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ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/20/2010 8:19:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jj292

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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Well if a man cant manage his own life, he cant manage mine. So thats what its about for many of us subs.

This.
JJ- No, money is not the most important thing in life. That said, a lack of it, esp if it is because one partner is irresponsible when it comes to handling the household finances, is often the death knell for a relationship. I don't understand why so many get their panties in a bunch over people stating that they are looking for a partner who handles his/her money well, esp when it is a submissive who may very well turn over all decisions, including financial, to hir Dominant at some point in the relationship.


Not having money and being irresponsible with money are not always related. Sure there are people that get a credit card and max it out the next day on stupid stuff that isnt needed. Some people though have a credit card and max it out because of a medical problem. Both are in debt. Both are financially insecure and strapped. Are both irresponsible with money?

Average college grad is $40,000 in debt when they enter the workforce. Average law school grad is over $100,000 in debt. These people are dirt broke coming out of school. But they are on the right path...correct? Do they eventually pull themselves out of debt. Eventually yes. But sometimes they fail for a while and failure is pretty common right now considering the state of the economy. I know a guy with an engineering degree working as a bartender because he can't find an entry level job in his field. Are these people all irresponsible?

My point, like I said before, is people fall on tough times all the time. Even people who are responsible with money. And you can't judge a person's character, intelligence, and integrity based on their bank account balance.


Maybe you're reading too much into what other people mean when they say they're looking for a "financially secure" partner. Most of the profiles I see that have this phrase, or similar phrases, seem to me as though they're just saying they don't want someone whose financial situation is in a state of total freefall.

Granted, the phrase can mean a lot of things to a lot of people, and I know that in some cases it is code for "wealthy and generous," but my impression is that most women are reasonable, decent creatures who just want to be sure that the guy they're thinking of opening their hearts to isn't just some unemployed sleazeball who's $100,000 in debt and looking for someone to support him. It's all well and good to say that money isn't the be-all and end-all in this life, but the fact remains that if you join your life with the wrong person, your life can literally be ruined by that decision. I've got no problem with people being cautious about this, or saying so right up front.



Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/20/2010 8:25:20 PM)

So much for offering to provide a CardBoard Box Bungalo on the sandy beaches of a remote tropical Island. All the uber no-limit slave girls seem to discover being trained in the art of "Crab Hunting" as a hard limit. Who needs stinking money when one can live off the land like people have for thousands of years. Damn it, McDonalds and Burger King has ruined it completely.



WyldHrt -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/20/2010 8:26:40 PM)

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All the uber no-limit slave girls seem to discover being trained in the art of "Crab Hunting" as a hard limit.

Which parts of them were you using for bait, Whiplash? [:D]



ranja -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 3:14:02 AM)

i don't think there is anything wrong with gold diggers as long as they have the capability and responsibility to chip in or even take over the earning of money completely if it becomes necessary.

"Financially secure" is not something that is a given all the time, it is a wish, not a constant... money can be lost...
it is nice to start your relationship at a comfortable financial level, it is very nice to increase your finances and become ritcher and ritcher, but it does not always work out like that... many partnerships and marriages break over money trouble.

money is important but the ability to share, live cheap and make do and the constant stamina to make ends meet are much more important in my opinion



lusciouslips19 -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 3:58:06 AM)

If some are turned off by those who say they want someone "financially secure", thats life. I'm not too keen on those who seek someone HWP. I mean what exactly is height weight proportionate? Thats in the eye of the beholder too? If someone wants someone "slender, most likely Im just a few pounds over that. Also, I'm not thrilled when someone my age seeks a young girl. But thats the way the cookie crumbles and I certainly am not compatible with someone who doesnt think Im fabulous. So if certain requirements like financially secure turns some off, likely they are just the sorts that we are o.k. turning off.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 5:28:55 AM)

I freely admit that I want someone generous and mature. It is entirely possible to be generous with things OTHER than money, and those are the things that matter most. I have found a pretty distinct correlation between cheapness of wallet and cheapness of spirit, though.



lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 6:26:46 AM)

Business Law, Business Management. Human Resource Management. Organisational Behaviour and Accounting are the main modules
Kevin



LadyEllen -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 6:55:59 AM)

perfect Kevin; which of those do you find most interesting?

