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Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 3:33:38 PM

SirKenin

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My family doctor prescribed Me Percosets for the pain in My back from that fall I mentioned. They work pretty good if I take two or three of them, but there was something else I noticed. I find that I am chipper and motivated to get things done. I also find that I am more talkative. Is this a common thing with this drug, or a side effect unique to Me? Whatever it is, it has motivated Me to get at the horrible job of unpacking.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 3:39:17 PM

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My family doctor prescribed Me Percosets for the pain in My back from that fall I mentioned. They work pretty good if I take two or three of them, but there was something else I noticed. I find that I am chipper and motivated to get things done. I also find that I am more talkative. Is this a common thing with this drug, or a side effect unique to Me? Whatever it is, it has motivated Me to get at the horrible job of unpacking.

They not only are a painkiller but they also, for some people, are a disinhibitor. This can lead to talking more and not doing things you really would like to put off. You should also monitor more carefully since they may have weakened the normal social inhibitions that keep you from telling the checkout girl at the supermarket what nice boobies she has.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 3:49:52 PM

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But they WERE nice b@@bies. You should have seen them..

Thanks for the info. Considering what they appear to be doing to Me, it makes sense.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 4:02:37 PM

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Ok, SK
I am not a doctor but I play one on TV, eat your percosets and ask the doctor if he has an additional drug that will make it impossible for you to say boobie.

I'm tellin' ya, pal; that girls tits were the size of your head....
Unlike men, they find that in their self image and wish you wouldn't say anything, men on the other hand would find it enamoring to find that they sport the Columns of the Roman Senate.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 7:20:54 PM

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I was on percocets for awhile after recent back surgery. I'm on the small side, but found one did nothing for me, two would make me loopy-headed and help me sleep. Then I built up a tolerance for them and two now does nothing. I seem to have a metabolism where I either need a much bigger dose than the average person for it to work, or else it has the opposite effect on me. For example, DAYquil knocks me out, although they're for daytime use, but Nyquil, that is supposed to let you "sleep like a baby" through the night has no effect on me. Many cold remedies that are supposed to cause drowsiness hype me up.

It sounds like percocet is having that "opposite effect" on you, perhaps? It puts most people I know into a near-coma.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 7:39:07 PM

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Never come accross that drug under that name, but generally if your in a mind to tell a girl what great boobs she has, why not go all the way and ask her to kneel so you can collar her as a sex slave?

Jees mate you'll get a few slapped faces and even banned from the odd place but I'll bet you will end up with more slaves you know what to do with....

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 7:44:55 PM

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Never come accross that drug under that name, but generally if your in a mind to tell a girl what great boobs she has, why not go all the way and ask her to kneel so you can collar her as a sex slave?

Jees mate you'll get a few slapped faces and even banned from the odd place but I'll bet you will end up with more slaves you know what to do with....

Its all fun and games untill her 6'4" boyfriend shows up trying to pit his foot up where it wouldnt fit :)

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 7:48:44 PM

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Well, IB is from australia sure enough, but not a pygmy. Still, this site for allotta people is built on the premise that you say on your knees bitch, and if you say it to a hundred thou, you will get slapped but one might. And that is all you wanted anyway was the one.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 7:58:35 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin

My family doctor prescribed Me Percosets for the pain in My back from that fall I mentioned. They work pretty good if I take two or three of them, but there was something else I noticed. I find that I am chipper and motivated to get things done. I also find that I am more talkative. Is this a common thing with this drug, or a side effect unique to Me? Whatever it is, it has motivated Me to get at the horrible job of unpacking.

SirKenin,

I went through the perc and the darv... ended up on Oxicotin, morphine, and now on methadone for pain management. Most think METHADONE????? Drug addiction.. they use that to wing herion addicts. Though this is true, it's called off labling perscribing.

The more you are on a drug and build up a tolerance, the more you're going to need. My Grandmother said more Doctors have made people more addicted to drugs than any pusher on street corner. So you need to consider the fact that you went through the first reactions that perc do.. helped with pain, a little drowsy, but all in all better. Now taking them because they're still some on bottle will cause your reverse reaction. Because of the tolerance you've built up.

You stated you do good if you take 2 or 3? more thn 1 or 2 is over dosing. Not deadly to some.. but slowly.. yes.. it's over does what it's suppose to. (No didn't say ODing... lol).... I noticed Doctors write scipts for perc and darv all the same mostly. And they're suppose to know ones blood pressure and weight when giving this script. Some DO NEED more than others. And this makes them take more than what was written in scipt. If you're finding yourself wired.. ready to takle all you need to... take this as a sign you're high. And it's gonna be a bummer when you go to take them for pain and they do not work like they're suppose to. And so there for you find yourself taking even more.

