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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/14/2004 2:17:37 PM

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Let me see now, I do not care what other people think of me - that is a confidence thing, and it comes out of running four businesses and a variety of organisations, one takes decisions for good or bad, and someone somewhere will hate your guts. So what?

I do not care what I wear, as long as it is comfortable and I can get into and out of it quickly - and there is plenty of room for my leg bag - and I do not have to spend 2 hours doing up buttons, when I could have been chairing a meeting.

I am completely open about who,what, where, Chris Green is, on the internet, in my family, to friends and acquaintances and in business.

I do not care what someone else gets up to, or down to, or in to, as long as it is not illegal, and they respect my interests in the same fashion as I respect theirs.

A long time ago, my mother said, "Don't rubbish something because you don't like the sound of it, go and try it, and if you don't like it, then you have a right to say so, but you don't have the right to rubbish someone else for liking it."

The modern equivalent of that is, "Don't knock it until you've tried it."

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/15/2004 6:15:15 PM

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Oh, what a question? Well, in may case, i am open to experimentation in most all phases of BDSM & D/s. Having said that, i DO have my own favorites, but then no subbie can or should expect to be catered-to, unless they are paying for the privilege. i KNOW i would draw the line at playing with those under the age of consent, having any kind of sexual contact with animals, or having any kind of contact with those infected by a life-threatening disease.

But, to return to the original question, my willingness to participate in certain areas of BDSM would really depend upon the person who i was attempting to please. OK, so...the quote, "attempting to please," indicates that there is play that i often am not turned on by, but would participate in under certain circumstances. These circumstances have very much to do with who i am involved with at the time.

In my opinion, when we decide to play, or involve ourselves with a particular individual, we might go that extra mile to satisfy them, even though it might not be our "thing." i think that is what love and caring is all about, which is the willingness to go where he or She would like to go.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/15/2004 10:21:58 PM

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hey Prankster,
I agree there is plenty of judging sometimes...
I have some personal conservative views, but as for accepting others' views, am very open -minded; indeed it's ALL good as long as no one is getting hurt (without their consent), and no one underage/therefore unable to give consent is involved.
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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/20/2004 3:48:28 PM

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Am I open minded? hmm.. in a lot of ways I am. I may not like your religion, sexual practice, or politics, but they are yours and really have nothing to do with me. Are there things I stand firm on just being wrong? Absolutely. Anything that takes away someone else right to be happy and free. I mean things like child abuse and forceing your believes and feelings on someone else. For the most part, if it makes you happy and your aren't harming anyone else (who doesn't want it) be my guest. Oddly just two days ago I saw a post on here that got me all pissed. Someone was looking for a bdsm friendly doctor because she was a breeding slave and pregnant and planning to be so again shortly after having that one. It took me a while to figure out why I was upset about it. Did I care that she wanted or was alowing herself to be used like that? not really. Was I upset because she was taking lightly something I desperately want? (Trying to have a child myself and it isn't highly likely) possably. But in the end what bothered me was the child. What was to happen it it? It had no choice in this. Was it to be kept? As what. Was it to be sold?
SO, open minded? yes and no. One thing I know. I may hate that someone would burn the flag, but I will defend that persons right to do so.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/20/2004 5:02:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: srahfox
Am I open minded? hmm.. in a lot of ways I am. I may not like your religion, sexual practice, or politics, but they are yours and really have nothing to do with me. Are there things I stand firm on just being wrong? Absolutely. Anything that takes away someone else right to be happy and free. I mean things like child abuse and forceing your believes and feelings on someone else. For the most part, if it makes you happy and your aren't harming anyone else (who doesn't want it) be my guest. Oddly just two days ago I saw a post on here that got me all pissed. Someone was looking for a bdsm friendly doctor because she was a breeding slave and pregnant and planning to be so again shortly after having that one. It took me a while to figure out why I was upset about it. Did I care that she wanted or was alowing herself to be used like that? not really. Was I upset because she was taking lightly something I desperately want? (Trying to have a child myself and it isn't highly likely) possably. But in the end what bothered me was the child. What was to happen it it? It had no choice in this. Was it to be kept? As what. Was it to be sold?
SO, open minded? yes and no. One thing I know. I may hate that someone would burn the flag, but I will defend that persons right to do so.

Very close to my own beliefs. I'd like to think I'm open minded unless something is being done that is non-consentual, and hurts someone. For example, my objection to the breeding slave business is that it is non-consentual to the baby.

