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WinsomeDefiance -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 6:42:25 PM)

Aww come on, who hasn't seen THIS look at your local play party/dungeon?  Truman Capote has it going on!

[image]http://www.swisseduc.ch/english/readinglist/capote_truman/icons/capote.jpg[/image]




Level -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 6:44:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I actually thanked her for that on the thread. She never responded. Wonder why... [8|]


She was too busy organizing the "slaves/gladiators" thing she kept babbling about. [8D]




Level -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 6:47:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: stef
Holy shit, you're Truman Capote!

Truman Capote was gay.



Anyone that made Gore Vidal look manly...




AquaticSub -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 6:57:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level


quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I actually thanked her for that on the thread. She never responded. Wonder why... [8|]


She was too busy organizing the "slaves/gladiators" thing she kept babbling about. [8D]


LOL. I don't recall that particular one.




AnimusRex -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 7:47:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: masterofholly
So you want a submissive? A real one?  There is one foolproof way to make that happen. BE THE TYPE OF DOMINANT A SUBMISSIVE WANTS.


But I have been sending out cock pics all damn day!

Jeezus, what else do I have to do?




xxblushesxx -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:11:20 PM)

Cum erm..come up with a buncha rules fer us here subbies to follow...




Aynne88 -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:26:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

Oh sexy Winsome, I love to smoke. I know, it can be gross, and my Sir doesn't, but when I have three or more martini's, ohhh I need that cigarette, it is almost ridiculous how I want one. However, I don't allow it in my house, or car, and I might smoke 10 a week, and I do have nice white teeth. I guess I answered this because I hate the stereotype of stinky brown toothed smokers, some of us really do it in moderation. After a nice meal, and a few drinks> light me up please. [;)]. I will use the white strips tomorrow I promise![8D].  


aww!  (HUGS)  You do have a beautiful smile.  Stereotype corrected!  [:)]



No no lovely winsome, you were right, I am one of those shameful smokers and I hate it, I just wanted to make a point that some of us are bright of smile *although dull of mind to keep smoking!) and I do keep my home and clothing smoke free, I go to wierd lengths to ensure it. My purse and car are full of febreeze, tictacs, handiwipes, perfume, small mouthwash bottles, I know, silly, but I am loathe to smell like smoke. I am almost *almost* ready to quit. You gave me yet another nudge, so thanks sweetie. [:D].  I am one of those hanger on'ers that loves a smoke after a good meal or with a cocktail, I admit. I porbably need a hard apsnking for that! Right Now DAMNIT! [8D]. 




sexyred1 -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:38:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


quote:

ORIGINAL: masterofholly
So you want a submissive? A real one?  There is one foolproof way to make that happen. BE THE TYPE OF DOMINANT A SUBMISSIVE WANTS.


But I have been sending out cock pics all damn day!

Jeezus, what else do I have to do?


Quickly checks emails...goes through cock pics...nope, yours seems to be missing. Please resend immediately to www.normallyhatescockpicsbutinthiscasemakesexception.com.




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 8:55:07 PM)

As sexyred said, resend please.  Perhaps they aren't going through.  Is the pic to umm...big?  They do have size limits on what can be attached or uploaded. (snickers)




heartcream -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 9:20:00 PM)

How do ya bump a thread?
(o_O)




lovingpet -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 9:22:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heartcream

How do ya bump a thread?
(o_O)


Have a really big ass?




LonDom61 -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 9:24:09 PM)

Dunno what this has to do with the OP. I clicked on the blue box on the other side. I see we're up to pg 18.  I'll have to go back to the start.  But meanwhile, here's something that works for me...

To Aynne88:

I'm a smoker. My girl hates it. I too have found a way not to smell like an ashtray. I don't smoke cigarettes; haven't for years (way before relationship started).  I smoke from a water pipe.  Yes, tobacco from a "bong".  I've got a big one at home and a tiny one (called an AquaPipe--sorta like a tobacco pipe, but the stem folds down) for out of the house.

It's supposed to take about 3x more tar out. I smoke once an hour or so, but it only adds up to about equal to 5 or 6 cigs a day...so I spend about a buck a day.  No "blow back" thru a porous cig filter to get on my hands, face and clothes. And, after washing my hands & a mint or quick swish of mouthwash, I'm as sweet as a non-smoker.






AquaticSub -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 9:34:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heartcream

How do ya bump a thread?
(o_O)


It's when a thread is off the front page, or very nearly so. You post on it so it is taken to the top again. You see the term used more in groups where the mods will deliberately bump a thread to the top so that more people read it.




