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Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 12:44:27 PM   
SomethingElse9


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There is something on my mind and I need advice from people who might understand, better than anyone I know at least. I am seeing someone who is into BDSM and treats me as a submissive. I am into this too and don't mind being submissive with him, first time I have been submissive actually. On this site he claims to be a submissive though and is actively seeking dom. couples, and women. I am confused and hurt because it seems like he doesn't want to be with me. It seems like an excuse to continue looking for more than what I give him. He says that BDSM is just one aspect of our relationship and we have much more than this that makes us "us". I agree with that because I am pretty sure none of his friends/family know about this side of us. I am feeling very upset because we have this conversation a lot when I find out he has been out hunting for women to see or service, etc. I am done with the conversations because it is the same result. I want to know what someone would do if they were in my shoes. I feel so damned if I do right now because I am in love with him even though I am sure he does not love me. I just feel like a stupid fool right now, truly living up to be a sad submissive. The other thing is that I know I am fat, not attractive and etc. I have a good job and educated and I am very good in bed. I guess this is even making my self esteem be as low as it gets when I see the women he is pursuing. (skinny and pretty) He says that he loves to normally be dom. with the woman he is with but wants to be submissive from time to time. I don't see how that can be truthful unless he lies on his own profile, why not just put down that you are a switch? I guess that is the point I am getting at, not to mention that I am usually dom. in relationships, so why not use me because I am really good at being dom.? Thanks in advance for the advice!

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 12:52:39 PM   
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Have you talked to him about this and told him how you feel?

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 1:13:07 PM   
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I'll be happy to answer your question if you will answer one for Me first.

If there wasn't kink involved, would you still be willing to be an active participant in this situation?


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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 1:13:09 PM   
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I don't see how that can be truthful unless he lies on his own profile, why not just put down that you are a switch? I guess that is the point I am getting at, not to mention that I am usually dom. in relationships, so why not use me because I am really good at being dom.?


Say what? He is not who he is, and you are not who you are? I think you are both ready for some counseling, and not together.

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 1:14:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SomethingElse9

There is something on my mind and I need advice from people who might understand, better than anyone I know at least. I am seeing someone who is into BDSM and treats me as a submissive. I am into this too and don't mind being submissive with him, first time I have been submissive actually. On this site he claims to be a submissive though and is actively seeking dom. couples, and women. I am confused and hurt because it seems like he doesn't want to be with me. It to continue looking for more thseems like an excuse an what I give him. He says that BDSM is just one aspect of our relationship and we have much more than this that makes us "us". I agree with that because I am pretty sure none of his friends/family know about this side of us. I am feeling very upset because we have this conversation a lot when I find out he has been out hunting for women to see or service, etc. I am done with the conversations because it is the same result. I want to know what someone would do if they were in my shoes. I feel so damned if I do right now because I am in love with him even though I am sure he does not love me. I just feel like a stupid fool right now, truly living up to be a sad submissive. The other thing is that I know I am fat, not attractive and etc. I have a good job and educated and I am very good in bed. I guess this is even making my self esteem be as low as it gets when I see the women he is pursuing. (skinny and pretty) He says that he loves to normally be dom. with the woman he is with but wants to be submissive from time to time. I don't see how that can be truthful unless he lies on his own profile, why not just put down that you are a switch? I guess that is the point I am getting at, not to mention that I am usually dom. in relationships, so why not use me because I am really good at being dom.? Thanks in advance for the advice!



Quite honestly, it sounds as though he is using you and you are letting him. Yep, your self esteem is in the shitter. A good way to keep it there is to let this guy keep walking all over your feelings. Do you really love him? Or is it really more a matter of he comes around and with such low self esteem you are grateful for whatever attention you can get?

You have a good job and an education, so get yourself into some therapy to help with your self esteem issues. I don't know if you are truly fat and unattractive or not, but it really doesn't matter. Everyone has something to offer, and even you admit you are a "good" domme and "good" in bed. If you can find those qualities in yourself as being positive, you can find others. I'm sure you have heard that no one will love you if you don't love yourself, and it is very true.

Now of course, I'm not saying this is an easy task. No one would expect you to wake up one day and suddenly be overflowing with self esteem and self assurance. But I am going to tell you that getting rid of this guy is a good start. Why? Because you will be actively telling yourself you deserve better.

