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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 2:04:47 PM   
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Sophisticated or simple Well hmmmm that's a tough one.  I want sophisticated but someone who enjoys the simple pleasures of life.  Good wine, warm fire in the fireplace, good coffee, good cheese, good music, good art, quiet nights, good laughter.  Very simple but still sophisticated.
Mmmmmm...I'm on my way over...

So would you say that you are (~cough~) flirty, extroverted and agreeably silly? And does that mesh well with D-types you've been with?

I agree intelligence is a huge part of resourcefulness.

Also, you're a fracken cutie pants.

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 2:08:12 PM   
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Thank you, Lally. May I ask you, do you find you attract these qualities? Are there some you always attract or always find missing?

I agree with the affection, although I'm probably less adept. Some folks like cloying. Cloyers seem to find me. ~shudder~

I would have chosen intelligence over resourcefulness without hesitation until recently. With all the challenges lately, I've changed my mind.

Thanks for your time and thoughts

~subtee


my pleasure

i think that as i have evolved the people who approach me have changed too. they are much more relaxed, have been around the block a few times themselves and have worked out what works for them and that tends to be a more natural way of being that is more sustainable. the rituals and heavy protocol are fine of course but cannot be sustained all of the time, it just isnt practical. my prefferance is for something more relaxed and continual. i get very 'put off' with high protocol and then 'down time' - i prefer a more seemless approach and i seem to be attracting those types more now.

i have noticed that i get a few more bedroom kinksters than i used to who confuse my disinterest in protocol as a rejection of enslavement or submission, but i have to say the 'Master has seen you and is pleased. He permits you to send him one brief email as introduction' sort of bollox - i get very little of now. thank the goddess and all who sail in her!!

cloying i just cant hack.

i do seem to draw in guys who open up emotionally more. the stand offish types, to be honest i really dont bother to even respond to. sounds rude but if you do and say no thanks they usually come back and disagree with the no thanks.

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 2:09:21 PM   
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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 2:24:21 PM   
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cloying i just cant hack.
Right?! And it seems to me the cloyers are always lousy at picking up cues even though I'm cringing and shrinking away...

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i do seem to draw in guys who open up emotionally more. the stand offish types, to be honest i really dont bother to even respond to. sounds rude but if you do and say no thanks they usually come back and disagree with the no thanks.
I totally get this. They claim to want a response even if it's "no thank you," you give them a response and that makes you a fakebitchwhoreplayerwannabe

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 2:26:55 PM   
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There have been a few threads just now exploring personality traits and emotions that correlate. I'd like to investigate in another way, similar to "Would You Rather" in an either/or choice.

Please answer the following in terms of your partner/preferences or for yourself within the partnership (or future partnership), as applies to each set. Please say if it’s about you or your other.

If you feel your dynamic or lifestyle or identity (D/s, etc.) relates to your feelings, please share that, if you’d like; let’s talk about it. If instead you feel like it would be the same regardless of orientation/relationship, then go with that.

I’m going black and white here and asking for a choice so that there can be discussion. Many may choose “somewhere in the middle” but if you are asked to choose only from this or that, it may prove edifying.

They are not necessary antonyms of one another; feel free to change it up. Add some too.
Don’t answer any you don’t want to. Duh.

Reticent or chatty * He is reticent and so far, is pleased with my chattiness, especially in social situations, where he hangs back and observes and i am more inclined to interact and chat*

Micromanage or hands off *He is capable of pretty intense micromanagement, but likes that i dont seem to need it*

Zealous or wishy-washy * Together, we tend to rub eachothers sharp edges off in terms of what we believe too rigidly*

Too strict or too lax *He is very strict and enjoys watching me struggle with that*

Too bratty or too agreeable* ive been here long enough that everyone knows im kind of a sam, but hes under the impression that its just "spirit" and who am i to tell him thats not what it is?*

Introverted or extroverted*He is pretty introverted. And, yannow, im sorta not*

Spontaneous or scheduled*He is scheduled in day to day dealings but frighteningly spontaneous in more personal ones*

Flirty or shy*He doesnt flirt, but isnt shy....and doesnt seem concerned when my outgoing nature turns toward the flirty side...He knows who owns me*

Too moody or too chill*He is the single most even tempered person ive ever met. i, am....um...not chill*

