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RE: Silly comment - 1/7/2010 7:06:11 AM

LillyoftheVally

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ORIGINAL: Callisto643
I believe dominant women are strong

Not to be nitpicky, ok to be nitpicky but if this statement were true it wouldn't stop the women from being strong.

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Why be in the scene if you have no respect for the other players?

Why be a human if you don't respect other humans? Anyways having this type of opinion isn't really about respect its just about having a theory, one that I personally do not agree with in general but a theory none the less.

However, having said that there are a million motivations for the oriantations and christ knows not all of them are warm lovely fluffy ones about how 'in our nature' it is so it probably is the case for some dominants.

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RE: Silly comment - 1/7/2010 7:07:57 AM

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I tend to believe that a significant portion of straight male dominants are essentially service tops even though they would likely disagree and might even be irked by the assertion. It's just one person's opinion. Deal with it. You are irked by this other person's opinion. I am irked that you seem to have no respect for her right to have her opinion.

There. Now we're all suitably irked.

Well, when you put it that way! Actually, an interesting thought. What are you (generically) if you are not caring about someone's happiness except your own? A selfish pig? I doubt that is a bdsm category of much respect let alone a respectful category within humanity. So, good point. Everyone in wiitwd is servicing someone from either the top or bottom, or they are users and abusers and not really what we are about. Don't hit me for generalizing here....unless the cane is flexible.

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RE: Silly comment - 1/7/2010 7:13:10 AM

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Why be in the scene if you have no respect for the other players?

some folks have "disrepectful to others" as their default setting...others must EARN their respect in some way or it just isn't given. it isn't something this slave subscribes to, just noticed it from time to time...but to each their own.

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RE: Silly comment - 1/7/2010 7:51:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: Callisto643

I read somewhere that this submissive girl felt that dominant females are just alpha subs. I felt this was a flawed statement, assuming that the female really isn't getting what she wanted, and I couldn't disagree more. I believe dominant women are strong and know what they like and through this they find subs who complement their wants, thus creating two satisfied parties. Any thoughts? I don't know why, but this type of comment irks me. Why be in the scene if you have no respect for the other players?

In my opinion there are no lines that divide who I am: only the edges of boxes I am forved to fill in when describing myself on any sort of site.
My dynamics are a product of the relationships I am in. And sure I described myself as a slave for a long while and yet there is only one person with whom I have ever been happy as a slave. And he also understands that I am a dominant woman, that I am an alpha slave and so on. Indeed I have done things to him that would also classify me as his Mommy yet he remains a Master.
Some need their bdsm to be prescriptive. Especially when they are starting out. They need clear cut roles. protocols. Codes of conduct. Safe words. Dress style. I need none of those.
My experience as an alpha slave has come from sceneing in a group. I have 'turned' a previous straight chick towards the delights of lesbian play because I had been instructed to. I have also had relationships where I have been dominant to both men and women and decided for myself what the scene was about. So I am very clear of the distinction between alpha slave and dominant and indeed top.
I don' know whence clarity comes. For me in happens in retrospect as i am too involved and off my head in sensation play to give it much intellectual attention when I am with someone.
I'm currently in the decision ball park and behaving as a dominant woman to a man who is otherwise dominant with all the other women he knows except for me. He keeps coming back and obviously needs what he feels I can give him. We are both out of our prescriptive boxes. And that's fine.
Nothing irks me except lack of integrity.

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RE: Silly comment - 1/7/2010 8:06:25 AM

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I have witnessed it happen in both ways. The Domme who one day met a man who she felt compelled to surrender to and went from a long time Domme with a heavy following to a completely surrendered slave with no real desire to continue dominating anymore.

I have also seen submissives that were handed a flogger and within a few months showed no sign of being a submissive ever again.

I have met Dominant Men who would be better suited as submissives to their own submissives.

The thing about opinion is that they always come from a selective point of view. Depending on the circles you travel in I can see all of the statements being valid to some degree or another.

Dominant Men are service tops who need do what they do to be happy.
Dominant Women just havent found the right man who push on submissive men until one pushes back.
submissive women haven't found their rightful place as Mistresses.
submissive men have lost thier balls and when they find them again will see thier rightful place as Doms.

It is all a perspective thing.

I think we are all submissive to one thing or another in our lives and no matter how big we puff our chests we still surrender to one thing or another in life..... or we suffer for it.

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RE: Silly comment - 1/7/2010 9:45:44 AM

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Dominant Men are service tops who need do what they do to be happy.
Dominant Women just havent found the right man who push on submissive men until one pushes back.
submissive women haven't found their rightful place as Mistresses.
submissive men have lost thier balls and when they find them again will see thier rightful place as Doms.

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U kive this so just wanted it to be seen again.
Well said.

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RE: Silly comment - 1/7/2010 11:12:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: Callisto643

I read somewhere that this submissive girl felt that dominant females are just alpha subs. I felt this was a flawed statement, assuming that the female really isn't getting what she wanted, and I couldn't disagree more. I believe dominant women are strong and know what they like and through this they find subs who complement their wants, thus creating two satisfied parties. Any thoughts? I don't know why, but this type of comment irks me. Why be in the scene if you have no respect for the other players?

While I disagree with the statement, I won't go as far as to say that a person's views, although different must be seen as disrespectful.

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RE: Silly comment - 1/7/2010 11:46:36 AM

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I don't agree with her opinion that I am an alpha sub. But she has a right to her opinion, just like everyone else.

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