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RE: question for male doms - 12/15/2009 9:26:17 AM   
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I doubt if it's qualifications. It's more following up what interests you. Sometimes you want to know how a particular group thinks about something. That's what I got from what bibiswitch said. Nothing more, nothing less, than she was wondering how male dominants responded to a particular porn situation. Why is it wrong for her to want to know how someone with a particular and specific sexual orientation feels about a porn situation?

Imagine if she were asking this question toward gay men, wanting to know what the got off on? Would you think she was insulting the entire non-gay population, or insinuating that we didn't think they were qualified to answer the question? She's asking about feelings, not about fact. That takes this conversation well out of the realm of "qualifications." And I say she has every right to want answers from the people she is interested in hearing answers from, whatever type of question it is.

Asking in "Ask a Master" should have been enough. Bibiswitch just hasn't learned yet that no matter where you ask something or what you ask, the female subs are all going to yammer out an answer...and when the answers are totally inappropriate becuase you were not asking them, you just have to learn to ignore them--or else put the most obnoxious offenders on ignore. They'll even answer questions like,

"Do your balls itch?"

"Well, I don't have balls and I love my sexy pussy, but yes the inner labia do indeed itch upon occasion. Thank you for asking!"

Do you wear sideburns?

"Well, no, teehee, I have soft silky feminine skin that cannot grow sideburns, but I do have the back of my neck and head clipped very close."

"How does it feel in your cock when you are penetrating a vagina?"

"Well, if I were to wear a strap-on (which I don't because I'm a sweet little subbie girl!), I doubt I'd feel anything because it is made of latex. But maybe the bumping would rub my clit a bit."

Sheesh on a Fucking Leash! How utterly ridiculous do the responses have to become before people will stop taking umbrage because someone wants to know something from a particular group of people, something that only that group can answer, because only that group has the attitude or orientation or gender appropriate to the question?


Excellent post.

(Next part not directed at you CaringandReal)
I'll add..Who the fuck gives a rats ass whether a person has an active profile or not..It doesn't make the comments any less valid..

What is that anyway? Some petty way to belittle a person or push them into action because YOU want something to happen?

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RE: question for male doms - 12/15/2009 2:56:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Icarys
Excellent post.

(Next part not directed at you CaringandReal)
I'll add..Who the fuck gives a rats ass whether a person has an active profile or not..It doesn't make the comments any less valid..

What is that anyway? Some petty way to belittle a person or push them into action because YOU want something to happen?


Of course, didn't you hear? If you don't have a profile on an entirely other site, you can't possibly be expecting to be taken seriously here. Apparently, not desiring scores of e-mails from a bunch of losers makes your opinion invalid.


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RE: question for male doms - 12/15/2009 2:58:54 PM   
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And by Femdom, I'm presuming that you mean a hetero a F/m scene.  Whilst *it* does little for me, I do enjoy a F/f femdom scene very much.


What he said.



What they said.


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RE: question for male doms - 12/15/2009 7:25:08 PM   
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My question in reply to this would be, why would only that group know?  Would you suppose that others may not have second hand knowledge on the matter?  By that line of thinking, I should never answer questions based on discussions I've had with either My husband or My sub. 


In court, that would called heresay and is often inadmissible.

Perhaps the OP wants information straight from the source and not via second-hand information. *My* question is - "Why does it matter who the OP is asking?" The OP is asking the group they want to ask. Who cares why they are being specific in their request? It is their question, after all. Not ours

Yes, but we're not in court.  Also, since My other half most likely wouldn't be inclined to answer such a question, second hand information is better than none.  If the real intent of the OP is to gather information, wouldn't those able to provide it more likely be accepted with gratitude?



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RE: question for male doms - 12/15/2009 9:01:33 PM   
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Yes, but we're not in court. 


Please refer to what I said right after the court comment.

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Perhaps the OP wants information straight from the source and not via second-hand information.


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Also, since My other half most likely wouldn't be inclined to answer such a question, second hand information is better than none. 


That depends on the person asking the question. For you, perhaps. For her, perhaps not.

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If the real intent of the OP is to gather information, wouldn't those able to provide it more likely be accepted with gratitude?