LonDom61 -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/12/2010 10:11:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf


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ORIGINAL: subtee

You know, you had a HUGE supporter who ripped me a new one, just about this topic you've brought up. She was on the other side. You didn't say anything to defend my position that not all submissives are "high maintenance."

Man.


i dont understand


Okay, I came late to the thread. Commented on a smoking thing. Now I've read thru the thread, so I'll comment on the OP.

Note: I am not one to pick fights, sling crap or insult ANYone here.  I have NEVER done so.

Until now.

osf, you've talked a lot of smack here, which I'll get to in a bit. But I think you summed yourself up nicely with that statement.

No, you don't understand. You don't get it.

You seem to think
- that your way is the only way.
- that others, no matter how sincere or informed their comments are, are complete idiots
- that a generalization, based on your own (I'm guessing limited) experience, are gospel and not to be questioned
- that contempt for women is somehow a trait they'll be attracted to
- that "twoo d/s" (okay, you called it "real"...I'm guessing as compared to the fake kind that all the rest of us play at?) should be non-negotiated
- the original point: that s-types are higher maintenance than nilla ones, when the opposite is FAR more often the case

You justify your choice of profile pic by saying such shoes are appropriate for the farm. 1) I'd think something rubber might be better so you could easily wash the sh*t off (which I think I'm gonna need to do once I finish this reply.  I feel soiled just reading your crap)
2) Okay, maybe their sensible footwear for your job. But how does THAT make one velcro shoe and a goose--man, I'm not even gonna START on what the goose means--a good choice to represent you on a kinky singles site?  Are you making a statement? Is the statement "I wear old people shoes...and I have a goose"?

Yoiu "had one lately who wanted more than you were willing lol".

You're suggesting she wanted more extreme treatment than you were willing to provide.  I think it more likely--if she existed at all--she might have wanted more than you were willing...like more respect, etc. than you were willing to give.

I loved the comment someone made about how do you get a submissive... By being the kind of Dom a submissive woman wants.

And InvisibleBlack made some great points:
quote:
No... I think he's saying that keeping a woman in that circumstance - in a cage, fed like an animal, locked in your dungeon, etc. etc. is extremely high maintenance ... and he's right. Think about it - you've got to shell out to build your dungeon, get one of those uber-big cages you can lock people in, clean it and the sub, feed the sub - it's real work. And it's time-consuming. And it's expensive.

If the relationship is "non-negotiated" it's even more work. Kidnapping someone and holding them against their will is even more expensive and time consuming. Not to mention Clarice Starling and the FBI knocking on your door and asking awkward questions.

If that's his thesis, he's right - a vanilla relationship would be less work and effort for the Dom.

It's just that seems so self-evident I don't know why it needs to even be stated.

= = =

Okay, LD talking again. Go to "mast"; what did you call it? A nationicity or something? wtf?
But go somewhere.  Stop squicking our wimmins & wasting our time. 





sirsholly -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/13/2010 1:52:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet


quote:

ORIGINAL: heartcream

How do ya bump a thread?
(o_O)


Have a really big ass?
i hate you

<<<goes for paper towels to clean up the keyboard...lubs you again when the mess is gone




AquaticSub -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/13/2010 2:04:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LonDom61

Stop squicking our wimmins & wasting our time. 




I.... I feel the need to hug you now.

Regardless of the context, I just love that phrase. It's so protective and yet silly at the same time. [:)]




Level -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/13/2010 2:50:29 AM)

I thought he said "stop squeezing our lemons". [8|]

*holds out arms for my hugs*




AquaticSub -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/13/2010 3:08:04 AM)

Fine... but only because I have a major soft spot for lemonaide! [:D]




DesFIP -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/13/2010 4:28:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

quote:

ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

Oh sexy Winsome, I love to smoke. I know, it can be gross, and my Sir doesn't, but when I have three or more martini's, ohhh I need that cigarette, it is almost ridiculous how I want one. However, I don't allow it in my house, or car, and I might smoke 10 a week, and I do have nice white teeth. I guess I answered this because I hate the stereotype of stinky brown toothed smokers, some of us really do it in moderation. After a nice meal, and a few drinks> light me up please. [;)]. I will use the white strips tomorrow I promise![8D].  


aww!  (HUGS)  You do have a beautiful smile.  Stereotype corrected!  [:)]



No no lovely winsome, you were right, I am one of those shameful smokers and I hate it, I just wanted to make a point that some of us are bright of smile *although dull of mind to keep smoking!) and I do keep my home and clothing smoke free, I go to wierd lengths to ensure it. My purse and car are full of febreeze, tictacs, handiwipes, perfume, small mouthwash bottles, I know, silly, but I am loathe to smell like smoke. I am almost *almost* ready to quit. You gave me yet another nudge, so thanks sweetie. [:D].  I am one of those hanger on'ers that loves a smoke after a good meal or with a cocktail, I admit. I porbably need a hard apsnking for that! Right Now DAMNIT! [8D]. 



