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thornhappy -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 3:33:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23 I'm 33, but we're less than three weeks from 34. Aquarius. It's painfully obvious what's been happening here. ~ Madame Irma Geez, kittin. I'm aqueerian, fer chrissakes!

Aynne88 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 3:38:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23 quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 Feel better now? Ok, take a deep breath and count to 10. Ok, let me get you some milk and cookies and your blankie. I think the toddler needs his nap. I'm not surprised your kid is retarded, given who its mother is. You know what Psychonaut? That is I believe the most ignorant and cruel thing I have read on here, I missed it because unlike you I have to work all day being an unethical salesperson, but that is a motherfucking asshole comment and now it's really on. Lushy is so above you just on a human level, not to mention as a wonderful mother, and I don't want to even fathom why you hate women, but I am willing to bet it was some ugly shit in your childhood. For you to say that, all bets are off, I am a bitch, and I am sick of your ignorance. You disgust me, and you are so incredibly pathetic that any sadness I had for you is now gone, I find you reprehensible.

windchymes -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 3:39:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23 I'm 33, but we're less than three weeks from 34. Aquarius. It's painfully obvious what's been happening here. ~ Madame Irma A hairy ass, you say?

lusciouslips19 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 3:40:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thornhappy quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23 I'm 33, but we're less than three weeks from 34. Aquarius. It's painfully obvious what's been happening here. ~ Madame Irma Geez, kittin. I'm aqueerian, fer chrissakes! Im on the Aires Taurus cusp 4/20. All the crazy shit is done that day and crazy egomaniacs have been born that day. Plus we know what a 4-20 is! [:D] Never underestimate the power of 420... There are many who have underestimated me once. They dont do it twice though.[;)]

Romaniprincess -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 3:40:27 PM)
Sorry, I only joined this site a few hours ago but I just HAD to post in response to the original message. In the first place, I'm a dominant woman - that doesn't make me a misandrist. I don't hate men; I just happen to prefer to be top dog. I'm also married and my hubby is a submissive man who's quite happy letting me run the show which is just as well really because on the rare occasions he tries to take control he makes a real mess of things.. I love my husband and yet I make him submit to me - psychologically, physically, and in every way. I don't, for example, spank his butt or slap his face because I hate or despise him; I do it because it's part of the spice in our marriage. Now for a few more general points. There are lesbians in the BDSM scene who only interact with female partners - do THEY hate women? There are bis who swing both ways and there are also switches (straight, gay and bi, actually.) How do you explain THEIR behaviour as coming out of either misogyny or misandry? Even if we're talking about male dom rather than femdom, the principle still applies. I doubt very much if those guys hate women any more than most of us female supremacists hate men. I've met quite a few of both - especially at some kink places in Britain - and so far I've only come across two - one man and one woman - who struck me as being maybe just a bit dodgy. Sure, controversy is the stuff of message boards and without it they can get boring but on THIS particular issue you're making a wild assumption based on what my hubby (a former university lecturer) would call 'insufficient evidence.'

kittinSol -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 3:41:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thornhappy quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23 I'm 33, but we're less than three weeks from 34. Aquarius. It's painfully obvious what's been happening here. ~ Madame Irma Geez, kittin. I'm aqueerian, fer chrissakes! An exceptional one too, thorny... no, I thought I may as well throw astrology into the burning pyre. Who knows? It might really wind some people up.

sexyred1 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 3:43:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 quote: ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23 quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 Feel better now? Ok, take a deep breath and count to 10. Ok, let me get you some milk and cookies and your blankie. I think the toddler needs his nap. I'm not surprised your kid is retarded, given who its mother is. You know what Psychonaut? That is I believe the most ignorant and cruel thing I have read on here, I missed it because unlike you I have to work all day being an unethical salesperson, but that is a motherfucking asshole comment and now it's really on. Lushy is so above you just on a human level, not to mention as a wonderful mother, and I don't want to even fathom why you hate women, but I am willing to bet it was some ugly shit in your childhood. For you to say that, all bets are off, I am a bitch, and I am sick of your ignorance. You disgust me, and you are so incredibly pathetic that any sadness I had for you is now gone, I find you reprehensible. Hon, didn't you read his explanation of his abusive childhood above? Like that ever happened. Some people are born pathetic. And yes, Lushy handled him as she always does, a lady.

