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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/15/2010 11:08:06 AM   
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"If anybody knows how to get hold of European or Mexican Coca Cola (made with cane sugar, not that corn syrup crap) from a reliable online supplier, I'd be really grateful for the tip. "

I heard about Kosher Coke not too long ago. It seems like they typically sell a bunch of it during Passover season. It has a yellow cap and costs about twice as much from what I've seen. A quick search indicates that if it has HFCS in it, it will not get a pareve. Google came up with a few suppliers, but I didn't hear about it from there. Someone told me they saw it in a store. So somewhere out there it should be findable without having to go overseas.

It seems to me then, that anyone who wants to avoid HFCS could just look for the little K. I wonder what else they don't allow. Kosher foods may be the key to better eating (or drinking). I have found a few things in my quest to eat better. I like Kosher bread (hear that Hunky ? no HFCS), Kosher salt must be better than regular table salt, damnear anything is.

Actually the sea salt I use is probably more Kosher than a Rabbi, as 50% of it was harvested from the Dead Sea. Now the only problem is, do I go to hell for putting Kosher salt on pork ?

At any rate, I am a label reader these days. I don't even want sugar in my food, at least in it's refined state. But that's just me. I think even sugar is poison, but not as powerful as HFCS, and nowhere near as poisonous as aspatame. I still avoid it.

I pulled my sweet tooth a long time ago, and it seemed to have a positive effect on the other 32. But I am used to it. Sweetener of any kind in tomato sauce is sickening to me, and when I used to drink coffee, one time I grabbed the wrong cup and almost threw up because it had sugar in it. I can't expect others to be like this, especially when we generally pump kids full of sugar from day one almost. (then wonder why they can't sit still)

There is a new sweetener out, well not new but just got approved recently - stevia. It is purported to be healthy, but might wind up like aspartame. Time will tell. Aspartame is not a poison per se, but becomes one in the body some time after ingestion.

I have no religion whatsoever, but I seem to agree with some things that are disallowed in Kosher foods. I wouldn't mind knowing more about just how that is determined, I'll have to research it sometime. From what I hear, Kosher is more a religious thing, but if that results in healthier foods, great.

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When I stopped drinking soda pop- I noticed it for a few months.   Then I got used to the taste of water. I still drink coffee- and milk.   I dont drink OJ- preferring to eat the orange.

Anyhow- Christmas 08- I was out and had a 12 oz can of diet coke.  I got maybe 1/2 way thru it and could not finish it.  It just was something that I did not crave or want.

Most likely your position on sugar is right on.   I still eat that- I add it to coffee and it is in the 65% chocolate I eat.
With the winter- tho- I run into cookies and pies.   I let myself for now- and I do have to morph into a better diet and soon.

In my 30s just about everything I ate was overly processed.  Today we are the results of the prior 10 years or so.

But it is not too late.   Foods do effect how you feel.  When I think back on what I ate- a good part of it- due to hurry up living- I cringe.   egads.

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/15/2010 4:08:32 PM   
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If anybody knows how to get hold of European or Mexican Coca Cola (made with cane sugar, not that corn syrup crap) from a reliable online supplier, I'd be really grateful for the tip.


I have seen some mountain dews around that are made from cane sugar. They do taste differently. It might be a test to see how well they sell.

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/15/2010 4:12:30 PM   
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yes-  it took me a while to locate a brand of whole wheat bread with out it.



What brand is that, PA? I'd be curious to know if it's one that's available in the Midwest. I always bake my own whole wheat sourdough, but it takes a whole day to rise and when I needed bread last week I didn't have time to make it. So for the first time in months, I bought a loaf of commercial whole wheat that tastes like corn syrup thickened with a little flour. It's inedible; I don't know how i ever ate store-bought bread. If there's a brand out there that doesn't use that crap, I'd sure like to know about it for the next time I get caught short.


http://www.earthgrains.com/

It runs $2.49 at the retail grocer- $1.99 at the surplus grocer.   22 ounces- the shape is abit thicker- so look at the weight when comparing it.

I find that this bread will last longer- and the heals can be toasted and eaten.  I have tried the whole wheat and the 7 grains.