Stop thinking about dating or sex until you have learned to appreciate that you are a good person deserving of someone worth YOUR time, not some loser who thinks you are a good "stop over" until something better comes along. You aren't happy with your weight, and that is something you can change. Join weight watchers or something and start working on it. Those groups are also good at helping you learn to accept who you are.

Dump the jerk and start working towards loving you. Good luck.


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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 1:24:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'll be happy to answer your question if you will answer one for Me first.

If there wasn't kink involved, would you still be willing to be an active participant in this situation?



Again I find myself agreeing with LadyPact. This isn't really a lifestyle question it's a relationship question, and from everything you have put in your post, you should not be in this relationship, not just because of what he is or isn't doing, not just because you guys have communication problems, but mostly because, you have some self-esteem issues. You can't be in a loving relationship if you don't love yourself. That's the bottom line. Get out and get working on you.

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 1:25:13 PM   
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It sounds like he may be a switch, which means he has the capacity to dominate and submit, all wrapped up in one beautiful package. For some people who identify this way, they can go with one or the other and may not need both simultaneously, but for some there is a need to have both. From what I've read in your post the later seems to be the case with your partner. This doesn't necessarily mean that you're not doing it for him, or that he doesn't love you. People are multi-faceted beings and it can be hard to feel completely fulfilled 100% by one partner. The question is, are you able to handle that? There are plenty of people in the world that can and do feel totally content with one partner,your partner may not be one of them. From my point of view the best chance of making the relationship work is to decide that his need to submit is something you can deal with. This in itself leaves with several options. You could offer to explore a dynamic where you switch roles on occasion, so that he can get his both his needs to dominate and submit met with out having to look out side the relationship. Another option here would be to ask him to seek out a professional domme, so that he could have that need filled with out the attachment of an involved relationship. Thirdly, you could change the way you look at his seeking another woman and do what ever you need to do within your self to be ok with that. The key here is for you to initiate the change you need to be happy. This may include one of several of the options above, or to move on. If he hasn't made the effort to change his behavior at this point in time it's likely that he won't ever. Its up to you to make the change happen on your part, or find a situation that's more conducive to your needs and wants.

Good luck,

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 1:26:36 PM   
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Now of course, I'm not saying this is an easy task. No one would expect you to wake up one day and suddenly be overflowing with self esteem and self assurance. But I am going to tell you that getting rid of this guy is a good start. Why? Because you will be actively telling yourself you deserve better.

Stop thinking about dating or sex until you have learned to appreciate that you are a good person deserving of someone worth YOUR time, not some loser who thinks you are a good "stop over" until something better comes along. You aren't happy with your weight, and that is something you can change. Join weight watchers or something and start working on it. Those groups are also good at helping you learn to accept who you are.

Dump the jerk and start working towards loving you. Good luck.




LafayetteLady speaks with great wisdom. There are plenty of submissive boys available to you. Let your true nature guide you. Be a Domme if that is who you are. As someone else has said on these boards, "Don't allow someone to be a priority if you are just an option." That is a road paved with pain. Good luck.

Vincent

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 2:12:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: trealeon


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'll be happy to answer your question if you will answer one for Me first.

If there wasn't kink involved, would you still be willing to be an active participant in this situation?



Again I find myself agreeing with LadyPact. This isn't really a lifestyle question it's a relationship question, and from everything you have put in your post, you should not be in this relationship, not just because of what he is or isn't doing, not just because you guys have communication problems, but mostly because, you have some self-esteem issues. You can't be in a loving relationship if you don't love yourself. That's the bottom line. Get out and get working on you.



i might be very wrong - it happens alot but i see LP's question differently.

i think she's asking the OP, - if there was no kink involved would the OP stick around.

the relationship appears to satisfy something in the OP, so what is it. is it the kink, is it because she loves the guy and cant leave, is it because he has tappd into her submissive side when noone else has.

just my thought on it.

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 2:23:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2


quote:

ORIGINAL: trealeon


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'll be happy to answer your question if you will answer one for Me first.

If there wasn't kink involved, would you still be willing to be an active participant in this situation?



