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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 3:47:30 PM

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Hell the comment he made on ESPN about Donovan McNabb was racist at its core.

You need to learn the definition of racism apparently. It wasnt even close.

Stating that someone is overrated as the media want to see a black quarterback succeed, seems racist enough to me.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 3:50:16 PM

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Well Philo there is a distinction between people who legally took prescribed painkillers and got addicted and criminals. So it is a relevant distinction. Millions ofpeople have had probelms with Pain meds, leagally prescribed for valid reasons.

But thanks for giving me the quote.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 4:01:23 PM

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Well Philo there is a distinction between people who legally took prescribed painkillers and got addicted and criminals. So it is a relevant distinction. Millions ofpeople have had probelms with Pain meds, leagally prescribed for valid reasons.

But thanks for giving me the quote.

...no problems. Thing is, i've never seen or heard of Mr Limbaugh ever making that distinction except in regards to himself.

Personally i agree that there is a distinction between drug abuse as a medical condition and drug abuse fuelled crime. Where i'd depart from Mr Limbaugh is that i don't make that distinction in terms of the substance of choice. i make that distinction on the basis of behaviour. i see no functional difference between someone who buys, owns and uses heroin and someone who buys, owns and uses oxycotin. So long as they break no other laws, ie mug someone to pay for the habit, public intoxication or driving under the influence, then i see no place for the state to be involved.
Should Mr Limbaugh take a similar position i'd be more sympathetic to his little problem, as it stands he just comes across as blatantly hypocritical.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 4:11:32 PM

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well philo, you do have to consider the medium and the context. There was more to the quote you cited than you cited. He does qualify it. It is kind of silly to pull a small quote froma larger concept, and pretend none of the qualifications exist.

What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use(previously qualified as Criminal drug use). Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law.

And that doesn't seem racist at all

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 4:12:52 PM

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You wrote that Wiki article ten minutes ago, didn't ya...

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Hell the comment he made on ESPN about Donovan McNabb was racist at its core.

You need to learn the definition of racism apparently. It wasnt even close.

....well, that isn't to say he has never made a racist comment.

"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."

Response to a black caller he was having a hard time understanding in the 1970s when he worked under the name "Jeff Christie" on a top-40 music program in Pittsburgh, as quoted in Newsday (8 October 1990) where he expresses some remorse at having said it.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh

......have to say he did apologise apparently, much later. Just like Reid.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 4:18:14 PM

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You wrote that Wiki article ten minutes ago, didn't ya...

...dammit Sanity, shhh.......or i'll tell everyone where you've hidden Obama's birth certificate.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 4:19:43 PM

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You wrote that Wiki article ten minutes ago, didn't ya...

...dammit Sanity, shhh.......or i'll tell everyone where you've hidden Obama's birth certificate.

i'd love to see a copy of that too.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 4:22:35 PM

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well philo, you do have to consider the medium and the context. There was more to the quote you cited than you cited. He does qualify it. It is kind of silly to pull a small quote froma larger concept, and pretend none of the qualifications exist.

What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use(previously qualified as Criminal drug use). Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law.

And that doesn't seem racist at all

...to take the last point first i agree. i don't classify that as racist. The line about a bone in the nose i do consider racist, but i was looking at two issues. Has Rush ever left himself a hostage to fortune regarding his drug use, and has he ever said anything racist. Willbe suggested that on the latter point he hadn't, i was happy to point out the error of his ways.

As to the first point, you're right. It was part of a longer rant regarding drug use. However, i was only looking to see if he'd ever said anything that meant he wanted to see all drug users in jail. Regardless of context i think the little rant we're discussing does indicate that.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 5:59:06 PM

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fair enough, I agree the bone comment was offensive.

But he clearly is talking about Partiers, Traffickers and Dealers. Criminal drug use. HE got hooked under a doctors care, like happens to millions ofpeople with tragic results. But it is very left wing to attack over something like that.

I think pretending it was blanket statement is kind of silly, He clearly qualifies it. Does the entire qualification have to occur in every sentance? That would just be stupid. and make communication impossible

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 6:01:07 PM

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Hello sexy.

Beck is a rodeo clown.

He's not that smart.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 6:16:33 PM

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fair enough, I agree the bone comment was offensive.

But he clearly is talking about Partiers, Traffickers and Dealers. Criminal drug use. HE got hooked under a doctors care, like happens to millions ofpeople with tragic results. But it is very left wing to attack over something like that.

And the ones caught doctor-shopping to buy large amounts of drugs are arrested. People are "attacking" him for his hypocrisy. I've heard plenty of right-wingers over the years not care how people started abusing drugs. All illegal users were the same.

Someone in Rush's position surely had the means, and the time, to get treatment for his addiction when it started, instead of waiting until he was busted.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 8:44:58 PM

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Has anyone ever actually presented the "All drug addicts should be locked up" quote? I've never seen/ heard it.. Just curious.

Many times.

You know, this stuff is really not hard to find if you put in a slight bit of effort.

Limbaugh on Drugs

There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods, which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.

Edited to add that Philosophy beat me to it before I read his post.

But I won't delete it since it has been posted many times here before and some people need to see it more than once before they acknowledge it.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 9:33:15 PM

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....there is a distinction between people who legally took prescribed painkillers and got addicted and criminals. So it is a relevant distinction. Millions ofpeople have had probelms with Pain meds, leagally prescribed for valid reasons.

Bullshit.

Rush was doctor shopping.

So let's not try to pretend he was not a criminal.

search warrants - The Smoking Gun: Archive

DECEMBER 5--Rush Limbaugh illegally purchased hundreds of prescription pills a month and sought a quartet of doctors to fuel his drug addiction, according to search warrant applications unsealed yesterday in Palm Beach County Circuit Court.

Investigators executing the searches, which took place November 25 at offices used by Limbaugh's South Florida physicians, accused the radio personality of "doctor shopping," or improperly seeking out practitioners to supply him with an inordinate abundance of painkillers OxyContin, Lorcet, Norco, Hydrocodone and Kadian, the anti-anxiety drug Xanax, the cholesterol-lowering drug Niacin, and Clonodine, which treats high blood pressure.

Under Florida law, doctor shopping is punishable by up to five years in prison.

The affidavits, one of which you'll find below, indicate that authorities began investigating the talk-show host last December after meeting with Wilma Cline, Limbaugh's former maid, and her husband, who told them that they sold Limbaugh "large quantities" of pharmaceutical drugs "over the course of many years."

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/12/2010 9:38:04 PM

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That article didn't really say much.... But i guess with enough conjecture it could be something....

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/13/2010 4:32:42 PM

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It says he bought prescription drugs illegally, both by doctor shopping, and by purchasing them from his maid.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/13/2010 4:37:25 PM

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Yes addiction is a terrible thing that causes people to do all sorts of things. He got hooked under a doctors care. Not because he was out partying. After addicted, he broke the law. No real surprise there.

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RE: So Mr Beck? - 1/13/2010 11:48:03 PM

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Yes addiction is a terrible thing that causes people to do all sorts of things. He got hooked under a doctors care. Not because he was out partying. After addicted, he broke the law. No real surprise there.

Except for the surprise that he said people that did such things should be in prison.

Wonder why he didn't volunteer, in the spirit of being true to his own words?

Then again, I'm still waiting for Sean Hannity to be waterboarded.

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