Yea that's some good bread. Every since I started eating it I can'tstand the taste of white bread anymore.

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/15/2010 4:30:38 PM   
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I just saw a commercial for a "new" Pepsi product, called "throwback Pepsi." It's apparently the old recipe, made with cane sugar. It'll be interesting to see whether Coke copycats them. I'd really love to drink an old-fashioned coke, ice cold out of the bottle on a hot summer day. 

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/15/2010 5:04:56 PM   
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I just saw a commercial for a "new" Pepsi product, called "throwback Pepsi." It's apparently the old recipe, made with cane sugar. It'll be interesting to see whether Coke copycats them. I'd really love to drink an old-fashioned coke, ice cold out of the bottle on a hot summer day. 


I never had an original pepsi so I can't miss it. But I can't stand pepsi. Well if coke goes back to the original original recipe they will damn sure sell. They need to bring back the old bottles. And get rid of these plastic ones.

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/15/2010 5:14:38 PM   
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I'd really love to drink an old-fashioned coke, ice cold out of the bottle on a hot summer day. 


Those were the best - I loved those bottles, they would get all misty from the cold *sigh*. Nostalgia, nostalgia.

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/15/2010 6:12:42 PM   
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I'd really love to drink an old-fashioned coke, ice cold out of the bottle on a hot summer day. 


Those were the best - I loved those bottles, they would get all misty from the cold *sigh*. Nostalgia, nostalgia.


Nothing like a glass bottle. Cans, plastic bottles.... they just  don't taste right. I drank Coke all the time when I was a kid - every day, in fact - but I can probably count on one hand the number of times I drank Coke from a can. It doesn't even taste like Coke.

Nice, frosty glass bottle, with a wisp of vapor twisting out of the top of the bottle as you snap the cap off; the icy splash of flavor as that first swallow rolls over your tongue and bursts against the back of your throat... that's what summer's all about. Marry me this August, Kit, and I'll buy you an ice-cold bottle of Coke. Heck, I'll even open it for you!

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/15/2010 6:18:37 PM   
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"If anybody knows how to get hold of European or Mexican Coca Cola (made with cane sugar, not that corn syrup crap) from a reliable online supplier, I'd be really grateful for the tip. "


T

Check any Mexican food store T. They usually have it made with sugar and in glass bottles as well. Panda, that is where you need to go to get that whispy childhood memory. No need to marry Kit, although...hey why not?

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/16/2010 12:27:46 AM   
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tenze, there is no way I could ever marry kit. As much as I hate this planet (in a nice way) I would not want to start WW3. See then she will call me a ressurection of Hitler, and other abomitary adjectives the rest of the world does not, and never would know.

Without the recognition it is just not worth it.

Anyway, it is important to avoid HFCS and all these Johnny come lately chemicals. I would rather see what kept people alive a hundred years ago.

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/16/2010 4:42:13 AM   
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I found this list:
http://highfructosehigh.com/no-hfcs/

• Amana Multi Grain Bread
• Aunt Millie’s Old Fashioned Butter-Top Wheat
• Brownberry’s Arnold Natural Health Nut Bread
• Country Hearth 12-Grain Bread
• Earth Grains 100% Natural 7-Grain Bread
• Franz “McKenzie Farms” Old Fashioned Buttermilk Bread
• Franz Whole Grain White
• Milton’s Bread (most, if not all)
• Natures Own
• Oroweat Mult-Grain Bread (but watch out for HFCS in their other varietes)
• Martin’s Breads & Rolls (including hot dog buns/rolls and such)
• Pepperidge Farms 100% Natural Breads
• Pepperidge Farms Whole Grain Wheat Bread
• Rudi’s Organic Bakery Buns
• Vermont Bread Company breads
• Wheat Montana breads/rolls

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/16/2010 8:39:07 AM   
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As I said on another thread, I'm always amazed by how many people avoid HFCS when the discussion comes up. I can't stand corn cyrup myself and try and avoid anything made with corn syrup.I suspect that over time all the artificial sweeteners - nutrasweet, aspartame, sorbitol, etc. - will all end up being unhealthy for you and having odd side effects. Sugar is a very simple chemical compound that your body easily processes. Long complex chemical chains designed to emulate the taste of sugar cannot be good for you.