If what you're doing is consentual, fine by me. In fact most of the time I've found I'm kind of interested, if not a willing participant. But if you're hurting someone against their will, I don't see that as an area to be open minded at all. I see that as an area where one ought to stand up and do or say something.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/20/2004 5:35:53 PM

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I agree that people should do what makes them happy, as long as it is consensual and not hurting anyone against their will. I do a lot of volunteer work with abused and neglected kids, and am sometimes of the opinion that adults who should definitely know better (unless they were raised on another planet maybe) do things with their kids around they should not, have abusive partners around their kids, sexually abusive folks around their kids that abuse the kids, the parent acts like they don't know what's going on when they do know, etc. etc. It can affect kids forever, and they have no choice in the matter. If they run away, they could fare the same or worse. Foster care in my state is a nightmare, too (but it's getting better, supposedly).

I know I think most people here have good judgment about that stuff (at least most of the posts I've read) - hope so anyway. Except, I agree the one about Breeding slaves, for the same reasons, it is non-consensual, and I'd give odds the "Owners" are selling those babies on a black market, and I really wish there was some way to stop that whole practice. So I guess when it comes to children I can get very judgmental about other folks' behavior. Otherwise, if it's consensual, it's none of my business, and I've learned a lot reading about things I didn't know about before these past few months, most of which has been enlightening to me.

Some things I think other people do are weird, (like Vapirism) but maybe if I tried it I'd love it. There are some things I will probably never try, though (and that's one of them, yes). I list those things as hard limits. Since I am a "newbie", it's possible even one or two of my hard limits could change over time, but not most of them, probably. - susannah

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/20/2004 8:36:58 PM

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Saddly I was abused, and while I truely don't think my mom knew about it at the time, once she moved she ended up with men who were almost as bad, if in different ways. So I guess for me that will always be a closed minded part of myself. But come ON we are talking about children here. People who depend on their parents for everything.
I believe the things I do, that make me happy are just fine. And I believe that the things other people do to make themselves happy is fine to. Just don't involve children. Accually I guess I would be okay if that woman truely did just want to be pregnant all the time. But there is really no way around the fact that that would be something forced on the children.
Opps, sorry I got a little preachy there. I glad other people agree. At least with what I said before if not what I rambled on about now. Thanks

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/21/2004 7:32:24 PM

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I often find myself "defending" other people's rights to be diffrent, to experience the extremes. I also ask people of the lifestyle why this group of alternate lifestyle people would seperate and judge and fight each other... we are tearing ourselves apart, and sooner or later the leagle groups will win if this keeps up. While there were/are areas of the lifestyle I had chosen or do choose not to participate in.... I fully respect each person's right to do so. Do certian personalitiy types irk me? well, yes... but that is not a matter of being open-minded. Do I remember seeing my first cross-dresser? yes, and what a dear person I found him to be. Would I shun someone who was into beastiality? No more than I would shun someone for simply saying they were a submissive. My motto has always been... so long as it doesn't harm me, enjoy yourself. I feel there is so much to learn and experience from other people. So many of the things on my first checklist that were HECK NO's then.... have later been seen on my Favorite's list. Where would I be if I had not been open minded? I guess that is a question for us all.... Where would we be if we had not the slightest but of open-mindedness? We would be vanilla.
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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 10/22/2004 12:23:28 PM

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For example, my objection to the breeding slave business is that it is non-consentual to the baby.

As I pointed out int he other thread, ALL babies are born non-consentually. There is not a baby that has ever been born that has had any say into whether or not it was conceived.

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But in the end what bothered me was the child. What was to happen it it? It had no choice in this. Was it to be kept? As what. Was it to be sold?

What about any baby born? Are its parents going to love it? will it be allowed to grow up in a loving, caring, nurturing environment? or will its parents abuse it, or force it into some activity to vicariously experience something they wanted to do in their own childhood but were not allowed/able to? (i.e. beauty pageants, sports, whatever).

are you (generic you) as bothered by and object as much to babies born to drug addicts? (and therefore themselves addicted to drugs) - or to babies born to welfare mothers just so she can get a bigger check, even though she cannot properly care for the kids she already has?

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Except, I agree the one about Breeding slaves, for the same reasons, it is non-consensual, and I'd give odds the "Owners" are selling those babies on a black market, and I really wish there was some way to stop that whole practice.

How can anyone be more sure that the 'breeder slave' will be more of an unfit parent than any other person in the world who is involved in the conception of a child? maybe the baby of that breeder slave will have the most loving and nurturing environment to grow up as, and will be allowed to grow into whatever/whoever they want to be - who can say before the fact? As for the selling on the black market, it goes on all the time - and not so 'black' a market as all that - babies being sold for adoption to U.S. couples openly and aboveboard - does that make their birth mother a 'breeder'?

Yes, there are things which should not be done around or involving children, but not just in the lifestyle - and while I realise that this is a lifestyle board and therefore most of the discussion will revolve around lifestyle topics and issues, this (babies and children) is one that I feel has so much larger a scope - and thus is why I felt compelled to respond here as I have.

Just my (probably not so well said) tuppence.

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