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osf -> what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 3:21:23 PM)
what do you consider spiritual about D/s? I don't think in spiritual terms, but for a submissive completely letting go and becoming what nature intended her to be, ie complete surrender to it well I think that is about as spiritual as it gets

trueshadow -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 3:54:11 PM)
Well, I can't answer as to the female side of it, but I don't have spiritual feelings about D/s. I just feel that it is natural for me. I don't think that a sub or even slave could 'let go completely' in the sense of changing his/her personality. I believe that stays intact. Perhaps it's different for female slaves/subs.

osf -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 4:02:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: trueshadow Well, I can't answer as to the female side of it, but I don't have spiritual feelings about D/s. I just feel that it is natural for me. I don't think that a sub or even slave could 'let go completely' in the sense of changing his/her personality. I believe that stays intact. Perhaps it's different for female slaves/subs. i have seen some that can let go like that for hours at a time, my first submissive could, it was awe inspiring, sorta made me feel good too lol

peppermint -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 4:45:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf quote: ORIGINAL: trueshadow Well, I can't answer as to the female side of it, but I don't have spiritual feelings about D/s. I just feel that it is natural for me. I don't think that a sub or even slave could 'let go completely' in the sense of changing his/her personality. I believe that stays intact. Perhaps it's different for female slaves/subs. i have seen some that can let go like that for hours at a time, my first submissive could, it was awe inspiring, sorta made me feel good too lol Wow, this is way beyond my understanding. Wherever I am or whatever I am doing, I am always me. I do not change or morph into some super subbie or anything. I enjoy submission because it fits. It is what I am. It feels like my skin in that it is part of me.

littlewonder -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 4:50:48 PM)
My entire life is spiritual. God is in every fiber of everything I do on a daily basis, this includes bdsm and d/s. I don't have any need to "let go to be submissive". I am who I am always. There is no separation. There is no split personality or having to hide anything.

mistoferin -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 6:57:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf i have seen some that can let go like that for hours at a time, my first submissive could, it was awe inspiring, sorta made me feel good too lol For whole hours at a time? Really??? That's not "letting go"....that's pretending.

UniqueRaven -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:01:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf quote: ORIGINAL: trueshadow Well, I can't answer as to the female side of it, but I don't have spiritual feelings about D/s. I just feel that it is natural for me. I don't think that a sub or even slave could 'let go completely' in the sense of changing his/her personality. I believe that stays intact. Perhaps it's different for female slaves/subs. i have seen some that can let go like that for hours at a time, my first submissive could, it was awe inspiring, sorta made me feel good too lol If you're talking about that "floaty" meditative state, i understand, and have experienced that for hours, especially in the cage. That isn't personality modification, though, it's just being "checked out" - even though i'm not actively expressing my personality at the time.

osf -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:03:09 PM)
quote: For whole hours at a time? Really??? That's not "letting go"....that's pretending. meaning? i love how people criticize something they were not a part of and yes sub space can last for hours

osf -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:04:12 PM)
and how dare some women block my mail lol

NormalOutside -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:05:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf what do you consider spiritual about D/s? How do you define "spiritual"? The question isn't possible to answer, without either jumping to an assumption about that, or waiting to hear you clarify That said, you're probably just trolling and spamming as usual, so not sure why I bothered.

osf -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:08:54 PM)
quote: If you're talking about that "floaty" meditative state, i understand, and have experienced that for hours, especially in the cage. That isn't personality modification, though, it's just being "checked out" - even though i'm not actively expressing my personality at the time. my first craved it

mistoferin -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:10:12 PM)
Yes, subspace can and often does last for hours. But I did not get the impression that you were referring to subspace in your OP. What you said was... quote: a submissive completely letting go and becoming what nature intended her to be, ie complete surrender to it trueshadow then pointed out... quote: I don't think that a sub or even slave could 'let go completely' in the sense of changing his/her personality. I believe that stays intact. To which you replied that you had seen some that could do that for hours at a time. An altered state of conciousness, eg. subspace, does not change one's personality, or more specifically, their orientation. It does not make one magically submissive. Maybe I entirely misunderstood your post?

UniqueRaven -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:10:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf quote: If you're talking about that "floaty" meditative state, i understand, and have experienced that for hours, especially in the cage. That isn't personality modification, though, it's just being "checked out" - even though i'm not actively expressing my personality at the time. my first craved it Yes, it is a state that can craved. It isn't only achieved through "subspace" though - it can also be obtained through meditation, without any D/s play. [;)]

mistoferin -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:13:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf and how dare some women block my mail lol Not sure if you were implying that I blocked your mail but...just to clarify, I didn't. In fact, I have never blocked anyone.

littlewonder -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:21:20 PM)
Ok I didn't get that you were talking about subspace in your question. Yeah I can go into subspace aka runner's high aka meditative state aka endorphin rush. That has nothing to do with my submission but more to do with bdsm play.

osf -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:23:23 PM)
quote: Yes, it is a state that can craved. It isn't only achieved through "subspace" though - it can also be obtained through meditation, without any D/s play. i was able to talk her into it

osf -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:29:19 PM)
i'm speaking of a state of mind that is relaxed when she in in his presence and she lets him make decisions do all the worrying after she has unloaded her thoughts on him

mistoferin -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:30:45 PM)
Would it be possible for you to further clarify what you are talking about? Now that you have said that you could "talk her into it" I am even more confused.

littlewonder -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:31:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf i'm speaking of a state of mind that is relaxed when she in in his presence and she lets him make decisions do all the worrying after she has unloaded her thoughts on him That's called being in a loving caring relationship with someone to the point where you are comfortable enough with the other to let your guard down. Has nothing at all to do with d/s.

mistoferin -> RE: what do you consider spiritual about D/s? (1/19/2010 7:32:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf i'm speaking of a state of mind that is relaxed when she in in his presence and she lets him make decisions do all the worrying after she has unloaded her thoughts on him Well that is certainly not subspace. Does this only occur after they "unload" on you?

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