too wide, your brains might fall out.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 11:07:14 PM

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Sends all you "brain falling out" worriers brain bondage ties... it might be a bit hard to fall out if it's still attached to your spinal column.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/5/2004 10:00:26 PM

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I am very opening minded and I have grown over the years more but I have been attacked myself. Being on the net is too easy to hide behind an icon or a made up name in order to attack others for their beliefs and viewpoints. I do feel there is a time you need to stand and defend self for your ideas but there are too many of those who like to force their ideas on some one else. I also think we do not show respect to each other either as a Dominate or sub/slave. We are in these groups so we can learn and grow from each other ideas also in hopes to find our true Dom/Domme or sub/slave. I have learn allot but this got me to venture out into the real world and seek out those who are true to the lifestyle. We need stop treating the internet at the real world or the lifestyle. The real world lifestyle are munches, play parties, sloshes, and event. We need to realize there are real people behind icons and screen names. Remember we need to treat each the way we would like to be treated ourselves.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/5/2004 10:44:20 PM

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1) I like at least the idea of participating in the kink myself. Needs no elaboration.

2) It's not my kink, but I see no harm in it if other people like it.

3) It's not my kink, and I think it's unsafe, not very sane, or not truly consensual. Lack of competent consent I find totally intolerable. I cannot accept a practice which has a reasonable chance of causing debility or death, even if it's completely nonviolent.

To which I would add: Or which involves the nonconsent of others reguardless of whether the participants think it's "harmless".

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even if I don't think anyone will "give a shit", I respond. Maybe just maybe someone scrolling through the threads will read it and say "I didn't know that". So even if I know I am going to get a huge response of near flames, I post it. I would rather walk a mile on a potholed road to help someone than drive forever on a smooth hiway ignoring the people at risk along the way.

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And just because I belong to this "lifestyle" does not mean that I have to be accepting of everything that goes on in it.

Thank you to all 3 of you and to the others who posted similar responses here, this thread made me cry when I read it because I have recently lost my best friend due to my sticking to my beliefs which run parallel to those which you three in particular have stated so eloquently.

Whilst the pain of the loss is still something which I feel every moment of every day, it is a small comfort to know that I am not alone in feeling the way I do about the reasons why I spoke up.

Thank you.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/6/2004 8:06:04 PM

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I think open minded is a generally relative term. What is openminded to one person isnt really openminded to others. What is acceptable to one person may not be acceptable to another. In my mind as long as it doesnt hurt me or those I care about then go ahead its your kink revel in it.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/7/2004 7:40:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: PranksterBitch

Ok pervs .. let's put it on the table. This site has the same issues as b.com. We are an alternative lifestyle. Alternative .. different .. unconventional .. and that should cause a fair amount of empathy to develope concerning the judging of others.

I honestly don't give a shit what people say about me, but I've seen plenty of others truly hurt and abused just because their views are not the norm. Ehem ... there is no normal in this lifestyle .. so what gives? Are you open minded or do you have issues?

I have a few. I don't like dominants who have to flaunt their power or abuse submissives to get their ego stroked. I cannot stand those without a sense of humor. But for the most part, peoples kinks are peoples kinks and it's all good as long as no one is hurt.

So are you open minded or not?

I used to think i was open minded but i learned as i came into the lifestyle and started learning i wasn't as opened minded as i thought. At first i was always Oh My Gosh - WOW - How could they? But now i feel W/we all have O/our kinks, likes and dislikes but my likes are no stranger then anyone else's. I do however have issues but i don't think it is because i am not open minded. i hate trolls, form e-mails, someone who don't read my little short profile before writing to me *sighs* No way W/we could not have issues but i see being open minded meaning something different. i am open to a lot of things... I even believe the troll i blew off this morning will eventually find a sub who falls in love with Him for God only knows what reasons but His and her lives not mine!! There really isn't much in the lifestyle that i can say I will NEVER do, there is several i do not want to do now but as i grow more in the lifestyle i can see me wanting and craving more - needing to go further ...

Guess i am open minded but with issues - was that an option?

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/7/2004 8:03:02 PM

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Am I open minded? I like to think I am, but I have some issues. My gay and lesbian friends tell me that I am straight, but not narrow.
I really don't have an issue with whatever someone wants to do or try, just don't get any on me!

Children always understand. They have open minds. They have built-in shit detectors."
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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/8/2004 12:34:20 AM

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I just assume I have issues. Some folks claim I'm the most open-minded person they know. Others call me an arrogant SOB. I consider both claims to be truth, inasmuch as both claims are essentially subjective. I try to mitigate my attitude by owning up to it as nothing more than my opinion. That's managed to keep me out of a lot of flame wars over the years. I have a lot more attitude where occultism and philosophy are concerned than I do as a practicing perv. I have a ton of attitude as a gamer, but that's just par for the course. Every hard-core gamer has issues, but the three primary communities are so insular that most folks take their cliquish bigotry as "self evident fact" and never actually come fact to face with their issues.

Some of my issues:

I never trust someone, especially a sub, who insists on referring to themselves in the third person. I consider it disingenuous and indicitive that they do not respect me enough to tell me their honest opinion.