People have tolerance for different things as stated by others in this thread. Hell they say do not give kids coffee, cokes, chocolated before bed, they won't sleep.... I give all that to mine to get them to sleep.... LOL

Just like my methadone... I take 30 mgs... 3 times a day... one would think i would sleep more... in the begining I did... 23 hours a day.. more if i could get by with it.. lol... now I take mine.. and know i'm not going to bed for 2-3 hours after taking it.. I get wired... and have to wait for that to by pass so I can get some sleep.

I do hope you'll be careful (I'm sure you will) and seek advice from (ugh) a doctor.. and see if perhaps you need something else.. stronger.. or lighter... darvs might work better for you on pain and not wire you out.. where the perc is doing this.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 8:13:52 PM

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6 foot tall male coolies I'll make him kneel by walking up to him and head butting him in the ball cause I'm only 5 foot and then I'll wrap a collar about that neck of his..

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 8:49:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

My family doctor prescribed Me Percosets for the pain in My back from that fall I mentioned. They work pretty good if I take two or three of them, but there was something else I noticed. I find that I am chipper and motivated to get things done. I also find that I am more talkative. Is this a common thing with this drug, or a side effect unique to Me? Whatever it is, it has motivated Me to get at the horrible job of unpacking.

It wasn't but a couple of weeks ago that I borrowed a few from a friend after an injury I suffered while doing squats. However....they didn't make talkative or give me extra energy; they knocked my ass out and made me sleep for a lot longer than I wanted to. Don't take the Caddy out.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/17/2006 10:34:32 PM

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Yeah, I have not been driving while I have been on them and I only take them when needed (but two at a time now. He said half, but that does not work for Me it seems. Four did not even cut it when we were moving, and I was soooo sick). I never figured the metabolism thing into the picture. I wonder if he did??

The way they make Me feel, I could see Myself getting in trouble with some girl's boyfriend or something (not to mention My wife. heh. That would suck). Fortunately My back seems to be almost better, as it only bothers Me with lifting and bending over to empty our moving boxes.

Whatever feeling it is, at least I am getting stuff done around the house. I guess that can not be all bad. I just need to be able to get back to work now and I will be all set.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/18/2006 12:00:38 AM

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SirKenin:

Something to keep in mind... Percocet is 5 mg of oxycodone and 325 mg of Acetomenophen < tylenol> in each tablet. If you are taking more than 10 tablet/day you are taking too much Tylenol, which can be toxic to the liver. If you are requiring this much Percocet to acheive pain control, you may want to discuss with your MD about changing you to plain oxycodone OR oxycontin, which is the time released form of oxycodone.

Trusub makes very good points about tolerance to a drug. For acute pain it is not a problem as you will only be taking the drug short term. But if you have chronic pain and are going to be taking it long term, you will develope tolerance. Which means that after a time the dose that was controlling your pain will not be as effective and will need to be increased. This is a normal happening, not a sign of addiction in the person with chronic pain. There is no max dose of opioids < ceiling effect >. So you can be increased as your tolerance dictates.

I am not sure if your back injury is recent or chronic, but if it is recent and of an acute nature vs a chronic nature, you may also want to consider speaking to your MD about Lidoderm patches. These are large patches that you adhere to the painful area. Lidoderm is the actual name for what we know as novacaine. It is a wondeful way to acheive pain control for musculoskelatal injuries. You apply the patch < self adhering> and keep it on for 12 hours and off for 12 hours. I have used it for lumbar sacral sprains and bursitis in my hip with remarkable effect.

I would not reccoment darvon or darvocet for anything other than mild pain, while it is classified as a narcotic it has the equianalgesic effect of 2 tylenol. This is clearly noted in any PDR or drug handbook.

A major side effect of all opiods is constipation. You more likely than not will become constipated. Taking 2 Senakot will off set this, and depending on your body you may need to take 2 twice a day.

As to your question about having an energy boost with Percocet, no that is not the normal effect. It is generally sedating. But as your body gets used to the drug that side effect goes away. What you are experiencing now would be called a paradoxical efect of the drug. Nothing to worry about, that also will go away as your body builds tolerance.

I am a hospice nurse with several certificates in pain management and opioid therapy. Please feel free to e mail me if you have any questions.

IronBear: You may be familiar with Percocet by one of it's other names : Endocet, Roxicet, Tylox. I am positive it is widely used in Austrailia.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/18/2006 12:28:22 AM

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I had major back problems herniated disks, I finally was able to get Spinal epidural surgery where they inject a steriod by your spine where the troubled disk is, worked for me haven't been bothered by my back since, although it doesn't work for all you may want to talk to your Doc about it.