Again I find myself agreeing with LadyPact. This isn't really a lifestyle question it's a relationship question, and from everything you have put in your post, you should not be in this relationship, not just because of what he is or isn't doing, not just because you guys have communication problems, but mostly because, you have some self-esteem issues. You can't be in a loving relationship if you don't love yourself. That's the bottom line. Get out and get working on you.



i might be very wrong - it happens alot but i see LP's question differently.

i think she's asking the OP, - if there was no kink involved would the OP stick around.

the relationship appears to satisfy something in the OP, so what is it. is it the kink, is it because she loves the guy and cant leave, is it because he has tappd into her submissive side when noone else has.

just my thought on it.


I'm thinking we're making the same interpretation, because I'm seeing it as "if this wasn't a 'kink' relationship, would you put up with this" but maybe there is a subtle difference that we're seeing that text (without inflection) is not catching. Either way, good points all around.

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 2:29:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: trealeon


quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2


quote:

ORIGINAL: trealeon


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'll be happy to answer your question if you will answer one for Me first.

If there wasn't kink involved, would you still be willing to be an active participant in this situation?



Again I find myself agreeing with LadyPact. This isn't really a lifestyle question it's a relationship question, and from everything you have put in your post, you should not be in this relationship, not just because of what he is or isn't doing, not just because you guys have communication problems, but mostly because, you have some self-esteem issues. You can't be in a loving relationship if you don't love yourself. That's the bottom line. Get out and get working on you.



i might be very wrong - it happens alot but i see LP's question differently.

i think she's asking the OP, - if there was no kink involved would the OP stick around.

the relationship appears to satisfy something in the OP, so what is it. is it the kink, is it because she loves the guy and cant leave, is it because he has tappd into her submissive side when noone else has.

just my thought on it.


I'm thinking we're making the same interpretation, because I'm seeing it as "if this wasn't a 'kink' relationship, would you put up with this" but maybe there is a subtle difference that we're seeing that text (without inflection) is not catching. Either way, good points all around.





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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 5:37:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SomethingElse9

There is something on my mind and I need advice from people who might understand, better than anyone I know at least. I am seeing someone who is into BDSM and treats me as a submissive. I am into this too and don't mind being submissive with him, first time I have been submissive actually. On this site he claims to be a submissive though and is actively seeking dom. couples, and women. I am confused and hurt because it seems like he doesn't want to be with me. It seems like an excuse to continue looking for more than what I give him. He says that BDSM is just one aspect of our relationship and we have much more than this that makes us "us". I agree with that because I am pretty sure none of his friends/family know about this side of us. I am feeling very upset because we have this conversation a lot when I find out he has been out hunting for women to see or service, etc. I am done with the conversations because it is the same result. I want to know what someone would do if they were in my shoes. I feel so damned if I do right now because I am in love with him even though I am sure he does not love me. I just feel like a stupid fool right now, truly living up to be a sad submissive. The other thing is that I know I am fat, not attractive and etc. I have a good job and educated and I am very good in bed. I guess this is even making my self esteem be as low as it gets when I see the women he is pursuing. (skinny and pretty) He says that he loves to normally be dom. with the woman he is with but wants to be submissive from time to time. I don't see how that can be truthful unless he lies on his own profile, why not just put down that you are a switch? I guess that is the point I am getting at, not to mention that I am usually dom. in relationships, so why not use me because I am really good at being dom.? Thanks in advance for the advice!


I am a hard ass when it comes to cheating and I don't give second chances (must be the Scorpio in me), so read the following with either a grain of salt or sugar depending on your tastes...

So he knows you are upset about it and yet continues to seek other women, thus shows his total disrespect for your feelings.  He does not love you but you persist in loving him.  You may think that you are overweight and unattractive, but somewhere in the world is a man that will (and probably already does) think you are the perfect goddess whether you are in a Domme, sub, or vanilla role.  Your self esteem is low because you continue to tolerate this situation.  He doesn't use you as a Domme because you continue to allow him to treat you as a doormat.  So, I must ask as LadyPact did, if this were a vanilla relationship, would you put up with this crap? 

I too found an ad of an ex online seeking other women.  I did the only thing I could think of to do (and I don't recommend this, it's just my way.)  I put up my own ad on the same site and made sure he found it, several months later of course.  He wasn't pleased when the tables were turned and I had one hell of a fun time until he discovered it.  If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.  Of course the relationship ended, but it ended with both of us on equal footing with the trust broken all around (translation... it ended on my terms, not his, and I had a blast describing everything and everyone that I enjoyed in detail after finding his ad right before throwing him out on his ear.)

