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luckydawg -> RE: Obamacare sparking 10th Amendment rebellion, action in seven states (12/28/2009 3:28:43 PM)
MM, so Obama is involved in writing the bill....

submittous -> RE: Obamacare sparking 10th Amendment rebellion, action in seven states (12/28/2009 6:33:39 PM)
Yikes, are there ever some bizarre posts in this thread.... are some of you guys just funnin us??

Sanity -> RE: Obamacare sparking 10th Amendment rebellion, action in seven states (12/30/2009 3:29:54 PM)
Harry Reid's Christmas present which he took from all the other states to give to the people of Nebraska is coming under increasing scrutiny, and rightly so. quote: 13 AGs threaten suit over health care [img]http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/nws/p/ap_logo_106.png[/img] COLUMBIA, S.C. – Republican attorneys general in 13 states say congressional leaders must remove Nebraska's political deal from the federal health care reform bill or face legal action, according to a letter provided to The Associated Press Wednesday. "We believe this provision is constitutionally flawed," South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster and the 12 other attorneys general wrote in the letter to be sent Wednesday night to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. "As chief legal officers of our states we are contemplating a legal challenge to this provision and we ask you to take action to render this challenge unnecessary by striking that provision," they wrote. Full article at: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091230/ap_on_re_us/us_health_care_deal_states

Sanity -> RE: Obamacare sparking 10th Amendment rebellion, action in seven states (12/30/2009 4:17:17 PM)
quote: Health Care Vote Puts Nelson 30 Points Down in Reelection Bid The good news for Senator Ben Nelson is that he doesn't have to face Nebraska voters until 2012. If Governor Dave Heineman challenges Nelson for the Senate job, a new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows the Republican would get 61% of the vote while Nelson would get just 30%. Nelson was reelected to a second Senate term in 2006 with 64% of the vote. Nelson's health care vote is clearly dragging his numbers down. Just 17% of Nebraska voters approve of the deal their senator made on Medicaid in exchange for his vote in support of the plan. Overall, 64% oppose the health care legislation, including 53% who are Strongly Opposed. In Nebraska, opposition is even stronger than it is nationally. Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters in the state believe that passage of the legislation will hurt the quality of care, and 62% say it will raise costs. Full article at: http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/20091229/pl_rasmussen/nebraskasenate20091229_1

mnottertail -> RE: Obamacare sparking 10th Amendment rebellion, action in seven states (12/30/2009 5:11:13 PM)
and for those who dont get it, and really nobody gives a fuck....... why was the drinking age in louisanna raised from 16 in the day? see is this constitutional thread and see the word: draft. thanks for playing....... Ron

tazzygirl -> RE: Obamacare sparking 10th Amendment rebellion, action in seven states (12/30/2009 5:12:56 PM)
Can anyone see this part of the Senate Bill actually getting out of the joint committee to go to a vote before both the house and senate? The deal was made.... there was never a guarentee on the final outcome. Here is the process for health care as it stands now... Conference Once a bill leaves the House and the Senate, it must be checked. If anything in the two versions of the bill differ, in any way (even in something as minor as punctuation), the bill must be reconciled. The house in which the bill originated is given a copy of the bill with its differences. For example, if the House originated a bill, then sent it along to the Senate for consideration, and the Senate made changes, the bill is sent back to the House. If the changes are minor, they might be accepted by the originating house with no debate. If changes are of a more substantial nature, however, a conference is called for. In a conference, a number of Representative and a number of Senators meet to work out the differences in the two versions of the bill. The people in the conference committee are known as managers. The number of managers from each house of Congress is of little concern, because the managers from each house vote separately. So, for example, a conference committee might have ten Representatives and seven Senators. Managers are not allowed to substantially change the bill. They may add an amendment from one bill into the other, or take out an amendment added but not in the other. But they cannot add new amendments to both versions of the bill. When there is disagreement, new text, which might be a compromise between two versions, can be proposed. But the changes must be consistent with the bill itself. Following negotiations, the managers make reports back to their houses, that they were able to agree on the bill, able to agree only on some parts of the bill, or were unable to agree at all on the bill. If the first case, the bill is revoted upon in both houses. If the latter two cases, the bill may go back to a new conference committee, referred back to the committees in the two houses, or it may just die because the differences are too vast to bridge. http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_law.html To be honest, im not sure i like being insulted this way by our elected officials.

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