Eat right and exercise. There is no substitute.

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/16/2010 9:14:01 AM   
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I found this list:
http://highfructosehigh.com/no-hfcs/

• Amana Multi Grain Bread
• Aunt Millie’s Old Fashioned Butter-Top Wheat
• Brownberry’s Arnold Natural Health Nut Bread
• Country Hearth 12-Grain Bread
• Earth Grains 100% Natural 7-Grain Bread
• Franz “McKenzie Farms” Old Fashioned Buttermilk Bread
• Franz Whole Grain White
• Milton’s Bread (most, if not all)
• Natures Own
• Oroweat Mult-Grain Bread (but watch out for HFCS in their other varietes)
• Martin’s Breads & Rolls (including hot dog buns/rolls and such)
• Pepperidge Farms 100% Natural Breads
• Pepperidge Farms Whole Grain Wheat Bread
• Rudi’s Organic Bakery Buns
• Vermont Bread Company breads
• Wheat Montana breads/rolls


Nice find!

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/16/2010 9:39:53 PM   
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As I said on another thread, I'm always amazed by how many people avoid HFCS when the discussion comes up. I can't stand corn cyrup myself and try and avoid anything made with corn syrup.I suspect that over time all the artificial sweeteners - nutrasweet, aspartame, sorbitol, etc. - will all end up being unhealthy for you and having odd side effects. Sugar is a very simple chemical compound that your body easily processes. Long complex chemical chains designed to emulate the taste of sugar cannot be good for you.

Eat right and exercise. There is no substitute.


Great post Invisible Black, these days it comes down to picking your poison.
I am able to drink tea and coffee without sugar, but if I eat a food that has sugar in it, I prefer the REAL sugar to that other crap!
I do have some sugar-free cookies here, though.

I worry about raw fruits and vegetables and pesticides which was not mentioned here.

When I go out I rarely eat anything raw in restaurants or food bars, do you think the produce is well washed? I also never drink the "ice water" they give you either.
I see so many people that get "weird stomach viruses" or some other malady after eating out.


I was in one of those fancy "health stores" today basically looking around.
I always check the amount of sugar in products, and so many products they sold were loaded with sugar.
hummmm

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/17/2010 10:33:51 AM   
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Can I recommend Mark Pendergrast's fine book For God Country And Coca Cola to everybody in this thread? Dated now, but still a good read.

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/17/2010 10:42:52 AM   
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As I said on another thread, I'm always amazed by how many people avoid HFCS when the discussion comes up. I can't stand corn cyrup myself and try and avoid anything made with corn syrup.I suspect that over time all the artificial sweeteners - nutrasweet, aspartame, sorbitol, etc. - will all end up being unhealthy for you and having odd side effects. Sugar is a very simple chemical compound that your body easily processes. Long complex chemical chains designed to emulate the taste of sugar cannot be good for you.

Eat right and exercise. There is no substitute.

I drink diet cola (I prefer pepsi or virgin but I'll drink coke if I have to) as a mixer for scotch as a diebetic pissartist.
I hear where your coming from, though. I've had to give grapefruit over those fucking vastins...

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/17/2010 11:45:29 AM   
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or even a triple post. Fucking Hell.
Can't they put a delete function on her?

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/17/2010 11:46:45 AM   
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double post.

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/17/2010 12:52:21 PM   
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I just look at a coke can and sure enough, HFCS is listed as the second item.

Now...if a product has corn syrup is that HFCS or plain CS? I know that the new Chocolate Cheeries has CS in it. I am afraid to look at my honey buns that I get at the surplus store.

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/17/2010 6:05:44 PM   
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I brew my teas with stevia (the leaf, not the adulterated stevia-based stuff like Truvia) or use stevia liquid extract (like using a flavoring extract).

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RE: HFCS not just in the food in the 'States, apparentl... - 1/17/2010 6:46:28 PM   
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I just look at a coke can and sure enough, HFCS is listed as the second item.

Now...if a product has corn syrup is that HFCS or plain CS? I know that the new Chocolate Cheeries has CS in it. I am afraid to look at my honey buns that I get at the surplus store.


That is a good question.  I dont know.

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