lusciouslips19 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 3:45:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Romaniprincess Sorry, I only joined this site a few hours ago but I just HAD to post in response to the original message. In the first place, I'm a dominant woman - that doesn't make me a misandrist. I don't hate men; I just happen to prefer to be top dog. I'm also married and my hubby is a submissive man who's quite happy letting me run the show which is just as well really because on the rare occasions he tries to take control he makes a real mess of things.. I love my husband and yet I make him submit to me - psychologically, physically, and in every way. I don't, for example, spank his butt or slap his face because I hate or despise him; I do it because it's part of the spice in our marriage. Now for a few more general points. There are lesbians in the BDSM scene who only interact with female partners - do THEY hate women? There are bis who swing both ways and there are also switches (straight, gay and bi, actually.) How do you explain THEIR behaviour as coming out of either misogyny or misandry? Even if we're talking about male dom rather than femdom, the principle still applies. I doubt very much if those guys hate women any more than most of us female supremacists hate men. I've met quite a few of both - especially at some kink places in Britain - and so far I've only come across two - one man and one woman - who struck me as being maybe just a bit dodgy. Sure, controversy is the stuff of message boards and without it they can get boring but on THIS particular issue you're making a wild assumption based on what my hubby (a former university lecturer) would call 'insufficient evidence.' What a well thought out and thoughtful post on the topic. Thanks! WHat a refreshing P.O.V. Welcome to the boards. We look forward to many more thought and intelligent posts by you!

Aynne88 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 3:47:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sexyred1 quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 quote: ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23 quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 Feel better now? Ok, take a deep breath and count to 10. Ok, let me get you some milk and cookies and your blankie. I think the toddler needs his nap. I'm not surprised your kid is retarded, given who its mother is. You know what Psychonaut? That is I believe the most ignorant and cruel thing I have read on here, I missed it because unlike you I have to work all day being an unethical salesperson, but that is a motherfucking asshole comment and now it's really on. Lushy is so above you just on a human level, not to mention as a wonderful mother, and I don't want to even fathom why you hate women, but I am willing to bet it was some ugly shit in your childhood. For you to say that, all bets are off, I am a bitch, and I am sick of your ignorance. You disgust me, and you are so incredibly pathetic that any sadness I had for you is now gone, I find you reprehensible. Hon, didn't you read his explanation of his abusive childhood above? Like that ever happened. Some people are born pathetic. And yes, Lushy handled him as she always does, a lady. Yes she is always a lady, and sometimes one's childhood does not excuse their asshole adult behavior. Born pathetic, true that.

Aynne88 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 3:57:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23 quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 You know what's funny? I almost never agree with Bull on anything, but I grudgingly respect him [;)], and Orion is equally intelligent, so for you to resort to some kind of ad hominem attack regarding homosexuality on a very open sexual site, just shows your judgmental personality. Gay prison flick? Wow....easy to say behind the anonymity of the keyboard big guy huh? I wasn't saying it was bad thing that it was like a gay prison flick. Just noting that it was. Now back to suburbia with you! Suburbia? What's that, some kind of jealousy inspired insult because you perceive I have a pampered princess life, or that I am sheltered, or that I am too stupid i.e. Stepford to engage you? All 3 wrong. I am the anti-suburban woman, that is why I live the way I do, on the edge, childless, unmarried, all by choice, because suburbia as I think you intend it mean is anathema to me. Try again Radio Shack.

kittinSol -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 4:06:02 PM)
Ah, come on now... we all need love, even - no, especially - Psychautroll. The man is desperate for affection, but as he seems unable to get any, he is getting off on negative attention, like a little child, for whom negative attention is better than parental indifference. This is why toddlers have tantrums and roll around on the floor at the supermarket when mummy and daddy are zombying around the aisles. Psychaunaughty, I genuinely feel for you, because I don't believe for one minute that you're truly enjoying any of this. I think you got dragged into a spiral of negativity that is partly of your own making. Unable as you were to detangle yourself from it, because of your large ego, you have decided to sabotage your own show rather than admit you might have been wrong. Many here will probably disagree with me, but I feel that you need sympathy more than many of us; because only the truly desperate would ever act the way you have.

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 4:19:02 PM)
Not sure how many will get this, but I feel that he resembles a Wilhelm Reich description of a personaility type. The other more straight forward may be he is an ICD-10, or some may recognize it as a 301.83.

Aynne88 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 4:25:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Ah, come on now... we all need love, even - no, especially - Psychautroll. The man is desperate for affection, but as he seems unable to get any, he is getting off on negative attention, like a little child, for whom negative attention is better than parental indifference. This is why toddlers have tantrums and roll around on the floor at the supermarket when mummy and daddy are zombying around the aisles. Psychaunaughty, I genuinely feel for you, because I don't believe for one minute that you're truly enjoying any of this. I think you got dragged into a spiral of negativity that is partly of your own making. Unable as you were to detangle yourself from it, because of your large ego, you have decided to sabotage your own show rather than admit you might have been wrong. Many here will probably disagree with me, but I feel that you need sympathy more than many of us; because only the truly desperate would ever act the way you have. Kittin you know how much I love and respect you, and I am partially in agreement with you, but that comment re: Lushy's child....nope. He lost any sympathy or at least any reasoning on my part due to sympathy. That was so uncalled for.