Intelligent or resourceful*i would like to think that we are both of these things. He is definitely one to do the fixing when there is a problem, where i would be more inclined to wonder for a longer period of time about how to fix it best. But im not generally a damsel in distress....mostly*

Too competent or needy*He is almost too competent, and sometimes i have to ask if he really needs all this chaos in his life, or if he would be better off without it/me. He then just shrugs and says, what chaos?*

Ritualistic or blasé*He is very ritualistic in a lot of areas of his life. Very ordered, linear thinking....and i am the complete opposite.*

Too affectionate or too standoffish*Oddly enough, he is pretty affectionate. And ima big love bug*

Sophisticated or simple*He is very simple in taste, expectation, and judgement. If it pleases him, i know it because he clearly stated that it did. i know exactly where i stand at all times.* * And neither of us are all that sophisticated in other areas, food, drink, entertainment, hobbies, whatever...pretty simple, but happy.*

Too emotional or unsympathetic*He is not too emotional or too unsympathetic...He is slower to respond to an issue than i would be, were it up to me to respond. He thinks before he acts. He has great empathy for others and isnt afraid to show emotion, but he doesnt have the visible highs and lows i do emotionally*


If you'd like to just focus on one or some that's cool. Thanks!

~Subtee



In a lot of ways, we work. And in the areas we dont, we address them and he decides if any action needs to be taken to rectify that. There have been issues that i felt needed to be addressed or whatever, and he listened and decided against changing whatever it was....which is hard to accept at first, but i cant think of a situation or a problem that was significant that he didnt somehow fix.
Sometimes, i forget that he will not always agree with me, or allow something i want....or sometimes i forget where the line is and push a matter after its been decided...and he never hestitates to put his foot down...and once its down, manalive, its down. (generally so am i at that point....on the floor or up against the wall.)
But, for the most part, we have similar ideas about things, and i have never "forgotten" to defer....ive often been told no and not liked it.

Heres hoping i remain pleasing....you know how the things one likes about their partner is the thing they hate the most in the end.....*shiver*

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 2:27:11 PM   
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Yeah simple/affectionate.....down-to-earth....human......warm......bakes cakes...I dunno...what more do you want?



I wanted to know your tendencies (which is why the either/or) and your perspective of them as they relate to being a dominant...if they do. Like that.

People spend all kinds of time on here "pissing on each other"; I thought it might be cool if we tried to get to know each other too...along this pervert path.




A good idea well stated.

Well I suppose it's a matter of perspective and a matter of what really matters to each person.

Intelligence.....as defined in its usual sense.........is over-rated in my book....I find the most interesting conversations come straight from the heart rather than a second hand story from some scholar or another (who incidentally wrote from his/her experience of the world).

I find that a warm heart/kindness just really stands out for me.......for one I like to be on the receiving end of gifts.....more importantly I've equated a kind heart with being human (not necessarily true of course but you can pick and choose and your humans). I suppose there's an idealist in me that wants to believe (and probably does believe) that people are inherently co-operative and social animals.

Zealous or wishy-washy? Neither regardless of the question structure. Ditto for most of the others.

Introvert or extrovert.....introvert.......I'm not a big fan of too much noise......peace and calm fits quite nicely with me and it's quality that matters (including in conversation).

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 2:33:49 PM   
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Excellent post, perse! I LOL-ed, literally. Also, I'm glad for you. What a cool relationship and you know yourself and him so well. Good on ya!

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 2:39:15 PM   
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A good idea well stated.

Well I suppose it's a matter of perspective and a matter of what really matters to each person.

Intelligence.....as defined in its usual sense.........is over-rated in my book....I find the most interesting conversations come straight from the heart rather than a second hand story from some scholar or another (who incidentally wrote from his/her experience of the world).

I find that a warm heart/kindness just really stands out for me.......for one I like to be on the receiving end of gifts.....more importantly I've equated a kind heart with being human (not necessarily true of course but you can pick and choose and your humans). I suppose there's an idealist in me that wants to believe (and probably does believe) that people are inherently co-operative and social animals.

Zealous or wishy-washy? Neither regardless of the question structure. Ditto for most of the others.

Introvert or extrovert.....introvert.......I'm not a big fan of too much noise......peace and calm fits quite nicely with me and it's quality that matters (including in conversation).
See, you've surprised me some, here, and I dig it.

