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AnimusRex -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 7:09:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sexyred1


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

Pull up your IQ..Your ass is showing.[;)]


Excuse me?? Since my name is in the lower right corner of your post, I assume you are addressing me.

wtf are you referring to?


I don't know, but if you showed your ass and I missed it, I will NOT be a happy camper.



sexyred1 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 7:12:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

That discussion you had with another poster. I just thought it was funny and a little ironic that someone that was boasting about being so smart would stoop to childish antics. 


Oh, right. That guy annoys the shit out of me. And yeah, immaturity escaped and showed itself. C'est la vie.



Icarys -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 7:14:15 PM)

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Oh, right. That guy annoys the shit out of me. And yeah, immaturity escaped and showed itself. C'est la vie.


Intelligence in a female is a beautiful thing when it's wielded in a classy way.



sexyred1 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 7:16:13 PM)

You know what? I agree with you.

When and if you ever lose your cool, I will pay back your kindness in pointing it out. :)



Icarys -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 7:20:46 PM)

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When and if you ever lose your cool, I will pay back your kindness in pointing it out. :)


Have a great New Year Red. Be safe.




sexyred1 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 7:23:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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When and if you ever lose your cool, I will pay back your kindness in pointing it out. :)


Have a great New Year Red. Be safe.





Ditto!



Aynne88 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 7:30:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88
Not delusional hon, just mistaken....you know, human. My deepest regrets.


Now that is an honest and mature reply. You'd have saved yourself so much time 6 pages ago if you'd done that from the beginning. I'm not against self-defense, nor the owning of firearms (unlike your buddy kitten who thinks they should all be destroyed). Truth be told, had you not replied as you did, I was just as likely to come back and ask what model you're holding, as I'm in the market for my next one and open to suggestions.

However, though I am for gun ownership and have owned and will own guns myself, I just don't see the need to give the anti's anything more to bitch about. They are already for taking the guns and revoking our 2nd amendment rights. We fight that by saying we are responsible owners and can own and operate our firearms safely. We shoot ourselves in the foot (no pun intended) when we have a plethora of pics online showing us aiming them at a camera.



It's this model.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://world.guns.ru/handguns/ruger_p90.jpg&imgrefurl=http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg05-e.htm&usg=__pDx0kbFf4HfOhPUDzPeXQnp0XBg=&h=283&w=404&sz=29&hl=en&start=11&um=1&tbnid=51zncfz3jQ5w1M:&tbnh=87&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Druger%2B.45%2Bacp%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1




xssve -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 7:44:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kimveri


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ORIGINAL: xssve
In fact, it apparently remains a Gorean paradise.


WHY the fuck you think that's got a gawddamned thing to do with actual Goreans, I have no clue.

But you ARE doing a good job of presenting yourself as an example of unfounded, unreasonable, ignorant hatred...yet another misoGorist.

That was end of it, I regretted it the instant I hit the OK button, but frankly the whole thing is a Gorean moral fable: the mutiny to begin with, the resulting fracas, their inbred descendant's turning it into a slave state, shit, it is Gor.

And I'll be happy to drop it at that, YKINMK, consider it my opinion, and I won't bore you with the details - I'm all for female submission and all that and I've been known to construct some pretty elaborate fantasies myself, I'm just saying that as the basis for any kind of genuine political system it's got a few obvious flaws - and I do hear those noises from Gor occasionally.

Maybe it's just my imagination, and correlation does not mean causation and all that, but didn't the world get a lot better in a lot of ways for a lot of people after women got the right to vote?

Anyway, I personally have benefited from some very independent women, and I for one am glad to be able to hear their voice in the public dialogue - my opinion. As a personal philosophy, whatever spins your propeller, I can't say it's any better or worse than 50's household or any other narrative based fetish.

On the grand scale of things I worry about, Goreans don't even make the top 100 - when a Gorean is in a position to appoint a SCOTUS judge, I'll worry about you - Scientology and Randism both have you beat by orders of magnitude in the "20th Century Philosophies based on Science Fiction novels that make you say WTF" department.

Meantime, Happy New Year, on Gor or anywhere else.



Loki45 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 7:53:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88
It's this model.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://world.guns.ru/handguns/ruger_p90.jpg


Not bad, not bad. I was considering a .40 cal Glock for my next purchase, mainly for concealed carry. But then I thought about a nice large caliber revolver for home defense. Sooner or later, I'm sure I'll have both, plus a nice 12-gauge to round them out.



thornhappy -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 8:07:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
That wouldn't fix the problem - it's still possible to send you private messages.


Really? Give it a try and let me know how that works for you. The "private message" icon links to a CM profile. If none exists, you're shit out of luck.


