SL4V3M4YB3
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I enjoy talking to people who do not agree with me, as long as we can keep that wall of mutual respect...
I suppose lately, in the real world, I encounter more and more people that are able to do that. I am not trying to change anyone's mind anymore. I am trying to find different ways to skin a cat....I am trying to learn what can be done, outside of the system, to bring about change...
I've always seen it slightly differently in terms of: we all have our views about things (based on what previous people or events have put into our heads). Some of these views we'll give ground on and be able to see things from another perspective on, thus giving the original view more strength or challenging it. Whilst other views we'll never give way on because they are so intrinsically linked to how we live as individuals. We would have to change how we lived first to change our views in that latter respect.
I think in respect to this forum there are more people with views that are fixed firmly by how the individual involved live rather than views about academic situations or questions that don't have any real impact on their current lives. If the question was ‘are quantum singularities linked to the creation of galaxies?’ then we could have some real non-adversarial debate on that issue because it has zero impact on how we live our lives. However if the question is ‘how was the universe created?’ then obviously it’s going to get a little more confrontational because that question impacts how they live as individuals.
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.. and then there is the fact that I lead my life with less friction and less resistance than I used to... so I see all these threads that are pages and pages long... and I think... I have no interest in weighing in because it is not the best use of my time, it does not uplift me, and it accomplishes nothing...
What I've noticed is that often people state their case over and over again, this leads to those long threads with people basically repeating themselves. I do it myself also. A simple example of how it works is that person 'a' says something and then person 'b' and 'c' refute it in the same way giving the same answer. So then rather than person 'a' giving one answer to both they'll say slightly different things (but trying to convey the same message) to two people and it cascades outwards from there. Others then look for inconsistencies in how that original person presents that position. If you try to say the same thing a number of different ways then eventually it'll start to look like you are saying something else; akin to Chinese whispers, but throughout you mean the same.
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Perhaps I should not have posted this thread... I probably shouldn't have....people will always find something to disagree about.. even where there is nothing to really disagree about...
Yes they will unless you are saying the colour blue looks blue. What else is to be expected when you propose an idea? You are also wrong because it's not that 'people will find something to disagree about' but rather 'how someone perceives the truth isn't how everybody does'. You hold your truths but there aren’t many truths that can be easily proven and even with independent scrutiny of such truths with evidence it becomes a question of how ready the other person is to believe the supporting evidence. They often aren’t.
< Message edited by SL4V3M4YB3 -- 1/23/2010 12:06:17 PM >
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