But it sounds like better advice for your situation would be... Don't focus all your attention on someone who doesn't focus all his attention on you.  Unless of course, a poly relationship was discussed and agreed upon by both of you beforehand.  Which is not the case here.  Only you can take back the control of your life and make yourself happy.

Lady

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 5:38:55 PM   
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Did you discuss being monogamous? Because if he didn't agree to it, then you don't have the right to demand it.

Beyond that, it sounds as though you bring out his dominant side but he still wants someone to top him. Can you top him? Are you willing to do that?

You need to stop assuming and start talking about what you need in a relationship. You apparently want an exclusive relationship with a dominant. He needs to have two exclusive relationships, one with a dominant and one with a submissive.

Would you be okay with this if he didn't have sex with the domme? Just service and play? And if you talked to her to make sure this was a nonsexual relationship?

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 5:39:20 PM   
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If there wasn't kink involved, would you still be willing to be an active participant in this situation?



Normally I'd say this is a good question, however, this OP (unlike others in a similar situation that post here) is NOT asking if she should be a "good" sub/slave and just acquiesce to "the Domly one".  Rather, she's asking what she should do from a RELATIONSHIP (not a BDSM) standpoint; as she's more than willing to play the dominant role that he states he's seeking... just not from HER!

I say DUMP HIS ASS... FAST!!!



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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 5:44:59 PM   
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There is something on my mind and I need advice from people who might understand, better than anyone I know at least. I am seeing someone who is into BDSM and treats me as a submissive. I am into this too and don't mind being submissive with him, first time I have been submissive actually. On this site he claims to be a submissive though and is actively seeking dom. couples, and women. I am confused and hurt because it seems like he doesn't want to be with me. It seems like an excuse to continue looking for more than what I give him. He says that BDSM is just one aspect of our relationship and we have much more than this that makes us "us". I agree with that because I am pretty sure none of his friends/family know about this side of us. I am feeling very upset because we have this conversation a lot when I find out he has been out hunting for women to see or service, etc. I am done with the conversations because it is the same result. I want to know what someone would do if they were in my shoes. I feel so damned if I do right now because I am in love with him even though I am sure he does not love me. I just feel like a stupid fool right now, truly living up to be a sad submissive. The other thing is that I know I am fat, not attractive and etc. I have a good job and educated and I am very good in bed. I guess this is even making my self esteem be as low as it gets when I see the women he is pursuing. (skinny and pretty) He says that he loves to normally be dom. with the woman he is with but wants to be submissive from time to time. I don't see how that can be truthful unless he lies on his own profile, why not just put down that you are a switch? I guess that is the point I am getting at, not to mention that I am usually dom. in relationships, so why not use me because I am really good at being dom.? Thanks in advance for the advice!

It sounds like he's just not that into you. i personally would find a man that wants a monogamous relationship. (it sounds like thats what you want) PLENTY of D-types out there that don't want to share their toys!

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/22/2009 6:16:54 PM   
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You are 27 years old, and it's time to start acting like it. Even when I was 19 I wouldn't have put up with shit like this from anyone I cared about. He's using you and you're LETTING him. If you get hurt from it all because you never stopped it to begin with, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Just get out of it while you aren't completely vested. Sure you love him, but love doesn't fix all the problems in the world, and this is obviously a huge problem for you, and not that big of a deal for him. It will never get 'fixed'.


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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/23/2009 11:17:04 AM   
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Thank you so much for all of the opinions and advice! I am truly amazed at the amount of people willing to read my "problem" and be willing to input solid advice or just their opinion, it is very much appreciated.

1) I have spoken to him about how I feel. He has never shown real interest in me being domme with him even though I feel I am even better at domme than he is and could probably teach him a few things without him investing time and money on a different person to be domme.

2) His friends and family love and adore me and visa versa. This is the aspect that makes the situation the most difficult aside from the feelings I do believe are true for him. They know nothing about this side of our relationship. I do not think they would suspect anything like this is happening.