Another thing I wanted to say because I did go through the drug therapy first (as most insurance companies want the patient to take that route first) what I think happens at least it did for me, when I started taking the Percocets it was like I wasn't in major pain anymore and yes it made me want to get up and do things that I haven't been able to do.
So I think that may be a cause of your wanting to get up, get packing done, move around where before you were inhibited by the pain, hence the burst of energy.
I learned the hard way though that you have to try and resist over-doing it and cause your back more stress.

Yes these drugs can inhibit more than just your pain, you can act on thses drugs just like you would alcohol another central nervous system depressant. Also these drugs can become addicting in a blink of an eye so be careful or they'll bite you in the ass.

Good luck to your recovery..

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/18/2006 12:46:10 AM

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I really don't want to go off topic here..... BUT... If I could just address the issue of addiction that has been brought up by several posters. And I am addressing it because it is a very misunderstood. Addiction is NOT a common or normal occurance with the proper use of opioids in the treatment of pain. Addiction is a property of the person, not the medication. Addiction occurs most often when some one misuses an opiod or misuses it to acheive the euphoric side effect.

Taken from National Institute of Drug Abuse:

Opioids
Opioids are commonly prescribed because of their effective analgesic, or pain relieving, properties. Studies have shown that properly managed medical use of opioid analgesic compounds is safe and rarely causes addiction. Taken exactly as prescribed, opioids can be used to manage pain effectively.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/Painmed.html

http://www.nida.nih.gov/ResearchReports/Prescription/prescription6.html#Patients

My apologies for going off topic, but fear of addiction is one of the major reasons why MDs do not treat pain adequately and that patients hesitate taking prescribed medicines and suffer inadequate pain control.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/18/2006 2:42:39 AM

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it is sort of happening to me too.

i had a tooth go bad under a cap so i did not notice it till it was abcessed.

Having just got it removed and the infection that was being dumped into my body discontinued is like a new breath on life for me. i am running around like a mad man because i feel so energetic.

pain can be the same way when it is releived. it takes a lot of energy to maintain pain and can really drain a person. so that and the drug itself might be contributing to this. it never had that effect on me however.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/18/2006 3:38:48 AM

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It is a pretty common side effect--its called a "false sense of euphoria"--which is why they are very addicting---be very careful--especially during times of stress, you can get dependent on that feeling--take care.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/18/2006 4:16:11 AM

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NMot sure what is available SK, but here for controlling excessive pain due ti osteoarthritis in my left knee, I am prescribed 20mg of Kapromol (Morphine Sulphate} which is a slow release capsual) ona daily basis as required. At times I've gone to 80 mg on a really bad day but my usual intake is 40 mg a month so I can sleep.

because many medicos are so paranoid, in order to get an increase of perscxriptions or strength I need to attend a pain Clinic who have at least the attitude that it is better to treat addiction than have a patiend living in excessive pain where suicide becomes an option. The fault is in our Federal and State Governments who have stated by inference that they are happy to breach International Laws and let people who do not have Private Health insurance live in pain and suffer medical hardships in the hope that these people who are not conributing to the Natiuonal Tax Income die as quickly as possible...Crazy? yes it is but it is a fact which is well known in Political Circles here..... Anyway mate you could talk to your medico about vthe Morphine Sulphate as it doesn't cure the pain but allows you to rest and deal with it...

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/18/2006 6:13:49 AM

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Whatever feeling it is, at least I am getting stuff done around the house. I guess that can not be all bad. I just need to be able to get back to work now and I will be all set.

Point for consideration: Percocet is a pain killer not a muscle relaxant. If you continue to work, as it sounds as if you are doing, you are likely to replicate the insult that caused the problem in the first place, but this time, the pills will block the warning pain. This could lead to permanent damage.

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RE: Anybody else have this reaction? - 3/18/2006 6:20:07 AM

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I really don't want to go off topic here..... BUT... If I could just address the issue of addiction that has been brought up by several posters. And I am addressing it because it is a very misunderstood. Addiction is NOT a common or normal occurance with the proper use of opioids in the treatment of pain. Addiction is a property of the person, not the medication. Addiction occurs most often when some one misuses an opiod or misuses it to acheive the euphoric side effect.

Excellent point. Most people don't know heroin was produced commercially because testing showed it didn't have addictive properties. At that time, the importance of random assignment wasn't appreciated and the test group consisted of research scientists, a personality type that isn't particularly susceptible the the lure of the addictive properties. It was only when the stuff was released to general distribution did its true nature become apparent.

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