Conversely, couldn't those not in the target demographic not simply accept that they are not the target demographic with a little more grace?


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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 3:41:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		At the same time, if the OP is just looking for information, isn't the best approach to that to get all of the information that you can?

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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 4:18:50 AM   
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At the same time, if the OP is just looking for information, isn't the best approach to that to get all of the information that you can?


Again, it depends on the source of information. Either way, it's their question, not ours. If they only want certain information, why do we spend time arguing over whether or not other information should be given or considered?


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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 4:21:04 AM   
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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 4:22:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with LadyPact much more often than with Icarys, but this time I believe Icarys and CaringAndReal have a valid point.

LadyPact, in your own case, you seldom post "off the top of your head" unless you explicitly include wording in the post along the lines of "not intended to be serious, sue me."  (This is why your posts are popular -- not because you are "cool," but because you have knowledge and wisdom to impart, and you don't just blather.)  However, a lot of posters -- and I agree they tend to be sub females -- post on threads because they like to post.


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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 5:03:26 AM   
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Oddly enough, I don't consider this arguing.  If you really want to see Me argue, trust Me.  It gets a lot worse than Me laughing from the message boards.  


It was a generic term, don't let it distract your focus from the overall message.


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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 8:02:34 AM   
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I agree with LadyPact much more often than with Icarys


Now that's funny.

I can see it has pained you a little to agree with me..You've made a step here..Be proud.


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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 8:07:20 AM   
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It always cracks me up how defensive and annoyed women get when you bring up the name of a shrink who's been dead for so long.


It cracks me up how defensive some men get when intelligent women speak/write what they think.

I guess we are both laughing.


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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 8:39:44 AM   
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I agree with LadyPact much more often than with Icarys, but this time I believe Icarys and CaringAndReal have a valid point.

LadyPact, in your own case, you seldom post "off the top of your head" unless you explicitly include wording in the post along the lines of "not intended to be serious, sue me."  (This is why your posts are popular -- not because you are "cool," but because you have knowledge and wisdom to impart, and you don't just blather.)  However, a lot of posters -- and I agree they tend to be sub females -- post on threads because they like to post.


Hey there RedMagic1, i'm a female s-type that likes to post....Is that bad?


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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 9:47:29 AM   
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Hey there RedMagic1, i'm a female s-type that likes to post....Is that bad?

I don't think I've ever seen you post with ill intent, so I would never describe your posts as "bad."  And I wasn't trying to point to any one person.  Unfortunately, though, this back-and-forth you and I are having proves the original point.  Your question to me has nothing to do with the question asked by the OP.  Why ask it to me?  Why bother to ask it at all?  Obviously you can if you want, and you're not breaking any site rule to do so.  But you're doing it because you enjoy seeing what you type, not because it fits into the broad question of the thread. 

A femdom or femsub posting, "9 out of 10 masters I've talked to say this," is different.  You were asking about my opinion of your behavior, and not making any contribution to the content of the thread, even though you probably know the habits of the dominant man in your life well enough to answer the question of the OP.  You chose to ignore the OP, and ask only about something directly related to you.


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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 11:05:42 AM   
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Hey there RedMagic1, i'm a female s-type that likes to post....Is that bad?

I don't think I've ever seen you post with ill intent, so I would never describe your posts as "bad."  And I wasn't trying to point to any one person.  Unfortunately, though, this back-and-forth you and I are having proves the original point.  Your question to me has nothing to do with the question asked by the OP.  Why ask it to me?  Why bother to ask it at all?  Obviously you can if you want, and you're not breaking any site rule to do so.  But you're doing it because you enjoy seeing what you type, not because it fits into the broad question of the thread. 

A femdom or femsub posting, "9 out of 10 masters I've talked to say this," is different.  You were asking about my opinion of your behavior, and not making any contribution to the content of the thread, even though you probably know the habits of the dominant man in your life well enough to answer the question of the OP.  You chose to ignore the OP, and ask only about something directly related to you.


Just so i understand you... are you saying that posts made on a thread, that are off topic to the OP are made.... 

" But you're doing it because you enjoy seeing what you type, not because it fits into the broad question of the thread."

