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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/7/2004 10:17:45 AM   
perverseangelic


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ORIGINAL: MsGenevieve

I was wondering who out there also puts their slaves on a physical fitness goal? Or if you are a slave, if your Mistress pushes you to better your physique not just for her own pleasure of a well sculpted slave but for the sake of your health?


THis is something I personally avoided when I was looking for partners. I am not as physically fit as I'd like to be, but that cycles with my mood and with the seasons. It took me a VERY long time to be comfortable with my body, and to be with a partner who was not happy with me unless I changed that body would be devastating to my self-esteem.

I understand that that isn't what your saying, but to me, having a partner who demands I alter my physical activity/go on a diet/change my excercise plan is the same as saying "you are not good enough as you are' (irrational, but that's how I read it) and that's something I simply can't take without being very very hurt.

I've had enough of my mother telling me as a child that "We're worried about your heart" and "carring that much weight isn't safe for your joints" that I never, ever want to hear it again, no matter what the reason is. To me, no matter what the intenet, it will -always- sound hurtful and cruel.

(Incedentally, when I was a kid, comments like that were totally undeserved, as while I was slightly overweight, I was a competative dancer/performer and -very- fit and active. Now, well, they might be more true :) but heck...)

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/7/2004 12:45:32 PM   
playfullkitty69


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Status: offline 		Well..i am a big girl...and hope that the Master i get will love me for who i am...though i do agree he should want to also see me healthy...and taking that into consideration...guiding me towards proper choices.... helping me to get more excercise...but i feel if this becomes a must or a rule...at least for this issue, it would only harm me mentally....

just my 2 cents worth.

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/9/2004 11:58:16 AM   
ProLezDommes


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Status: offline 		Ok this is a little different from what the others have said but...We recently ran across a boy (actully a client) Well in telling us about his experience he mentioned a previous Mistress who liked to make him starve for up to a week, she also would make him throw up his food when he did eat. Now first i'll point out he is VERY thin and older. This brought out a rather strong emotional reaction since i care so much about the beauty of one handing over complete control, i think you should do whats best for the sub when they trust you like that. Anyway i didnt say anything and he later asked if i liked the idea, i told him my feelings on it, and asked if he'd like to undergo so extensive training out side of session time (he is a wonderful sub, the most potental i've ever seen) he agreed so im starting a "diet" i want him to eat healthy and in a way to gain some pounds, i also want him exercising, he loves the idea i would just like any feed back or ideas on how best to do this...
Erin

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/9/2004 3:55:13 PM   
LadyAngelika


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with grades, get a low pain flogger for rote-memerzation, like um..spelling (gee mebbe someone needs to do this with me) then whip with each letter spelled and end the scene


*raises her hand*

Oh and you should also see me teaching French <veeery weg>

- LA

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/9/2004 4:26:48 PM   
siamsa24


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Status: offline 		ProLezDommes,
If you are interested, the next time I go home I could write up a diet plan for him (I am a certified Chef with a focus in diet and meal planning). If this would be helpful, let me know.

siamsa

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/10/2004 6:11:22 AM   
WayHome


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ORIGINAL: ProLezDommes
...We recently ran across a boy (actully a client)...


What a great situation! He's already proven that he is willing and capable of following direction day-to-day on his own and now you get to turn that into something healthy instead of something destructive while still fulfilling his need for control. Life is good.

Leto

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/10/2004 7:15:42 AM   
subbieslut


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I think women are often less hung up on weight


I agree with you completly. I for one, look at the inside of someone, that is where the TRUE beauty hides. For example, I know this girl who is attractive on the outside but lacks a soul on the inside, looks can be very decieving. The old saying holds sooo true, don't judge a book by its cover.

hummblely,
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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/10/2004 8:09:58 AM   
WayHome


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I agree with you completly. I for one, look at the inside of someone, that is where the TRUE beauty hides. For example, I know this girl who is attractive on the outside but lacks a soul on the inside, looks can be very decieving. The old saying holds sooo true, don't judge a book by its cover.

hummblely,
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LOL.
Welcome to your first post on collame.