On intelligence: You've had plenty of book learnin yourself, right?

Do you believe most humans are kind hearted? Or have the capability? Or is it something you especially find and/or value in females and/or sub-types?

What kind of cakes?

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 2:59:22 PM   
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Reticent or chatty
In a partner, reticent. Although I would expect getting to a level of comfort meant my partner would be comfortably talkative.

Micromanage or hands off
I'd prefer the relationship be a micromanaged one.

Zealous or wishy-washy
In a partner, I'd prefer wishy-washy (which is just a bad-sounding way of saying open to being convinced, ideally with substance).

Too strict or too lax
I'd prefer being at a point where too lax can work just fine because of the fluidity of the relationship.

Too bratty or too agreeable
In a partner, too agreeable (is there a "too agreeable"? ).

Introverted or extroverted
In a partner, prefer introverted.

Spontaneous or scheduled
Spontaneous.

Flirty or shy
In a partner, shy. This is again an issue that would change within the relationship. I'd encourage and bolster flirtiness within the relationship, but a natural shyness is the better foundation to start from.

Too moody or too chill
Too chill.

Intelligent or resourceful
C: All of the Above? Being resourceful implies a certain degree of intelligence. Guess i'm confused about examples of where one might be one or the other.

Too competent or needy
(In a partner:) This is a bit of a red herring for me since I'm more concerned with the headspace of the partner. If the "too competent" is built in with the need to retain that competence in an active sort of way, then it's a problem. I'd lean towards too needy.

Ritualistic or blasé
Not sure about examples of this difference either.

Too affectionate or too standoffish
In a partner, too affectionate (and they'd have to push quite a bit to get "too" with me).

Sophisticated or simple

In a partner, sophisticated.

Too emotional or unsympathetic
Hmm...the downsides to both are not attractive. I'll go with too emotional, in a partner, as the lesser of two evils.



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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 3:20:41 PM   
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Reticent or chatty
In a partner, reticent. Although I would expect getting to a level of comfort meant my partner would be comfortably talkative.


May I ask you...what if she was always reticent? Like if you had to pull things out of her, so to speak, (so to speak). Stereotypically there is the motor-mouth female and the tuned out male...but I find that not to be the case as much in this "realm."

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Too bratty or too agreeable
In a partner, too agreeable (is there a "too agreeable"? ).
I think, yes, it's possible if one is asking for a genuine original opinion and gets sort of "whatever you want/think."

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Intelligent or resourceful
C: All of the Above? Being resourceful implies a certain degree of intelligence. Guess i'm confused about examples of where one might be one or the other.
I think I should have used "intellectual" instead of intelligent, although that doesn't really capture what I meant. Just as an example for me: I graduated college summa cum laude, honors, phi beta kappa, blah, blah, blah, not because of innate intelligence, but because of resourcefulness to figure out how to do, manage, write, produce.

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Ritualistic or blasé
Not sure about examples of this difference either.

I'm asking protocols and ritual structures in place, for example a nadu pose, or, meh...whatever the situation is when I get home is fine.

Thanks for your thoughts...and you made it look good.

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 3:44:34 PM   
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Reticent or chatty - Probably a little chatty in a partner, I tend to be quiet, so balance is needed.

Micromanage or hands off - Micromanagement - it's hot in some circumstances, and useful some of the time. I would hope it wouldn't be necessary 24/7 though, at least after the initial stages of a relationship.

Zealous or wishy-washy - Neither, but zealous if I had to pick. I like people who are open to new ideas, but if they decide something is wrong with the world, try to do something about it. Idealism of youth or some such nonsense probably.

Too strict or too lax - Too strict, but see answer on micromanagement.

Too bratty or too agreeable - Agreeable.

Introverted or extroverted - A bit extroverted, as I said above I am more introverted.

Spontaneous or scheduled - Spontaneous, or at least doesn't mind that I am. If xhe hated surprises I would have to supress that side of myself.

Flirty or shy - Flirty, I'm rubbish at making the first move. We'd never get anywhere if xhe was shy too.

Too moody or too chill - Too chill. I hate drama and scenes.

Intelligent or resourceful - Like other people have said, these traits would surely be a package deal.

Too competent or needy - Too competent.

