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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 7:20:04 AM   
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I sincerely hope that no "newly emerging submissives" listen to anything you have to say, simply because what you say above is beyond ludicrous.

How on earth could you offer the advice you just gave and tell someone not to "worry" about getting to know someone on many different levels?

Shakes head...


the gist is not to let them stop you from learning what he has to teach you about yourself

men you can learn something from aren't lined up

you are bringing a lifetime of morality with you, and it doesn't work

sorry but that is reality as i see it

who the fuck ever said this life was always nice and clean and comfy , well they lied

you can stand on the side or you can experience, you can't do both


and my advice is for adult women, they are free to accept or reject

and for you to make the ludicrous comment is ludicrous


after all aren't we supposed to be perverts with our own personal morality?

because the morality of the masses is contrary to our needs

and getting to know may be as simple is knowing he won't mangle you



< Message edited by osf -- 12/29/2009 7:25:04 AM >


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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 7:33:10 AM   
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it is extremely rare for a new sub to meet a capable dom fall in love get married and suffer blissfully for the rest of her life (the romance)

what are the rest to do, convents? ( the reality)

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:10:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

it is extremely rare for a new sub to meet a capable dom fall in love get married and suffer blissfully for the rest of her life (the romance)



I would imagine, though, that the percentage of vanilla relationships that ultimately end in marriage (or, at least, some sort of long-term commitment) would be no more than those of a D/s flavour. Everyone has an "ideal" when it comes to romance and relationships; if we didn't, we would never find someone we could be happy with.

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:15:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dominasola

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ORIGINAL: osf

it is extremely rare for a new sub to meet a capable dom fall in love get married and suffer blissfully for the rest of her life (the romance)



I would imagine, though, that the percentage of vanilla relationships that ultimately end in marriage (or, at least, some sort of long-term commitment) would be no more than those of a D/s flavour. Everyone has an "ideal" when it comes to romance and relationships; if we didn't, we would never find someone we could be happy with.



but in the meantime how many women date only the perfect male?

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:20:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

quote:

I sincerely hope that no "newly emerging submissives" listen to anything you have to say, simply because what you say above is beyond ludicrous.

How on earth could you offer the advice you just gave and tell someone not to "worry" about getting to know someone on many different levels?

Shakes head...


the gist is not to let them stop you from learning what he has to teach you about yourself

men you can learn something from aren't lined up

you are bringing a lifetime of morality with you, and it doesn't work

sorry but that is reality as i see it

who the fuck ever said this life was always nice and clean and comfy , well they lied

you can stand on the side or you can experience, you can't do both


and my advice is for adult women, they are free to accept or reject

and for you to make the ludicrous comment is ludicrous


after all aren't we supposed to be perverts with our own personal morality?

because the morality of the masses is contrary to our needs

and getting to know may be as simple is knowing he won't mangle you




I was going to try and respond to each of your sentences, but decided that you are too obtuse and contradictory to do so. You can post on every board on CM, but you really do not make any sense.  I have seen one or two posts of yours that are slightly amusing, but most are just random thoughts posted to seek attention.

Enjoy.

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:21:36 AM   
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Who dates the perfect anything?



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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:22:42 AM   
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  sincerely hope that no "newly emerging submissives" listen to anything you have to say, simply because what you say above is beyond ludicrous.

How on earth could you offer the advice you just gave and tell someone not to "worry" about getting to know someone on many different levels?

Shakes head...


sexyred, it tis a scary thought. Especially since it seem the op is starting a lot of threads and by doing that he is uping his points making him look so advance. A new sub or Dom for that matter might look at him as an expert. I was hoping when he started this that he 1. would lose interest or 2. people wouldnt respond, but i see something that i didnt expect and am happy about. People calling him out for his 'candy store' views. I cant comprehend anyone living on these boards as he is, unless maybe the are manic and not taking their meds..seriously.

i am glad to see people posting to show newbies he isn't someone who has a lot of knowledge, just hyperness. I am not one to bash another, but in his case people need to become aware of what is going on verses him being looked upon as someone with a lot of knowledge under his belt.