Attractive on the outside, huh? You just like her new boobs :-)
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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/10/2004 8:53:13 AM   
MrThorns


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Status: offline 		It has been my experience that someone who takes charge of their own physical fitness tends to be more successful in achieving their goals and has a greater amount of pride in themselves once they achieve their goal. I see my role as providing encouragement for my slave's choice to improve her physical fitness and incentives for her once she reaches certain milestones.

I know that I can direct her to eat a certain way and exercise so many times a week, but in a lot of ways I see this as possibly setting her up for failure by adding additional stress upon her as she tries to accomplish her fitness goals.

She knows that I love her just the way she is, but I will do whatever I can to assist her in achieving the goals she has set for herself. So far, this is the method that has worked for my slave and we are pretty happy with the arrangement.

~Thorns

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/10/2004 10:05:00 AM   
Zarathustra


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Status: offline 		Thank you both siamsa and way home. I would love your help siamsa!!! ANd i thought the same as you WayHome, i think it will work out well. Also i want LA to teach me french!!!

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/10/2004 11:12:00 AM   
siamsa24


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Status: offline 		I think I am going home this weekend and will pick up my menu planning items and get a plan to you hopefully by the beginning of next week.

Are you looking for him to get bulkier or just toned? Or do you simply want him to achieve a healthy weight and stay there?
Also, what is is age and current wieght? and what is his target weight?

I am aware that this is sensative information, but I will need it to develop an appropriate meal plan for him. Feel free to e-mail it to me either through this site or directly at [email protected]

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/10/2004 2:55:47 PM   
sting516


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

*raises her hand*

Oh and you should also see me teaching French <veeery weg>

- LA


Sacre bleu!! i'd love to learn!!!


sting

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/11/2004 9:12:02 PM   
Sinergy


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I was wondering who out there also puts their slaves on a physical fitness goal?


Im not sure if it is a goal, per se, but if she cannot keep up with me Swing dancing 7 nights a week Im not sure the relationship will last.

sinergy

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/12/2004 4:59:48 PM   
subbieslut


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You just like her new boobs :-)


I bet you think your a "funny" lil monkey!!!!!!! Ok, maybe I did not get it the first time but I got it this time:P


It is true though, I like to see its not only pink on the inside, the soul does count.

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/12/2004 6:19:59 PM   
WayHome


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Status: offline 		Of course souls count, as long as they are pretty pink souls of ideal weight with nice boobies....

Thing is, even a joke like that will lead a lot of women to second guess whether they look good enough.


Leto the Funny Monkey

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/12/2004 6:28:18 PM   
sting516


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ORIGINAL: WayHome

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ORIGINAL: NoCalOwner


But she doesn't think she's sexy or thin enough for her own sake. This means that some activities we might otherwise enjoy get curtailed. For example, she has a bit of an exhibitionist streak but it doesn't get expressed because she doesn't think people would want to look.

Leto


i can relate to what she's going through...i used to be in killer shape, but now am about 50 lbs overweight...and while i used to love to play at clubs and parties, now i'm self conscious about my own weight...so i'm less likely to enjoy such a thing.

sting

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/12/2004 6:42:34 PM   
Sundew02


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Status: offline 		sting, Have you thought about getting back out there vanilla and doing martial arts exercises? I was disapointed to learn that I can't do repeatitive wt lifting. But a friend showed me an interesting hand and arm exercise that consists of wadding up a page from the news paper using one hand. I ride my stationary bike and eat intelligently. Still would call myself "plump" laughing, but oh do I love to go and do. Sundew

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RE: personal training and BDSM personal training - 9/12/2004 7:35:53 PM   
realophelia


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Status: offline 		I have done weight reduction with my current Master, as well my previous Dom. I am of average weight but wanted to lose ten pounds in both cases. At this point I am still ten pounds over :( With my last Dom I was also expected to maintain a certain grade point average in night school. I find this kind of thing helpful, but also very anxiety provoking.

Take care :)
Ophelia

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