Ritualistic or blasé - Probably leaning towards blasé, I like a relaxed atmosphere.

Too affectionate or too standoffish - Neither, but I guess too affectionate would be the lesser of two evils. Especially if xhe showed that affection in a Domly, smack on the arse, I'm going to fuck your brains out now kind of way. Not mooning around sending me flowers every other day, I got enough of that with 'nilla ex and it just got annoying.

Sophisticated or simple - Sophisticated.

Too emotional or unsympathetic - Can I have emotional, but doesn't want to talk about those emotions every 5 seconds? (Some of the time is good, obviously). And doesn't feel the need to tell me how much xhe feels so close to me, can tell me anything, we have a unique spiritual bond yada yada yada after 3 messages? Kay thanks...

If you'd like to just focus on one or some that's cool. Thanks!

~Subtee



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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 4:11:53 PM   
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May I ask you...what if she was always reticent? Like if you had to pull things out of her, so to speak, (so to speak). Stereotypically there is the motor-mouth female and the tuned out male...but I find that not to be the case as much in this "realm."

I think I'm relatively good at extracting things from the minds of partners and radar-ing whether they are refraining from sharing something, but I would surely aim for an environment where the openness to disclosure is there, even if she is still naturally reserved.

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ORIGINAL: subtee

I think, yes, it's possible if one is asking for a genuine original opinion and gets sort of "whatever you want/think."

Ah! But, then it's up to me to require a personally-derived answer of preference. At which point, if she is thoroughly agreeable, she'll obey. I just need to work her agreeable-ness to where I'm getting the information I want.

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ORIGINAL: subtee

I think I should have used "intellectual" instead of intelligent, although that doesn't really capture what I meant. Just as an example for me: I graduated college summa cum laude, honors, phi beta kappa, blah, blah, blah, not because of innate intelligence, but because of resourcefulness to figure out how to do, manage, write, produce.

I'm still over-analyzing, I think. Your ability to do those things is itself a facet of intelligence.

I suppose, though, I do naturally gravitate towards more intellectual types. I suppose I'd lean to that side if push came to shove.

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I'm asking protocols and ritual structures in place, for example a nadu pose, or, meh...whatever the situation is when I get home is fine.

Well, then that's more a question of self. Since we've already determined I prefer agreeable (which means she'd be going along with whatever I'd choose! ), I suppose...um...I dunno. I enjoy a degree of ritualism with certain things and have structured daily expectation in such ways, but there are other things I'm generally flexible about.

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Thanks for your thoughts...and you made it look good.



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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 4:16:12 PM   
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Hi afterforever! I just met a gent from Belfast (work related), and t'was a mighty craic!

Thanks for your responses. I can relate to a mooney ex. Bye!

So strict and micromanagement but without rituals? Does that keep you on your toes?

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 4:51:35 PM   
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Reticent or chatty- chatty. i can handle being reticent myself. *laugh* i do have periods though that fluctuate highly between the two however depending on the environment, the people i'm around, and what purpose i have with interacting with them.

Micromanage or hands off- hands off. i like freedom in thought, process, and production. there is a time and place for micromanagement; it just usually doesn't involve me. i tend to get stressed, aggravated, and just downright unbearable under the weight of micromanagment.

Zealous or wishy-washy- zealous. i find myself happier this way vs. wishywashy.

Too strict or too lax-i need a good balance in this arena. too strict and i'll get rebellious and bratty. too lax and its hard to keep on track.

Too bratty or too agreeable- although brattiness can bust out the domme in me, too agreeable makes me wish someone would grow a spine and brain capable of independent thought.

Introverted or extroverted- insert where appropriate. different times call for different measures.

Spontaneous or scheduled- without a doubt, spontananiety. plans. like glass, are made to be broken.

Flirty or shy- flirty for both myself and whoever i may be with. shyness frustrates me, and is a huge turnoff.

Too moody or too chill- mmm....this ones split down the middle. too much of either one makes me miserable; as far as a partner goes, i honestly don't know which is worse. too moody and they can't be dealt with, too chill and nothing ever gets done.

Intelligent or resourceful -INTELLIGENT....hands down, no contest. if you cannot engage me mentally, i have no use for you physically.

Too competent or needy- too needy is a dealbreaker.

Ritualistic or blasé: ritualistic by far. it's one of my favorite facets of piercings and other body mods.