I have learned to fear and loathe "jock" types. Tall, blonde, popular, involved in sports, and usually swarming in packs. Nasty mean aggressive brutish small-minded louts who drink too much and are way too fond of inflicting pain and misery on any outsiders they meet. I profile these people the way some folks profile blacks or latinos. I have never been traumatised by a person with dark skin. I have been traumatised by way too many "beautiful people".

I refuse to dignify a person who plays video games with the title "gamer". I refuse to call any of these games "role playing games". I can never figure out where the actual role playing is.

I consider the enochian magic practiced by the OTO and their relatives to be essentially flawed. I have been known to get into a lot of verbal fights over this subject.

I have similar issues about wicca, especially gardnerian wicca. I consider it to be a fine and workable system of occult philosophy, but I inevitably come across someone who insists that it represents an ancient and unbroken mystical tradition stretching back to the dawn of time. Invariably I wind up getting pissy, and frequently get booted from the discussion group.

Open minded? Me? On further reflection, hell no. I'm still one of the most open minded people I know. What's the old aphorism? The first key to wisdom is knowing how much you have left to learn?

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/8/2004 1:42:13 AM

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I don't consider myself open minded, as i am very conscious of my own limitations.... I have very strong opinions, some of them irrationally stubborn, though i do always strive to make sure i am informed on multiple and varied perspectives.

For example, it may be very nice that people are finding inspiration and consolation from very far removed interpretations of certain texts and traditions from Our Common Cultural Heritage. I am genuinely glad that things very near and dear to me appeal to a broader audience, in so many sifferent ways. But on a personal level, i just can't stand "new age" orientalism. <shudder>

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/8/2004 1:53:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: PranksterBitch

Ok pervs .. let's put it on the table. This site has the same issues as b.com. We are an alternative lifestyle. Alternative .. different .. unconventional .. and that should cause a fair amount of empathy to develope concerning the judging of others.

I honestly don't give a shit what people say about me, but I've seen plenty of others truly hurt and abused just because their views are not the norm. Ehem ... there is no normal in this lifestyle .. so what gives? Are you open minded or do you have issues?

I have a few. I don't like dominants who have to flaunt their power or abuse submissives to get their ego stroked. I cannot stand those without a sense of humor. But for the most part, peoples kinks are peoples kinks and it's all good as long as no one is hurt.

So are you open minded or not?

i, for one, am probably one of the most open-minded people around. But i sincerely believe that one has to absolutely have a sense of humor in order to get along with people -- especially here. IMO, too many take themselves much too seriously. Maybe they're all recovering from hangovers, i donno. Say the wrong word and they're all over you like a cheap suit. Life is too short for that nonsense.

i hear more and more complaints from both men and women who have had bad experiences from contacts, both here and in other places, so they tend to take it out on those who they barely know.

i have tried to be as polite as i can, and i don't tend to judge people on the basis of one or two posts, because you cannot possibly get to know someone -- anyone -- from a series of verbal rants.

People, all people, save those psychopaths who will never integrate successfully into society, are pretty good when you manage to engage them in a conversation when they are in a good mood. Otherwise, look out!

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/8/2004 2:22:03 AM

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Open Minded? Wow ... thats a throw it out there question.

If someone is happy, relieved, fulfilled and satisfied... but its something that isnt in my limits & will not affect me or anyone else that doesnt wish to be involved - Then I would say, let them get on with it, but I dont have to do it.

If someone is happy, relieved, fulfilled and satisfied at someone elses expense in a non-consensual manner, then thats something I have to think deeply about and respond to accordingly.

What people do to themselves or allow to be done to them is there own business.
What people do to others without permission, to another, is irresponsible.

(IMO)

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/8/2004 5:05:41 AM

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I am pretty much right there with NoCal. One of the things that attracted me to this lifestyle is the attitude of acceptance. However, there are things I just won't do. Breath Play/Asphyxia... not going to happen with me. Too Scary. I guess I'd have to say as long as people aren't trying to force their likes/dislikes on me, I'm ok with them having their own fun.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/8/2004 9:40:57 AM

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I'm open minded to anyone who agrees with me and have no sense of humor.

"I make you laugh?" "Am I a clown?" "What - Am I here to amuse you?" "What the Fuck is so funny!"

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/8/2004 10:28:42 AM

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I'm with jenn on this one. I am pretty open-minded with a twist. I have a couple stubborn ideals but I try not to push them on others. To each his own. Sometimes I will ask questions, however, because I am still learning all the aspects of this lifestyle. It's an ongoing process. If someone brings an issue up, I always try to see all sides of it before I comment. Sometimes I disagree, but I never get testy about it.

ann

PS: I am curious about what happened to your friend, snowleopard, if it is not too painful to tell us.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/8/2004 1:12:38 PM

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But on a personal level, i just can't stand "new age" orientalism. <shudder>

Awwww... You mean you can't just accept it as a new opportunity for personal growth? (j/k)

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/13/2004 1:18:15 PM

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I would have to say that I am open minded but my issues are constantly being challenged which is making me even MORE open minded.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/14/2004 9:42:58 AM

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I'm open minded to anyone who agrees with me and have no sense of humor.

"I make you laugh?" "Am I a clown?" "What - Am I here to amuse you?" "What the Fuck is so funny!"

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/14/2004 11:50:44 AM

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Destiny,

Thanks for noticing! I resemble that remark.

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