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lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 7:23:22 AM)

Hard to say. Anything that will get me into a job, probably HR because there are so many opportunities to get work there, that it prizes above all the ability to chat and communicate with people, something Im pretty good at and I would be helping others to get jobs as well, other unemployed individuals whom I can easily identify with as I am there myself now, Yeah I think I would be good at that, facilitating others helping others to gain employment
Kevin



lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 7:25:40 AM)

I would start off at the bottom of course, everyone does but Yeah HR has a good career structure to me with clear opportunities from HR generalist to HR Manager
Kevin



LadyEllen -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 7:29:51 AM)

That response leaves me tempted to say "well how come you cant find a job for your number 1 client?" but that would be cheeky of course.

Have you tried applying to work for the employment service over there? Over here theyve had to recruit thousands to keep up with the new demand.

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LadyEllen -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 7:32:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

I would start off at the bottom of course, everyone does but Yeah HR has a good career structure to me with clear opportunities from HR generalist to HR Manager
Kevin



are you sure about that? there was a report on the news the other day (about the UK admittedly) that pointed out that starting at the bottom and working your way up no longer applies. Its more often that if you start at the bottom, thats where you'll stay as businesses bring in graduates to fill middle management roles.

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lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 7:52:54 AM)

I have no managerial experience whatsoever other than working under managers in work. I am merely studying management. I am currently unemployed. The idea of going back to college was to give me an extra string to my bow to make me attractive to employers after I finish
Kevin



lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 7:54:40 AM)

There is a recruitment embargo in Ireland in the public service. Very few are being hired in the private sector, many businesses are still struggling  financially very desperately to survive and can t afford to take on new staff but Im hopeful that will change when we get out of this as we will
Kevin



LadyEllen -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 7:55:06 AM)

And it should Kevin, but its no magic bullet thats for sure.

Have you also looked at whats available over here? its a big move but a well trodden path. I fancy the days of the Celtic Tiger are over and however bad it is here and all that....

E



LadyHibiscus -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 8:51:23 AM)

Glad to hear you are doing something positive, Kevin!



lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 8:52:06 AM)

Im a homebird Im afraid. Very patriotic me. My bro lives in England , works in London in a completely different industry. I would have to find a place to stay and pay rent for an apartment. Im afraid Im not ready to move across the water yet. I dont have the capital. Plus Im Irish , there is no guarantee I would get work, what with my medical and work history till now on top of the fact that Im not a native
Kevin



lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 8:55:25 AM)

No all the support I have is here in Dublin. My bro is very high powered and would not put up with me for very long , especially if he ended up paying for things for me while Im out of work. London is not a place for the faint hearted or the vulnerable. No Im afraid I would be more vulnerable in London than in Dublin simply because I know no one outside my bro who has his own challenges and difficulties, who I could connect with if I was in trouble. As I most likely would be
Kevin



lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 8:56:26 AM)

Thanks for Your kind words
Kevin



EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/21/2010 9:35:03 AM)

i've been reading this thread for several days... and i will say this.

i see where both sides are coming from.

people tend to be put-off of sorts when it comes to someone stating something that they cannot fulfill. it's human nature to feel a little butt hurt so to speak.

egos are easily bruised.

however, like someone said before.. if someone blatantly states what they're looking for (even if it is financial security in a submissive) then it's not like it's unreasonable or deceitful. i chalk it up to a preference and i wouldn't be any more offended than if they listed scat as a fetish and i may not be into that.

sometimes subs will have requirements listed in their profile that i'm not interested in.... so i just pass.

i know my profile is rather clear-cut as to what i'm expecting from a prospective submissive and what i have to offer as a dominant in return.

i've had people IM me just to tell me that my profile is too specific and i'll NEVER find someone capable of meeting said requirements.

and here i am well-served with no shortage of daily applicants from CM alone.

people often eschew or internalize some perceived slight done to them by a dom/me expressing what they are seeking because THAT particular submissive simply isn't capable of meeting the aforementioned requirements so they feel inadequate i believe.

it's natural.

as long as someone is forthcoming then i see not the big deal.

the financial situation of my submissives runs the gamut. some are extremely financially secure and i have a couple who are currently unemployed.. i didn't dump the broke ones because they're my boys.

would i accept a broke slave?.. hmmm.. it would depend, is he useful in other ways? does he clean? does he build dungeon furniture? is he capable of filming video?.. does he maintain websites?

i suggest people (subs) focus less on the almightly dollar and focus more on what you have to offer beyond physical servitude. if someone only wants financial servants then i'm sure they'd be willing to consider you more if you have some other tangible skill.


-Goddess





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