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humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 4:35:36 PM

pistachio

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i'd like to hear people's opinions on how effective humilation is on getting a sub/slave to lose weight. i'm aware of the personal trainer approacher, where you encourage him/her to lose weight through healthy eating and exercise as well as lots of encouragement and positive reinforcement. But what about the humiliation type approach? For some subs/slaves they might respond better to being forced to sniff their own crap or run til they drop or eat baby food only or eat food they really hate or be called names til they cry.

Obviously this has to be a kink for both Dom and sub but i just wonder if anyone has any opinions/experiences to share on this?

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 5:58:58 PM

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Hmmm verbal humiliation like calling them a fat slob or jelly belly or lardarse, don't know if I could get down with that, well probably could if that is *exactly* what the sub needs/wants me to do...and only verbal humiliate as part of a controlled scene where they want to be humiliated for being out of shape...and the flipside to that is I can do all things good and positive outside the scene/s...but its not in my nature to be derogatory to someone just for the hell of it...

Ps, how effective humilation would be for weight loss no idea sorry

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 6:02:56 PM

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how interesting...am in the process of doing such with a nice yet over weight subbie girl..

she is being measured and weight taken....give a diet and instruction for complete life change...

each time period between weight inand measurement...she is given what will be the reward...and the punishment if she fails to reduce before next weigh in... how sucessful it will work...will get back to you....

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 6:09:48 PM

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Sorry, but as much as I enjoy humilation and degradation...I agree with Jasmyn here...It just sounds too much like intentionally trying to hurt someone.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 6:09:50 PM

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Humiliation would never ever work with me.

NEVER

i get enough of being kicked around in my life... to be humiliated by someone i trust so completely would probably rip me to the core.

IMHO if my weight is that big of an issue for you, then i'm NOT the sub for you...

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 6:23:08 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pistachio

i'd like to hear people's opinions on how effective humilation is on getting a sub/slave to lose weight. i'm aware of the personal trainer approacher, where you encourage him/her to lose weight through healthy eating and exercise as well as lots of encouragement and positive reinforcement. But what about the humiliation type approach? For some subs/slaves they might respond better to being forced to sniff their own crap or run til they drop or eat baby food only or eat food they really hate or be called names til they cry.

Obviously this has to be a kink for both Dom and sub but i just wonder if anyone has any opinions/experiences to share on this?

cheers,
pistachio

All sorts of things work for different folks, but I prefer positive over negative. Add in that I would care for the one I'd be working with, and I can't see making them feel like shit, much less making them smell it.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 7:05:27 PM

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as with all kinks i think it has to do wtih the individual couple and what works for them. some really get off on being humiliated. some are scarred from it. so if i would make sure it would not cause emotional damage to the sub first.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 7:07:28 PM

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What an interesting question. i would imagine like any other area in this wonderful world of D/s, M/s, BDSM, it entirely depends on what works for a given individual.

i respond quite favorably to severe humiliation from my Master - something we both discovered together some time ago. i have slid up and down the weight scale for years, going from absolute perfect shape, to obese, back to great shape again, to somewhere in the middle. my diet must be intensely strict in order for me to stay in shape. If someone next to me is eating junk food, i swear i'll gain the weight!

Having said that, i became very sensitive about my body. At the moment i am not in shape, but working to get there yet again. Master has never made me feel degraded about my body, but he wants me to bring it to a point where i am healthiest and happiest. He is guiding me in this endeavor by being encouraging yet strict. i report all intake and weigh in weekly.

This topic is interesting, however, because being called, and occasionally made to behave like a pig is something he uses while humiliating me. The first time that word left his lips, i cringed and was determined to face it head on, daring him to call me that - wanting him to - until i relished in it like i relish in all other forms of humiliation he puts me through. i do not equate that word with being fat. At least not in an insulting and hurtful way.

i think humiliation is only effective when it is not hurtful and/or damaging to the recipient. Master called me "chubby" once and it pained me greatly. He has never said it again (that was over a year ago) although i don't think it would bother me now, coming from him.

If someone is using humiliation as a way to push a submissive to lose weight, and it is only hurtful to her, i can only see it being a counterproductive feat, and end up detrimental to both the submissive and the relationship. i belive one really needs to know his/her submissive and take great care in attempting something such as this.

~ Edited to clarify the "pig" exercise is in no way related to his guidance of my weight loss.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 7:46:08 PM

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quote:

i'd like to hear people's opinions on how effective humilation is on getting a sub/slave to lose weight. i'm aware of the personal trainer approacher, where you encourage him/her to lose weight through healthy eating and exercise as well as lots of encouragement and positive reinforcement. But what about the humiliation type approach? For some subs/slaves they might respond better to being forced to sniff their own crap or run til they drop or eat baby food only or eat food they really hate or be called names til they cry.

Humiliation and me will never be friends. i am one of the lucky ones who thus far in my life do not have a weight problem, but believe if someone were calling me nasty names in regards to my weight or any other physical area of my body, i would probaly lose the self-esteem i need to serve Any one well.

Just my thought, i know there are people out there who thrive for humiliation, i just find negative brings negative.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 7:57:40 PM

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I have to second all.