Because *people* just want to see what they type....or are you saying thats why you think* i * post replies that are off topic?


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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 12:06:25 PM   
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Freud said


I stopped reading after this; I'd advise you to put down the Freud and read someone more modern. Someone whose theories haven't been discredited.

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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 1:18:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		It actually wasn't the original post that influenced My first comment.  It was the follow up in post five that brought My attention to the thread in the first place.  It had very little to do with Freud himself, but rather the theory that masochistic males do not exist.  Quite frankly, I honestly believe that in many cases, female Dominants are more in the position to confirm that they do, as many of us are well aware of their tendencies.  I find the comment to be as baseless in fact as the ever popular 'all women secretly desire to submit' that is very common in a particular subset of certain posters here.

Personally, I don't believe that sadism, masochism, Dominance, or submission hinge on gender at all.  I tend to think that traits in individuals have very little to do with genitalia.  Reversing the original question, if I should happen to watch a male topping a female, My reaction is a strong urge to want to beat My own boy.  This has nothing to do with the gender of the parties that I'm watching.  It has to do with the fact that sadism turns Me on.  That isn't singularly true of only sadism, by the way.  I have certain interests in various types of scenes that give Me the urge to want to be the top in the scenario.  The same holds true for clip, as it inspires him to want to be the receiver in a pain related or other type of scene.

My other half watching the same scene wouldn't get the same reaction.  Again, I don't think this has anything to do with gender, but because he is not a sadist anywhere near the degree that I am.  To him, topping is fun, but it isn't especially a turn on.  Over the years, through our discussions on the matter and assessing his reactions, the scenes that honestly turn him on the most are the ones that I conduct.  That has quite a bit to do with the fact that he knows My sadism is turning Me on and who doesn't want their wife in a sexually aroused state where she wants to screw the brains out of her husband?

As for all of the back and forth about who should have answered the thread and who shouldn't, I think most of it is a lot of crap.  Nobody here gets to decide who adds to intelligent conversation.  Not even the OP.  There isn't a person on this thread who hasn't wandered over to the Mistress section from time to time AND been welcomed for their comments and contributions.  Perhaps that tells more about who might be threatened from comments from a different gender.


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RE: question for male doms - 12/16/2009 2:21:51 PM   
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It cracks me up how defensive some men get when intelligent women speak/write what they think.

I guess we are both laughing.


I don't see how. I don't see any defensive men in this thread. Only women who lash out at a shrink who's long dead because they are offended at his conclusions.


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RE: question for male doms - 12/17/2009 6:08:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		thanks for your answers, you who answered properly (since my request was not respected)

indeed, I am interested in male dom answers, because I want to know something about them I don't want to read others hypothesizing etc, just that (I don't know how you came up with such conspiracy theories or whatever)
indeed, second hand information is inferior to first hand information (if you quote exactly the answer to the exact question from a male dom, then I don't think it is called second hand information, it is exactly quoted first hand information)
indeed, what does the profile has to do with? it is just a person asking, it does not matter at all who asks, you could see it posted in "yahoo answers"

so, if you place yourself in the position of the male sub of a femdom scene, tied up, teased, etc, you wouldn't become aroused? from all the tease, the aggression, the passion, the rush etc? which emotions would be present? aggression? laugh? bored? feared? anxious? if you eventually became aroused, would that mean that you liked it or it was a body reaction?

I am asking because if it is about been excited and rushed and teased etc, they would you... submit?
given the fact that sadism and masochism often coexists in different proportions in people as sadomasochism

oh, and by the way, since Freud was so wrong, who you would recommend?

thanks

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RE: question for male doms - 12/17/2009 6:24:58 AM   
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oh, and by the way, since Freud was so wrong, whom you would recommend?




FIXED.  Turn the question around.  I would recommend HIM.  Not: I would recommend HE.

How about you start a new thread since that question is OFF-TOPIC?

But, short answer: There are quite a few..... and that's why God gave us Google.  Go do your own research, please.  To get you started, here's my choice:

Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy (REBT) is both a psychotherapeutic system of theory and practices and a school of thought established by Albert Ellis.

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