PeonForHer -> RE: Forced Masculinity, Take 2 (1/18/2010 4:34:47 PM)
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ORIGINAL: QueenRah Again, another successful thread. Great OP - many interesting responses. Thanks to all but one of you. (You all know whom I'm excluding, yes?) QR Would you call it successful? I feel like we got away from the (very interesting) original topic, and onto another (also interesting) discussion about whether submissive males are still masculine. Other than a reference Lady Angelika gave to taking subs out to buy proper suits, there wasn't much discussion of how you would actually go about 'forced gentlemanization' (which is what this idea has now become called in my head, seeing as the word 'masculine' seemed to confuse a few people). Now that psychonaut has been gagged, please could we actually talk about it, Lady Angelika? It's not quite my cup of tea, being mostly into women, but it sounds fascinating! Ah - well, I think there could be a lot of scope for 'forced gentlemanization' in a D/s relationship. For starters, I think there's a lot more agreement about what constitutes a 'gentleman' than what constitutes 'being masculine'. Secondly, I think such gentlemanization happens anyway, amongst vanillas, a lot of the time. ('Stop belching, darling' - yep, we've all heard it or said it.) Hmm. Enforced attendance at a kind of finishing school for men? Trouble is, I've never heard of such a school - not here in the UK, anyway. My mother had a great little trick when I was a boy. She inserted two books on manners and etiquette between the dictionaries and encyclopaedias in the bookcase. She never even mentioned that they were there - she knew that myself and my three brothers could never be forced to read them. But we all did, eventually - out of fascination. Anyhow, that's how I ended up with silky-smooth elegance, perfect poise and immaculate manners. For subs who are still louts and ruffians, I'd recommend enforced reading of such books on manners and etiquette. Then a written examination. And a stiff practical one: say, one that earns the highest marks for assiduous maintenance of perfect conduct with the rudest, most unpleasant woman the Domme in question can find. Heh. I should be a Domme.
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