xBullx -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 4:35:44 PM)
You made me laugh.....that's awesome! quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff Careful there Red... I know shit about you that isn't even true! Jeff

xBullx -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 4:44:12 PM)
This woman is on topic.... [sm=jaw.gif] quote: ORIGINAL: Romaniprincess Sorry, I only joined this site a few hours ago but I just HAD to post in response to the original message. In the first place, I'm a dominant woman - that doesn't make me a misandrist. I don't hate men; I just happen to prefer to be top dog. I'm also married and my hubby is a submissive man who's quite happy letting me run the show which is just as well really because on the rare occasions he tries to take control he makes a real mess of things.. I love my husband and yet I make him submit to me - psychologically, physically, and in every way. I don't, for example, spank his butt or slap his face because I hate or despise him; I do it because it's part of the spice in our marriage. Now for a few more general points. There are lesbians in the BDSM scene who only interact with female partners - do THEY hate women? There are bis who swing both ways and there are also switches (straight, gay and bi, actually.) How do you explain THEIR behaviour as coming out of either misogyny or misandry? Even if we're talking about male dom rather than femdom, the principle still applies. I doubt very much if those guys hate women any more than most of us female supremacists hate men. I've met quite a few of both - especially at some kink places in Britain - and so far I've only come across two - one man and one woman - who struck me as being maybe just a bit dodgy. Sure, controversy is the stuff of message boards and without it they can get boring but on THIS particular issue you're making a wild assumption based on what my hubby (a former university lecturer) would call 'insufficient evidence.'

lusciouslips19 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 4:48:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Ah, come on now... we all need love, even - no, especially - Psychautroll. The man is desperate for affection, but as he seems unable to get any, he is getting off on negative attention, like a little child, for whom negative attention is better than parental indifference. This is why toddlers have tantrums and roll around on the floor at the supermarket when mummy and daddy are zombying around the aisles. Psychaunaughty, I genuinely feel for you, because I don't believe for one minute that you're truly enjoying any of this. I think you got dragged into a spiral of negativity that is partly of your own making. Unable as you were to detangle yourself from it, because of your large ego, you have decided to sabotage your own show rather than admit you might have been wrong. Many here will probably disagree with me, but I feel that you need sympathy more than many of us; because only the truly desperate would ever act the way you have. Kittin you know how much I love and respect you, and I am partially in agreement with you, but that comment re: Lushy's child....nope. He lost any sympathy or at least any reasoning on my part due to sympathy. That was so uncalled for. Be fair Aynne, Really, hes called me an "idiot", but he knows not what he is dealing with. Do you really think I didnt know what the result would be when I offered him milk and cookies and a blankie and called him a toddler? I insulted his manhood(just like that mean ole dad). I knew there would be big fall out. I baited him. I play the game better then him and hes too stupid to realize it. Just like when I said all those things and said i feel for him and said I would pray for him. That was patronizing, Again he lost his cool and I maintained mine. For someone whos so into the "mindfuck", he seriously doesnt get it. Remember what I have aways said Aynne? Let them think youre a sweet ditz, they'll never even know you taken the strap-on to their ass and they'll offer to help you to your car after.[:D]

Aynne88 -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 4:55:27 PM)
Well, maybe the strap on, but he can crawl to the car. Or in his case I bet the minivan circa 1991.

sappatoti -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 5:08:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23 First of all, everyone who has been on the internet more than 15 minutes knows that sarcasm doesn't translate on the internet. Not entirely true. Sarcasm translates very well on the internet. All it takes is one who understands how bend it to fit the medium. Damn whippersnappers. Give them a keyboard and they think they know what they're doing.

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 5:09:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage How can anyone not believe they put a man on the moon? I don't believe the 9/11 attacks were committed by Al Queda. But no one really cares about that. If they were, the Cheney admin was completely compliant. Loose Change Thanks for the link. I just finished watching the film and all I can say is WOW! Everybody, but everybody should watch this, what an eyeopener.

VaguelyCurious -> RE: Misogyny and BDSM (1/7/2010 5:12:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23 quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 Too stupid to know I was being completely sarcastic?? Whos an idiot now??? First of all, everyone who has been on the internet more than 15 minutes knows that sarcasm doesn't translate on the internet. Second of all, many stupid people have said what you said in all seriousness. Many people on this thread have even made very similar accusations. And you've done nothing to convince me you aren't an armchair analyzing pinhead, with your inane Aspergers theory. What possible reason would I have to assume sarcasm from that comment? I smell backpedaling. Did the part where she promised to pray for you not tip you off? I picked up the sarcasm perfectly well myself, but then I am English...

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