3) I do need to seek some kind of therapy and show myself more respect, no matter ends up coming of this relationship. As someone said in this thread that not even their 19 year old self would put up with this and I had to think to myself that would be so true of my 19 year old self. I have become a shell of my former self somehow. I am a strong woman though and have been through a lot in my life so I am positive I will come out of this thriving.

4) As for the question about the kink involved in our relationship......we were not kinky together really at all for the first few months we were seeing each other. Then he asked me if I was into bdsm at all and I said yes. It all started from there and it has been an interesting/eye-opening experience because I have never been submissive with anyone before. I think that is part of the thing that draws me to him too. (something someone else said in here too) Aside from the bdsm being involved with us I do like the person he is a great deal. We get along personality wise very well. But......

5) Having been raised in a very abusive household as a child and been lied to and having had to lie to make my home life a secret I cannot stand this aspect of him and our relationship. I feel as though the only ways I find out new information about him are when I catch him and then he jokes about it like he thought I already knew or he gets defensive and tells me not to worry about it. I found a suitcase in his closet full of women's clothing because I knew he had put all of our sex toys in there. I did not know he was into cross dressing. He could have just told me that in the first place. I let it go because I felt like maybe I was doing something wrong to make him not feel safe to tell me. I can only blame myself for so long though. This is not to even mention that his own profile on this site lies to everyone. He does not mention me at all, he does not say he is just looking for a domme (he lists switches and subs too), he does not say he is domme or a switch but purely submissive and he never is open about the women he is talking to or when/if he is going to meet them.

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/23/2009 12:21:05 PM   
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Ok.  You did what I asked.  You answered My question so now I will answer yours.

If it were Me, I would realize the fact that this person did not respect My feelings on what seems to be an obvious preference for monogamy, look to see if there were truly areas of incompatibility, put My damn foot down about him ceasing feeding into the low self esteem issues, and if I couldn't resolve these things, I would leave.

The reason that I asked you the question that I did was because you don't have a kink issue.  What you have are compatibility, relationship, and self worth issues.  Those have nothing to do with kink and would be the same problems that you would still have even if you took all of the kink away.  If you weren't kinky, and he was seeking someone because he wants variety (i.e. different body type), you can't go back and blame that or his actions on kink.


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ORIGINAL: SomethingElse9

Thank you so much for all of the opinions and advice! I am truly amazed at the amount of people willing to read my "problem" and be willing to input solid advice or just their opinion, it is very much appreciated.

1) I have spoken to him about how I feel. He has never shown real interest in me being domme with him even though I feel I am even better at domme than he is and could probably teach him a few things without him investing time and money on a different person to be domme.

Problem number one.  The reason he doesn't see you as a Dominant female is because it's very obvious who controls who in this situation.  You are putting up with whatever situation he chooses to give you.  That is not the way Dominant women handle matters.  You don't have the confidence to say that you want monogamy, put your foot down, and see it through.  That's not his fault.  That's your fault.  His behavior is exactly what you are allowing it to be.

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2) His friends and family love and adore me and visa versa. This is the aspect that makes the situation the most difficult aside from the feelings I do believe are true for him. They know nothing about this side of our relationship. I do not think they would suspect anything like this is happening.

Problem two.  His friends and family don't have anything to do with this, nor should they.  If you are unhappy in the relationship, being on good terms with them isn't exactly making you less miserable.

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3) I do need to seek some kind of therapy and show myself more respect, no matter ends up coming of this relationship. As someone said in this thread that not even their 19 year old self would put up with this and I had to think to myself that would be so true of my 19 year old self. I have become a shell of my former self somehow. I am a strong woman though and have been through a lot in my life so I am positive I will come out of this thriving.

Problem three.  You have obviously ignored this situation for too long.  Follow through on getting some help.  That one is actually positive.

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4) As for the question about the kink involved in our relationship......we were not kinky together really at all for the first few months we were seeing each other. Then he asked me if I was into bdsm at all and I said yes. It all started from there and it has been an interesting/eye-opening experience because I have never been submissive with anyone before. I think that is part of the thing that draws me to him too. (something someone else said in here too) Aside from the bdsm being involved with us I do like the person he is a great deal. We get along personality wise very well. But......