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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:23:21 AM   
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Exactly. Perfection is just as abstract of a thought as most of the OP's are. Perfection, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:24:10 AM   
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quote:

I was going to try and respond to each of your sentences, but decided that you are too obtuse and contradictory to do so. You can post on every board on CM, but you really do not make any sense.  I have seen one or two posts of yours that are slightly amusing, but most are just random thoughts posted to seek attention.


so things you disagree with are abuse and senseless?

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:25:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Who dates the perfect anything?



Jeff


i live with a goose ( i wonder where this will go)

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:25:30 AM   
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both serve the relationship and through that render what the other wants


that is romantic and can be reality ......I think

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:26:11 AM   
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And do you "know" this goose?


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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:26:22 AM   
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honesty scares the hell out of some

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:33:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

quote:

I was going to try and respond to each of your sentences, but decided that you are too obtuse and contradictory to do so. You can post on every board on CM, but you really do not make any sense.  I have seen one or two posts of yours that are slightly amusing, but most are just random thoughts posted to seek attention.


so things you disagree with are abuse and senseless?


No. I disagree with your generic comments about submissives and how they need to be protected from big, bad Doms. I disagree with your comments that love is overrated and that romance is overrated. I disagree with all your generalizations about relationships since there are as many types of relationships that work, and as many reasons why they do not work, as there are snowflakes.

I also disagree with your methods of communication...you post fragments of ideas, posted as questions and none of them are very clear at all. I also do not see where morality has anything to do with the discussion.

For example, what do you mean "abuse and senseless"? Are you saying that by adding the element of romance to D/s it would cause abuse??

I am afraid that your ability to clearly state your thoughts is interfering with having a fruitful dialogue.


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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:34:35 AM   
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And do you "know" this goose?


Jeff


she is my domme

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:35:55 AM   
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well that is a vivid explication, that one sentence there, of the romance v reality question.



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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:39:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

quote:

I was going to try and respond to each of your sentences, but decided that you are too obtuse and contradictory to do so. You can post on every board on CM, but you really do not make any sense.  I have seen one or two posts of yours that are slightly amusing, but most are just random thoughts posted to seek attention.


so things you disagree with are abuse and senseless?


No. I disagree with your generic comments about submissives and how they need to be protected from big, bad Doms. I disagree with your comments that love is overrated and that romance is overrated. I disagree with all your generalizations about relationships since there are as many types of relationships that work, and as many reasons why they do not work, as there are snowflakes.

I also disagree with your methods of communication...you post fragments of ideas, posted as questions and none of them are very clear at all. I also do not see where morality has anything to do with the discussion.

For example, what do you mean "abuse and senseless"? Are you saying that by adding the element of romance to D/s it would cause abuse??

I am afraid that your ability to clearly state your thoughts is interfering with having a fruitful dialogue.


quote:

No. I disagree with your generic comments about submissives and how they need to be protected from big, bad Doms. I disagree with your comments that love is overrated and that romance is overrated. I disagree with all your generalizations about relationships since there are as many types of relationships that work, and as many reasons why they do not work, as there are snowflakes.

I also disagree with your methods of communication...you post fragments of ideas, posted as questions and none of them are very clear at all. I also do not see where morality has anything to do with the discussion.

For example, what do you mean "abuse and senseless"? Are you saying that by adding the element of romance to D/s it would cause abuse??

I am afraid that your ability to clearly state your thoughts is interfering with having a fruitful dialogue.


sometimes the fragments are intentional

romance about can be deceiving, romance from within is a separate issue



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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:41:03 AM   
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And walking along the edges of TOS?


:)



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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:46:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf


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sometimes the fragments are intentional

romance about can be deceiving, romance from within is a separate issue




See what I mean? You think you are being clever by intentionally truncating your statements and the meaning in your next line is indecipherable.

I will leave the interpretation of your future posts to more learned and interested folk.

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RE: the romance v the reality of d/s - 12/29/2009 8:52:29 AM   
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I will leave the interpretation of your future posts to more learned and interested folk.


thank you

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