Too affectionate or too standoffish - between the two, i have to pick too affectionate, although too much and i'd feel smothered (granted..with the right person, "too" much is objective). standoffishness leaves me wanting more and ultimately i will lose any emotional/mental/physcial connection, grow bored, and move on.

Sophisticated or simple -i live rather simply however i have a very sosphiticated eye when it comes to art. i enjoy the intricaties and details of all things actually

Too emotional or unsympathetic - i have no need for someone who cries over everything or that cannot handle at least a small amount of disappointment. life is full of it. unsympathetic, however, is a total turnoff for me. i like for my partners to have a heart and the ability to be emphathetic as well. life throws all us curveballs, sometimes smacking us in the face with them. there's not a person alive that's never had that feeling so why pretend otherwise.

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 5:07:47 PM   
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Hi ambiguitydefined,

Among others, two things you've mentioned are intriguing to me:

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Ritualistic or blasé: ritualistic by far. it's one of my favorite facets of piercings and other body mods.


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Sophisticated or simple -i live rather simply however i have a very sosphiticated eye when it comes to art. i enjoy the intricaties and details of all things actually


Would you like to expound on these?

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 5:20:36 PM   
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Sophisticated or simple Well hmmmm that's a tough one.  I want sophisticated but someone who enjoys the simple pleasures of life.  Good wine, warm fire in the fireplace, good coffee, good cheese, good music, good art, quiet nights, good laughter.  Very simple but still sophisticated.
Mmmmmm...I'm on my way over...

So would you say that you are (~cough~) flirty, extroverted and agreeably silly? And does that mesh well with D-types you've been with?

I agree intelligence is a huge part of resourcefulness.

Also, you're a fracken cutie pants.


awwwwwwwww thanks darling!


There are people who would say that!

I'll light the fire, open a bottle of red to breathe, and find a nice jazz station, just for you, you juicy peach.

As for the D-types I've been involved with... sometimes it work,s sometimes it doesn't.  The ones who are uber serious have not worked out well because I'm such a goofball and a silly gal.  Luckily, I've learned my lesson and now realize that I don't actually have to compromise on that part.  I know when to be serious, when to be sophisticated, when to be loving and gentle, when to be sensual and sexy.  When those things aren't in play, I'm generally pretty silly - but it is how I keep myself happy.  When I meet the one who loves my silly side as well as all the other parts of me, I do believe I will have found the one.  *It may be sooner than we think.  I've been sitting in my uncle's magic chair and asking for what I want.  I believe... wait... yes, did you feel that?  The world is definitely shaking, mountains are moving!  Stay tuned....


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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 5:23:53 PM   
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*He is almost too competent, and sometimes i have to ask if he really needs all this chaos in his life, or if he would be better off without it/me. He then just shrugs and says, what chaos?*

YES!


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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 5:24:27 PM   
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Your happiness is contagious

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 6:50:22 PM   
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Good grief this is interesting.

Is the author dead? David Lodge or Jacques Derrida or?

And how does sublimating affect your Dominance?

And how does the manifestation happen artistically?

Good grief, I dig this

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RE: Cause We've Got Personality - 12/18/2009 7:12:05 PM   
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None of the above? I don't want someone who is the opposite of me nor an exact duplicate.

I wanted, and have, someone compatible.

Neither reticent nor chatty but talks when he has something to say or needs the contact.

Neither micromanage or hands off. Control what I can't, including teaching me so I can, but not interfering needlessly with stuff I am competent at. Too many cooks spoil the broth.

Neither zealous nor wishy washy. Instead of rigid, reasonable meaning he bends if there's a good reason to which for me includes my emotional state. I need his criteria to include my emotions.

Same with too strict or too lax, neither is workable for me. Extremes and I are not compatible. Stronger where I'm weaker, and no need to control stuff I already have working well.

Really, same with all of these extremes. They wouldn't work for me, nor for him.

I'm an introvert, sometimes I need to be brought out but I also need alone time, quiet time to recharge my batteries. If he can't understand there's a middle boundary then it's a no go.

Spontaneous works only if you've already reviewed the schedule and know you aren't going to cause more stress by adding something extra to an already overworked day.

I just needed someone sensible who I resonate with. Luckily, I have him.

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Cynical and proud of it!


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