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MadameMarque -> RE: insecurity and fear (12/30/2009 6:35:10 PM)
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At the expense of feeding the trolls...
First, to dispense with the slobbering sexism so smarmily catered to in the Original Post, this lady answers it entirely, and more succinctly and with more civility than I think I would have:
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ORIGINAL: CherokeeRose2
If that were true, wouldn't that be the same for ANY dominant, both male AND female?
To the original post...
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ORIGINAL: bibiswitch
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maybe because the obedience of a male is the precondition that she will feel unique, supreme, etc? isn't this pathetic if it happens?
Here, let me clean that up for you..."...maybe because the obedience of another is the condition necessary for the dominant to feel unique, supreme, etc? Isn't this pathetic if it happens?"
Speaking for myself, I absolutely desire that overt form of love, adoration, affection, companionship, intimacy, and devotion, that comes from someone openly devoted to me, someone who desires to be my thrall. Yes, of course, I love that it's blatant and extreme and passionate. And no, I don't think it's pathetic. I like it, works for me. Fortunately for me, there are others who feel this way, on the other side of the coin ~ who desire someone who will accept that kind of love from them.
That kind of love could come from someone who is not submissive, but just loves me like crazy. If I find someone and it's like that, I would accept that.
But I do also really love the relationship of my being dominant to someone who is submissive to me personally (and I'm hoping for two or more partners, so hopefully at least one will be submissive or a slave). It so works for me. And I'm a sadist, who appreciates some masochism, so although D/s doesn't always equal SM, I certainly can enjoy that aspect of having a submissive or slave, too.
The original poster's questions seem to assume (well, a lot of really silly crap) that dominants are looking for someone weak to lord it over, and that submissives are indiscriminantly submissive to everyone, and that they're submissive because they're inferior to others, unable to maintain a dominant position among others.
Yet, at the same time, you say that the dominant seeks to feel unique and supreme. How could I feel unique, if someone was equally submissive to me and to everyone else? How could I feel "supreme" or special, if I didn't respect the person(s) whose love, or devotion, or obedience were given to me?
In any case, it's the classic logical supposition of someone who hasn't been around, in real life, yet, that submissives are weak and inferior people. I've said it before - the samurai were submissive to their rulers, and wolves are submissive to their alpha. There are those who are submissive only to chosen ones in their private lives, and who dominate in every other aspect of their lives. Masochistic submissives take being tortured as entertainment! Any way you look at it, in real life, being submissive in your private life does not equal weakness or inferiority.
Those are my thoughts on the matter.
"If his love is to be called perverse, then let it be so, for maybe love is too great to be normal, too intense to be sane."
- from a commentary on the film, Gekko no Sasayaki aka Moonlight Whispers, by myownpteidaho, http://imdb.com/title/tt0208178/usercomments
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