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lally2 -> RE: new definition of slave (12/27/2009 3:23:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: QuirkyAnne

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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a woman that freely sets aside the free exercise of her rights and accepts the decisions of another

I like your "new" definition of:  submissive.



So does "setting aside the free exercise of her rights" describe a sub where for a slave it would be, "SURRENDERING her rights completely to the decisions of another?"

Anne




i didnt surrender - that would suggest that i 'gave in', i didnt, i freely gave up my rights and accepted the authority of my Master.



Aswad -> RE: new definition of slave (12/27/2009 9:12:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SassySarijane

I think I'll go with Cluster fucks per week for $400 Ale...er Aswad ~grin~


For $400 monopoly money, your question is: "What's the one, twue definition of a switch?"

Phrase the answer as a question to earn a score of bonus brownie points.

Health,
al-Aswad.



osf -> RE: new definition of slave (12/27/2009 9:31:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: SassySarijane

I think I'll go with Cluster fucks per week for $400 Ale...er Aswad ~grin~


For $400 monopoly money, your question is: "What's the one, twue definition of a switch?"

Phrase the answer as a question to earn a score of bonus brownie points.

Health,
al-Aswad.



switch = somebody i don't understand



RealSub58 -> RE: new definition of slave (12/27/2009 10:00:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf
i was told it was new when i bought it


bought what, a book?  
                     a slave,  how much you pay for her?
                     cup of java?  



osf -> RE: new definition of slave (12/27/2009 10:01:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RealSub58

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ORIGINAL: osf
i was told it was new when i bought it


bought what, a book?  
                     a slave,  how much you pay for her?
                     cup of java?  


a blow up doll



RealSub58 -> RE: new definition of slave (12/27/2009 10:02:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

It is possible that this will finally put and end to the sub Vs slave threads. For that alone I would thank you.


Jeff


and I will applaud fervantly for his new found freedom to leave things rest



osf -> RE: new definition of slave (12/27/2009 10:08:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RealSub58

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

It is possible that this will finally put and end to the sub Vs slave threads. For that alone I would thank you.


Jeff


and I will applaud fervantly for his new found freedom to leave things rest


that will be kinda hard with new people coming on all the time with the same old questions

but i think we came up with a novel twist to the question on this thread

and beside i like questioning basic assumptions



Justme696 -> RE: new definition of slave (12/27/2009 11:58:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: osf


so your into kidnapping?



yes

( to keep the discussion short)



Level -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 3:44:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: osf


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: SassySarijane

I think I'll go with Cluster fucks per week for $400 Ale...er Aswad ~grin~


For $400 monopoly money, your question is: "What's the one, twue definition of a switch?"

Phrase the answer as a question to earn a score of bonus brownie points.

Health,
al-Aswad.



switch = somebody i don't understand


We're not that hard to figure out. Well, some of us.



DesFIP -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 5:35:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero


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ORIGINAL: Justme696

you mean a sub?

Not really. His quick definition gives the implication that the yielding ("of rights") is happening in a comprehensive manner, in which case "slave" is more applicable than "sub".



In your opinion. In mine, it's a good definition of a sub.
And his definition does not state categorically that she lays aside all rights at the same time. Because damn few would be willing to sign over the deed to their house, ownership of their firms, sign away inheritances, children's college funds etc. And if that's what is required to be categorically and comprehensively then none of us are slaves except those who don't have anything worth losing.



Elisabella -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 5:41:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

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ORIGINAL: osf

(Re: "submissive")

a woman that almost sets aside the free exercise of her rights and accepts the decisions of another

Replace the word "almost" with "selectively" and (save for the gender thing) you're pretty much set again.



I'd say a submissive is better defined as "someone who selectively chooses to align her will with another's" because at least for me, being a submissive isn't about losing my rights. It's about exercising them in the manner in which I choose.



Elisabella -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 5:42:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: osf


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aswad

quote:

ORIGINAL: SassySarijane

I think I'll go with Cluster fucks per week for $400 Ale...er Aswad ~grin~


For $400 monopoly money, your question is: "What's the one, twue definition of a switch?"

Phrase the answer as a question to earn a score of bonus brownie points.

Health,
al-Aswad.



switch = somebody i don't understand


LOL I can't argue with that!



crazyml -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 5:53:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


quote:

ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

(Re: "submissive")

a woman that almost sets aside the free exercise of her rights and accepts the decisions of another

Replace the word "almost" with "selectively" and (save for the gender thing) you're pretty much set again.



I'd say a submissive is better defined as "someone who selectively chooses to align her will with another's" because at least for me, being a submissive isn't about losing my rights. It's about exercising them in the manner in which I choose.


I really like this!





Elisabella -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 5:58:13 AM)

Thank you :)



crazyml -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 6:00:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

well maybe new today

Yes, new today perhaps - certainly not new in the context of the endless debates on the definition of slave.
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a woman that freely sets aside the free exercise of her rights and accepts the decisions of another


Notwithstanding the contradiction here (by definition if the setting aside is done freely, so can the taking back) and the stark contrast between this and real slavery - Where the rights aren't freely set aside, but forcibly taken, I don't think this is too bad.





kiwisub12 -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 6:28:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

quote:

ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

(And perhaps make it clear that you are speaking of "slave" in a WIITWD context, lest any historical purists complain.)


There goes ten pages of posts into the trashbin...

BTW, what would be the natural unit to measure the frequency with which this term is redefined?

Jargon updates per page? Cluster fucks per week? Tufts (of hair) per new user per unread page? Kilobytes per day?

Health,
al-Aswad.




How about snarky posts per week? [:D]



osf -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 6:51:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

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ORIGINAL: osf

well maybe new today

Yes, new today perhaps - certainly not new in the context of the endless debates on the definition of slave.
quote:


a woman that freely sets aside the free exercise of her rights and accepts the decisions of another


Notwithstanding the contradiction here (by definition if the setting aside is done freely, so can the taking back) and the stark contrast between this and real slavery - Where the rights aren't freely set aside, but forcibly taken, I don't think this is too bad.







exactly, there is no such thing as a true slave in our society

it's a case she has to freely accept decisions made on her behalf



Acer49 -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 6:57:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: osf

well maybe new today

a woman that freely sets aside the free exercise of her rights and accepts the decisions of another


Some may say this is a good definition for a submissive as well



osf -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 7:06:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Acer49


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ORIGINAL: osf

well maybe new today

a woman that freely sets aside the free exercise of her rights and accepts the decisions of another


Some may say this is a good definition for a submissive as well


change freely with selectively (courtesy of zero) to describe a subbie



QuirkyAnne -> RE: new definition of slave (12/28/2009 7:15:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lally2

i didnt surrender - that would suggest that i 'gave in', i didnt, i freely gave up my rights and accepted the authority of my Master.


Well, that's what I meant, but yours is definitely a better wording.

Anne



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