Problem four.  Hey, I know gals who have been in physically abusive (non BDSM type) relationships that would literally say, "Yes, he abuses me against my will, but otherwise, he's a great guy".  I don't care how wonderful he is if he doesn't respect your feelings or has behaviors that don't have any integrity.  If he can't be up front with you about wanting to be with other women and goes behind your back to do it, sorry, but he isn't winning any prizes.

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5) Having been raised in a very abusive household as a child and been lied to and having had to lie to make my home life a secret I cannot stand this aspect of him and our relationship. I feel as though the only ways I find out new information about him are when I catch him and then he jokes about it like he thought I already knew or he gets defensive and tells me not to worry about it. I found a suitcase in his closet full of women's clothing because I knew he had put all of our sex toys in there. I did not know he was into cross dressing. He could have just told me that in the first place. I let it go because I felt like maybe I was doing something wrong to make him not feel safe to tell me. I can only blame myself for so long though. This is not to even mention that his own profile on this site lies to everyone. He does not mention me at all, he does not say he is just looking for a domme (he lists switches and subs too), he does not say he is domme or a switch but purely submissive and he never is open about the women he is talking to or when/if he is going to meet them.

Problem five.  He lies to you because you tolerate it.  Why should he stop?  There obviously aren't any consequences for his actions.  You aren't showing him that you have the strength to make him tell you the truth.  He's getting away with exactly what he wants to.  You haven't put a stop to it, why should he?


Now, I don't believe in just bitching about a problem without offering a solution.  Here's what you do.

1.  Like I said above, follow through on working on your self esteem.  It isn't anywhere near the level that you could be.  That's regardless of if you're kinky, not kinky, sub, Domme, or any other label that you put on yourself.

2.  Sit down with him and have some serious communication.  It's probably going to take more than just once.  Start coming to some kind of common ground on some big issues such as monogamy, poly, hard limits, honesty, areas you are compatible in, and those that you aren't.  Even as a s-type, you have every right to leave a situation that is being mentally and emotionally damaging to you if it's not the one you want to be in.  If this can't be something that is mutually beneficial to the two of you, use your feet.

3.  Stick around CM.  There's a lot more to learn here than some might think.


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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/23/2009 2:11:15 PM   
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OP: Love does not "conquer all", love will not "find a way", and sometimes love is just not enough.

When you have a basic incompatibility, and/or you are with a jerk, love won't be enough reason to continue on.

And because you have such low self- esteem, I'd venture a guess that you would love almost any asshole more than you love your own self. So what you may be experiencing as love, may actually be your own low self-esteem staring you in the face. Take a look at it, and make steps to correct the problem.

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RE: Wondering what you would do..... - 12/23/2009 8:26:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SomethingElse9

There is something on my mind and I need advice from people who might understand, better than anyone I know at least. I am seeing someone who is into BDSM and treats me as a submissive. I am into this too and don't mind being submissive with him, first time I have been submissive actually. On this site he claims to be a submissive though and is actively seeking dom. couples, and women. I am confused and hurt because it seems like he doesn't want to be with me. It seems like an excuse to continue looking for more than what I give him. He says that BDSM is just one aspect of our relationship and we have much more than this that makes us "us". I agree with that because I am pretty sure none of his friends/family know about this side of us. I am feeling very upset because we have this conversation a lot when I find out he has been out hunting for women to see or service, etc. I am done with the conversations because it is the same result. I want to know what someone would do if they were in my shoes. I feel so damned if I do right now because I am in love with him even though I am sure he does not love me. I just feel like a stupid fool right now, truly living up to be a sad submissive. The other thing is that I know I am fat, not attractive and etc. I have a good job and educated and I am very good in bed. I guess this is even making my self esteem be as low as it gets when I see the women he is pursuing. (skinny and pretty) He says that he loves to normally be dom. with the woman he is with but wants to be submissive from time to time. I don't see how that can be truthful unless he lies on his own profile, why not just put down that you are a switch? I guess that is the point I am getting at, not to mention that I am usually dom. in relationships, so why not use me because I am really good at being dom.? Thanks in advance for the advice!


I just read this whole thing.

Quite tedious actually (Paragraphs are a fabulous thing).

Tried to look up your profile....says you're 27.

Chances are....even if you like donuts....you're hot.

Relax. You're 27. You don't know shit.

(Neither does he).

He's wrong. He'll grow up. (So will you).

Have a great time :)

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