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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 12:06:43 PM   
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Get out from behind your computer and go meet real people.


So Steven, will we have You to blame when he is unleashed on the world????


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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 12:13:52 PM   
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I think he’s an atheist. Why not, he’s too smart not to understand evolution and physics and astronomy. And he doesn’t go to church.. I can’t blame him though with all the problems he has to deal with, it makes sense that he doesn’t have the time to go to church.



It may be just window dressing, but he has been a prominent church attendee.  I recall shortly after he moved in to the White House, there was an article on how the local churches were competing to attract the Obamas to their congregations.

Just for the record, I am Jewish and attend services regularly.  And I understand evolution (and believe in it), astronomy, and physics pretty damn well.  As a matter of fact, I took three semesters of physics in college.  I resent your implication that only Neanderthal knuckle draggers are religious.

Get out from behind your computer and go meet real people.


It's definitely a cheap shot, Steven.
That said, aren't Jewish people a lot more inclined to keep their religious beliefs separate from everything else they know than most Christian denominations? I know that Judaism is very well represented in genetics and paleontology, which are the two branches of biology that a lot of the Christian flavours aren't having at all. Hell, Crick was Jewish, wasn't he?


Jewishness encompasses two things - religion and heritage.  There are those who are Jewish by religion only, those who are Jewish by heritage but not by religion, and those who are both.  (I am both.) For example, Richard Feynman, the Nobel winning physicist, was Jewish by heritage but considered himself to be atheistic.  So many "Jews" do not believe.

Christians are defined only by their beliefs.


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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 12:15:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I stand corrected, Steven. I beg your pardon: I was forgetting that it was a cultural heritage as well as a religion.

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 12:17:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Moonhead, that sounds almost like an apology.  I'm not offended and hope my post didn't give you that impression.

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 12:26:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't worry: it wasn't an apology, and I didn't think I'd offended you. I was just a bit embarrassed at making a mistake like that. It's definitely something I should have remembered instead of needing to be told...

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 12:33:08 PM   
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, It's a duck!!!


Not necessarily, it might be Elton john.






Edited to add: DAMN IT!

Oh well, you've all seen him in that duck costume. I know you have.

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 12:40:00 PM   
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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 1:48:17 PM   
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...perhaps this video will convince you he is a fraud pretending to be a Christian for political gain.



I believe that in Islam the penalty for joining any other religion is death. I am not an expert on the intricacies of the various denominations of Islam, but I don't believe that an imam or a mullah can absolve a true believer of that restriction.

The idea that Barack Obama is a 'secret' muslim who has been pretending to be a Christian and attending services and participating in Christian sacraments for years as a 'dodge' is pretty weak.

If you don't like the guy, you don't like the guy. If you think he's a bad President, just say he's a bad President. You don't need to scotch tape together all sorts of conspiracy theories to complain about him.

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 1:49:47 PM   
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...perhaps this video will convince you he is a fraud pretending to be a Christian for political gain.



I believe that in Islam the penalty for joining any other religion is death. I am not an expert on the intricacies of the various denominations of Islam, but I don't believe that an imam or a mullah can absolve a true believer of that restriction.

You're correct. That's fatwah time.

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 3:17:00 PM   
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You're correct. That's fatwah time.



Sooner or later, it always turns into a fatwah girl thread.

Never fails.

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 3:20:07 PM   
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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 3:22:28 PM   
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You're correct. That's fatwah time.



Sooner or later, it always turns into a fatwah girl thread.

Never fails.

Ron

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Kinky.

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 3:45:21 PM   
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Sooner or later, it always turns into a fatwah girl thread.

Never fails.

Ron


I wonder if Muslim guys drive around with bumper stickers that say "No Fatwa Chicks"

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 4:53:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		About time there was another fatwa thread. It's been too long.

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/14/2009 11:16:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just what difference would his religion make? Christian, Wiccan, Muslim, or Flying Spaghetti Monster...it neither here nor there.

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/15/2009 5:21:15 AM   
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It's been too long.


From fatwa jokes to talking and me and my *ahem* qualities?


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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/15/2009 5:56:14 AM   
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Here's the thing.

I don't give a fuck even if he were.


Here's the thing.

Then you don't give a fuck about the U.S. Constitution.

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/15/2009 5:58:51 AM   
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, It's a duck!!! If it isn't enough for you that Obama attended a racist church who hates the very capitalistic system that created a world superpower that has defended the world from tyranny for over 60 years, then perhaps this video will convince you he is a fraud pretending to be a Christian for political gain. This site also has a very interesting article on Obama's citizenship status.

http://babelishere.webs.com
http://babelishere.webs.com/awards.html



You are either racist of stupid, probably both.


Look in a mirror and repeat that. 

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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/15/2009 6:16:36 AM   
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If he were, it might matter, depending on his beliefs. Its entirely subjective, meaning that such things are up to each eligible United States citizen who chooses to vote whether it matters or not.

Votes are cast for varying reasons but many vote for that leader who best reflects their own personal views.


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Just what difference would his religion make? Christian, Wiccan, Muslim, or Flying Spaghetti Monster...it neither here nor there.


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RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim - 12/15/2009 6:17:40 AM   
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I think he’s an atheist. Why not, he’s too smart not to understand evolution and physics and astronomy. And he doesn’t go to church.. I can’t blame him though with all the problems he has to deal with, it makes sense that he doesn’t have the time to go to church.



It may be just window dressing, but he has been a prominent church attendee.  I recall shortly after he moved in to the White House, there was an article on how the local churches were competing to attract the Obamas to their congregations.

Just for the record, I am Jewish and attend services regularly.  And I understand evolution (and believe in it), astronomy, and physics pretty damn well.  As a matter of fact, I took three semesters of physics in college.  I resent your implication that only Neanderthal knuckle draggers are religious.

Get out from behind your computer and go meet real people.



Just for the record, the Obamas have not been prominent church attendees since they moved into the White House.

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