Well, we all want a hard spanking for something, [:D]

But I've got to tell you, you are probably still carrying the smoke on your clothes. You are sufficiently used to it that you don't notice a low level of smoke but others will. I'm so allergic to smoke that I get sinus infections from the smoke on my son's clothes after he's been to the house of a smoker. Third hand smoke the ENT calls it.





LadyPact -> RE: why does he want a submissive over a nilla woman (1/13/2010 7:22:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf
it is not my term or my definition,

it comes out of the gay community and has been accepted by the d/s community which appears not to be represented on cm

there is a community of like minded individuals and it's a national org called Masters and slaves together a pansexual org

http://www.mast.net/

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

what i see here is a bunch of people that get together and so they have a partner for some kinky sex and to be seen in dungeons so they can be noticed and respected in the " COMMUNITY"

ok if that's you thing more power to you

i'll tread my own path


osf/bob/oaf the age-shifting dom - While you're deciding how old you are can you also reconcile if you identify with "a community of like minded individuals", (your quoted response concerning the query about the source of the term 'Dom rot'); with the "i'll tread my own path" position concerning the disingenuous "COMMUNITY"?

BTW - Here in LA, MAST often gets together with partners they have or met at dungeons in LA. We've "noticed", been know, and have also been "seen", with them on many occasions. I dare say in those individual instances where we've gotten to know some 'up close and personal' there is a shared and mutual respect.

Do you seek them out as an exception to your position regarding the "community" or do you simply one hand web-surf over to their site for obscure term definitions?

BTW-I'm still have a difficult time finding a reference to 'dom-rot' on their site. There was one trail that I followed, but it turned out to be health related thread regarding an unfortunate MAST member who was hoping to get some advice on how to cure 'crotch-rot'. That's not the same thing - right?

I think some of the people who attend the Venice Beach Munch are active MAST members. We haven't attended since before the holidays and we were planning on attending the one coming up next week. I'll ask them about the term. 'Dom-rot' isn't one of the secret sacred tenets of MAST is it? But of course you wouldn't know that since, as you say, you "tread my own path" in those velcro secured footwear.

If nothing else - it should be a fun discussion. I'll be sure to give you credit and point them to CM and your threads in particular. Maybe it will generate more contacts, if you can get over the fact that they are active in that 'community' you loath.

Just to clear up the MAsT discussion.

Merc is quite correct.  While there absolutely is a yahoo group for Masters And slaves Together, the primary purpose of it's existence is not just to serve as a discussion board.  The majority of the traffic (posts) within that yahoo group is to post information regarding leather events.  The following is taken from the main page of the yahoo group itself.  (Yes, I'm a member of that yahoo group.)

Description This is the general discussion list for Masters and slaves Together, an international organization devoted to providing a safe and welcoming space for all to discuss M/s and MAsT items. MAsT (Masters And slaves Together) is a non-profit organization which exists as an education, support and resource group for individuals involved in, or interested in, the Master/slave lifestyle.

MAsT is over 20 years old and has 30 active chapters in many major
U.S. cities, where monthly meetings are held and members meet and talk, sharing information and learning from each other. MAsT is not, primarly, an Internet group. Some MAsT members and supporters live in M/s relationships, some have in the past, some never have and are actively pursuing this life and some are simply supportive or gathering information. However, many if not most, MAsT members meet and interact at lifestyle/kink/leather events, where MAsT maintains a strong presence. That being said, a willingness or ability to interact face to face is not necessary for MAsT membership or membership on this newsgroup.

The MAsT discussion list is open to anyone and everyone
interested in, supportive of, or investigating the Master/slave
dynamic or D/s relationships. All we ask is common politeness and
decorum. While all lifestyle/kink/leather/D/s related topics will be
welcome, the primary purpose of this group is to allow those who are
directly involved with MAsT (or wish to be) a place to discuss issues
of common interest.

MAsT is an "umbrella" group which supports a diverse community with many different, equally valid, approaches to M/s. Its purpose is to provide cohesion and a place where various groups and events can maintain contact and communication. As such, negative attacks on any lifestyle/kink/leather/D/s focused group or individual will not be tolerated. Please consider this a "politics free" zone.


I hope this helps to clear up the difference between the MAsT groups that actively meet across the country, and the existance of the yahoo group.




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