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AquaticSub -> RE: Is it right for daughters (1/7/2010 3:40:22 PM)
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ORIGINAL: DommeMae
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
Please show where I even hinted they would grow up with major problems resulting in overhearing the scolding or to be menaces to society.
So why say, and I quote you: "it's unacceptable for children to hear regardless if it was brutal or not."
Why is it unacceptable?
Obviously, there is a negative consequence as a result in your mind.
It creates a negative atmsophere in the house. However that is a far cry from the words you attempted to put in my mouth.
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I feel your pessimistic slant on things is not good for a message board, either, just for the very reason it's unlikely we get both sides of the story.
Right because the other woman can magically sense where I stand on things and that is why she doesn't come to the board. Frankly, I'm not pessimistic in the slightest. However, again, you're new. You don't know me. I don't expect you to.
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So you went from calling my position "lofty" to you'll refrain from insulting my position. Good.
You took lofty as an insult. It wasn't meant as one, simply a way to express that your requirements to form an opinion are extremely strict and in my five years on the board, I have seen about three times when we got all the info you wanted. I apologize for the miscommunication.
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Good, I'm glad you agree it likely won't cause major problems. But again, and this is a technical point I've brought up repeatedly. How do you know for certain they haven't been taught what chores entail? Further, it's possible she teaches her kids to not depend on others for this, but rather, see it as a privilege and convenience.
"Men should work for the happiness of women." There is nothing inherently hateful or unhealthy about that from where I stand.
The OP said that chores do not "exist" for them. If they don't exist, they aren't being taught about them. I take the OP at his word. Again, if he comes back and provides further info, I'll change my mind. This is my opinion based on the information provided, it's not something I'm carving in stone.
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
I didn't say anyone was did I? (being forced to make a bet)
So why bring it up, if for nothing than a rhetorical comment devised to further substantiate your opinion.
Some of us don't use every phrase in a post prove their point. I don't feel a need to substantiate my opinion. It is what it is. You strongly disagree with it. So what?
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- Until we hear from the OP, all we can do is speculate the POSSIBILITIES.
We make our judgements based on what we consider to be most likely. If this offends you, you'll probably want to hide my posts as I do it frequently and you've yet to convince me to stop.
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- I don't defend anyone, I'm trying to get you to stop dismissing the possibilities which are out there.
You see me having an opinion as dimissing the possbilities when I have stated several times that I acknowledge they exist, I just don't consider them to be the most likely.
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- It's possible for him to eat out of his special plate on the table. We don't know until he specifies.
It's possible. Just about anything is possible. I'm just not willing to be CSI and dig up all the evidence when someone came to the forums and asked for advice.
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- It's possible she teaches them to not depend on others for this, but rather, see it as a privilege and convenience. It is possible.
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See above.
- I merely broached the possibility that it's possible there's more to the story and that the OP's very vague on several key statements.
You've also been insulting and condescending to the posters who disagree with you.
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- No, I wouldn't defend anyone until I had enough facts.
- He didn't give enough facts to make an assessment.
There will never be enough facts to make an assessment on the message boards by this standard because there is always the very real possiblity that the OP is lying.
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- Aside from broaching the possibility of additional explanations, exactly how am I defending her?
I don't believe I used the word defending. I said benfit of the doubt. I could be wrong - I invite you to show me if I am.
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- And they should do this by looking at all the facts, rather than existing preconceptions, bias, speculations and assumptions.
We'll never have all the facts because we aren't there. So then the OP, and those reading this post with similiar issues, would get nothing at all.
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- We still don't have any evidence they heard actual beatings. If they did, again I don't condone that.
- He said discipline. Discipline has many forms, from mild scolding to bodily harm. He needs to be more specific.
He did mention something about a baseball bat somewhere in this mess of a thread though I can't recall where. My opinion on discipline in front of children is unchanged regardless. We aren't required to agree.
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- And I've been saying 'we don't have the full story as to what she's doing, telling or teaching the kids. Though your crystal ball seems to know. By the way, the men should be harnessed for a woman's advancement is nothing new.
I appreciate the flattery that you think I can see more than I can. However, you continually miss my statements that I don't know, this is only what I deem most likely and if I am corrected by the OP, I will change my stance I don't have a crystal ball, I don't claim to know anything that isn't presented in the OP.
By the way, the idea that women should be harnessed for men's convience isn't a new idea either. [;)]
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- You also don't know if tis woman beat him within their ear shot. Until the OP gets more specific, your assumptions are just that - assumptions.
- We don't have enough facts from him to draw a conclusion. What was the plate called and where was it placed? What discipline did they hear? You don't-have these answers yet you already say she's damaging the kids. You need more facts.
I don't know anything. I only have what I, as I have a said a million times already, consider to be most likely. I'm not writing a police report, I don't require the full-run down to form an opinion.
You do, that's great. I'm serious. It takes all kinds to make the world go 'round, huh? This message board would be pretty boring if everyone posted in the same way.
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