Humilation over weight will never fly and would have opisit effects of anything desired.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 8:14:12 PM

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Just tickles me to death... to meet someone... like them for who they are... want to make them yours... because of who they are... and when you get them.. change them.

I can see HELPING one stay healthy. Eating right, exercise, words of encouragement. But to out and out change them... pppppfffftttttttt

If I sit down to dinner with one..and he says some bullshit sarcastic remark about me and my weight... he will see himself wearing his... and recooking or ordering out. And that's after he's picking his ass up off the floor. Because I may be heavy... I can still move... and I pack a power punch when I strike.

Now let me make comment about my fat ass.... I got no problems there. I know it's there, I know I am working on lossing some of it... but it is of MY concern... not anothers. No matter if owned or not.

If owned, and one doesn't like what is becoming of me... voicing ones concerns in a loving manner... will go alot further than humiliation and being sarcastic and rude.

BUT THAT"S JUST MY OPINION... no need to break out flame throwers.... lol

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 8:27:09 PM

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i come with no flames, honest!

But i do have a question for you. Does that concept apply to all areas of your life? Such as, if there were ways of thinking that weren't healthy for you. would you want a Master to guide you to a mentally/emotionally healthier place? Or what if he said "Jessica, you are a beautiful woman, on the outside as well as the inside, but I am concerned about your health so I would like you to work on your weight since I'd like you to outlive me, rather than the opposite."

Does that make a difference?

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 8:32:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

i come with no flames, honest!

But i do have a question for you. Does that concept apply to all areas of your life? Such as, if there were ways of thinking that weren't healthy for you. would you want a Master to guide you to a mentally/emotionally healthier place? Or what if he said "Jessica, you are a beautiful woman, on the outside as well as the inside, but I am concerned about your health so I would like you to work on your weight since I'd like you to outlive me, rather than the opposite."

Does that make a difference?

Owned... that's why I said.. and I quote myself...

If owned, and one doesn't like what is becoming of me... voicing ones concerns in a loving manner... will go alot further than humiliation and being sarcastic and rude.

It's all in how it's done.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 8:34:19 PM

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Got it. Sorry i missed that part.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 8:35:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

Got it. Sorry i missed that part.

lol np.. I miss alot too .. tosses owned an apple and sugar cubes..

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 8:44:38 PM

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Hey easy on the sugar - - i'm on a diet, remember?!! :p

It's interesting, as i think about this. As firm as he is in most areas of my life, he has never been harsh on me in this area. He has been nothing but encouraging, in fact.

Then again, firm is one thing...i think if he used humiliation as a training or discipline tool, it would damage me. Humiliation is only used to bring me to a particular state of mind that we both enjoy me being in. Perhaps that is why humiliation feels safe to me - because it is not "misused." Hmm...interesting...

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 8:50:36 PM

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Although i do like certain types of humiliation, it would never work for weight loss for me, in fact it would probably have the opposite effect and cause me to overeat.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 9:12:32 PM

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quote:

i'd like to hear people's opinions on how effective humilation is on getting a sub/slave to lose weight.

Direct humiliation would probably not work on the vast majority of overweight people. We're already sensitive about our bodies as it is, and negative reinforcement of that body image we carry with us is more than likely going to have the opposite effect. In other words, calling me a fat cow is more likely to cause me to seek comfort in food than it is to cause me to really want to lose weight. It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

On the other hand... I saw a program the other evening in which they told five people they had 8 weeks to lose 15 lb. They had taken photographs of these people in bikini bathing suits one size too small for them, and said they were going to show those photographs on national television for each person who did not lose the 15 pounds. Four of the five people lost the 15 and then some, just to avoid the threatened humiliation.

It seems the THREAT of humiliation is a more effective motivator than the humiliation itself. I know that a threat of humiliation was what made me quit smoking cold turkey, and it's been VERY easy to not smoke these past almost six years.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 9:48:06 PM

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I can tell you from experience that it didn't work for me with my wife. We've been married for over 35 years and I've tried EVERYTHING to get her to lose weight. She has tried off and on but problems with her knees and ankles keep her from exercising and she happens to be a gourmet cook. I tried the humiliation thing and it just hurt her and made her eat more of the stuff that she didn't need. I tried support, dieting with her, doctors (she worked for an over weight specialist for four years and gained 40 pounds!), and even offered to pay for surgery if that's what she wanted. Nothing worked. She's now 5'3" and just over 300 pounds. She now, I think, has decided that she has to do something or she'll be crippled and unable to get around in a few years. Since we both just retired that would really put a damper on our retirement plans so maybe this time she'll do something.

My point is that the person involved has to WANT to do something and be willing to make the commitment and sacrifces to accomplish that goal. I doubt that humiliation will accomplish much unless we're talking about less than 20 pounds.

My opinion only.......and experience.

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RE: humiliation and weight loss - 3/18/2006 9:56:04 PM

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Although i happen to love verbal humiliation being verbally humiliated to lose weight would not work on me. Currently, my Master has me losing weight He did that because i expressed an interest in losing some weight, a desire to keep His property in good shape and health. Losing weight was not a demand or a requirement but for someone who has a DOM/ME who this is a requirement for, i would just hope that whatever method used to acheive weight loss is something that will work for all involved.

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