You gots a private message!



Loki45 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 8:28:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
You gots a private message!


Nope, sorry. I don't. You're experiencing the same thing the last person who tried to pm me did. You see that it went....but there's no way for me to check it. The account doesn't exist.



thornhappy -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 8:45:25 PM)

Well, hope you don't protest when people send you pointed, obnoxious stuff in the open, so to speak.  Or derail threads by carrying on a side discussion with you.



Loki45 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 8:53:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
Well, hope you don't protest when people send you pointed, obnoxious stuff in the open, so to speak.  Or derail threads by carrying on a side discussion with you.


What are you talking about? I *am* pointed and obnoxious. It's part of my charm (as evidenced by the plethora of cmails I used to get before closing my account).

That's what cracks me up about the detractors I have on here. They think that by calling me an asshole (or making a thread poll to the fact) they will somehow tell me something I don't know.

I *am* an asshole. I know because I've met me. I've said before....numerous times....that even my friends 'affectionately' refer to me as "ass." But in that comes their respect for my honesty. They know I won't bullshit them like others do. My female friends know that if they ask my opinion something they're wearing, I'm not going to tell them it looks good because I'm trying to get in their pants. If they look like shit, I'll tell them. They admire that. Or they seem to, since they're still my friends.

As for the bit you mentioned about carrying on a side conversation with me. Well, I used to chat online.....a lot. And one bit of wisdom sticks with me from those days -- if you aren't willing to tell me something in the main room, why would I want to pm with you? It's one of the ways the 'regulars' weed out the trolls in internet chat rooms. They're the ones who say nothing in the main channel while trying to hit on every female screen name in pm. If they don't have the balls to say it in the main room, however, why do they think the women will respect them for saying it in private?

In my opinion, the same holds true here. If you have something to say to me, either in dissent or in agreement, say it where it can be seen by everyone. Don't detract from me publicly only to tell me in a cmail that you agree and respect me for sticking to my guns. That's just chickenshit. (And yes, that's happened more times than I can recall.....usually from women too.)



thornhappy -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 9:32:56 PM)

The point of chatting away from the thread is that it can stop derailment, among other things. If two people are going at each other with hammer and tongs and insults besides and thereby disrupting the main thread, it's time to go offline. 

If you don't, generally the mod will come up and encourage it, as seen in the latest marathon on the Gorean board.



Loki45 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 9:45:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
The point of chatting away from the thread is that it can stop derailment, among other things. If two people are going at each other with hammer and tongs and insults besides and thereby disrupting the main thread, it's time to go offline. 

If you don't, generally the mod will come up and encourage it, as seen in the latest marathon on the Gorean board.


That just means one must be careful how they derail. To derail for the occasional side chatter is fine. To derail with constant name calling is not. Now everyone knows I'm no stranger to the school-yard antics. But one thing you'll notice when I am involved, I don't start the school-yard bullshit, but I ain't gonna run from it either.



kittinSol -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 10:24:03 PM)

You talk, but you don't speak. You just intervene. You appear to be soulless. You seem to be, in the end, a rather sad and lonely, human being. You are scared to death of women, because your older sister beat you up in your youth, and because your mama didn't defend you... You seem to have one redeeming feature: you are quite open about your fear of the feminine, so there is hope for you there. If you are ready to address your fear: until you are better, you have my compassion.

I hope, for your sake, that you find a way to get over it. Good luck, loki5/smith117/whateveryournameis.



Loki45 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 10:41:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
You talk, but you don't speak. You just intervene. You appear to be soulless. You seem to be, in the end, a rather sad and lonely, human being.  You seem to have one redeeming feature: you are quite open about your fear of the feminine, so there is hope for you there. If you are ready to address your fear: until you are better, you have my compassion.


The humorous thing about you, is how wrong you are. I was sad and lonely before I became an asshole. Now, I couldn't be happier. It's liberating when you realize your worth isn't based in how the opposite sex views you. And by the way, a complete lack of trust is not the same thing as fear. I will never fear a woman. Yet I will never trust one either.



thornhappy -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 10:51:05 PM)

Are you looking for a relationship with a woman? (can't tell without a profile.)

If so, how will you deal with the mistrust?  The mistrust would give a lot of folks the willies.





kittinSol -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 10:52:16 PM)

You still have my compassion :-) . I hope that you grow, and that you become the person you were meant to be. Good luck: my good feelings are with you.

May you not remain what you are today.




Loki45 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (12/31/2009 10:55:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
You still have my compassion :-) . I hope that you grow, and that you become the person you were meant to be.


I believe I already have. Who I was wasn't getting me anywhere. Since I've changed, I've made several key advances in my own life.



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