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I went to a party - 1/23/2010 7:24:56 AM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		So, they had a 'tea party' in Perham Minnesota last night, Otter Tail County http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otter_Tail_County,_Minnesota

Anyways with a pretty good draw area, approximately 300 people showed up.

They served tea (not much and black (and icky) with no milk or sugar available, heathens) although I prefer white and then green in that order.

Local 'conservative talk show jock' hosted it. Michelle Bachmann gave a 'keynote address' via phone, a fratboy FREEDOM, and the GOOD CONSERVATIVES OF PERHAM and stupid shit like that, blaming Obama for engineering the raising of the debt ceiling and fucking near orgasmic about the Brown win.

They had 4 governor candidates, 2 state senator candidates, one secretary of state candidate and some other shit, and while they talked about 'conservatives of every party' they were all republican. I can assure you that no democrats or other party candidates were invited to attend. They were woofing about Dorgan retiring and how bad Colin Peterson needs to be whipped out of office.

The candidates gave an elevator speech and then took questions from the audience (as we were told so that they could actually listen to the concerns of minnesotans, and get government back in their hands), well my question was:

What is our budget, what do we take in? Given that, how do we cut to balance, never mind further cuts.

They all went off on cut welfare, or cut taxes, or go thru every line of the budget, but nobody had any hard here is what we make, here is the shortfall and here is where we should be, someone did point out however that we are roughly equivalent to colorado, and their biannual budget is 40B and ours is 60B and so there is alot can come out ....

More involved than that, but I dont like to type.

Tim Pawlenty (our gov) has increased govt by 20% and he is roundly dissed as not conservative, but like Bush, Reagan and many other republicans thats what he called himself and thats what they yahooed throughout the administrations, and now, are like other politicians throwing them under the bus. Many of these guys were in the legislature during some of this time, but they are distancing themselves now and LOL to quote the dogsock 'lying and pretending' to be fiscal conservatives.

All in all it was canned answers, jingoes, mottos, and soundbites.

Aint no change in Minnesota politics, and these tea parties are a fucking sham, not one astute individual amongst them, professional politician or joe six pack.

Total waste of fucking time and energy. And the turn out....well, they are going to have to have several thousand tea parties a day to even come close to claiming that there have been 1 million people attending tea parties all told since 2000.

LOL, a fuckin joke, same old same old.

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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 7:35:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am sorry to hear that Ron. I don't suppose you were suprised though.

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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 7:40:35 AM   
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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:11:48 AM   
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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:18:17 AM   
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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:22:38 AM   
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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:30:07 AM   
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Also Ron is a tea snob, black tea last, tsk tsk,


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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:30:18 AM   
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I'm gonna take what you write here with a couple of pallets of rock salt because you're the same guy who "yawned" when I posted the news of Scott Brown's chances to win in Massachusetts.

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3004901

Which turned out to be one of the biggest political news stories in years.


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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:31:14 AM   
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How about the election of Barack Obama?

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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:31:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, at least you went to see for yourself, Ron.

Here's some background info from Wiki on who is supporting/encouraging/in-bed-with the Party. Some very familiar names here, so not much of a surprise in what you found.

FreedomWorks is a "coalition partner" of TeaPartyPatriots.org, but does not fund the site in any way.

FreedomWorks is a conservative non-profit organization based in Washington D.C., United States. FreedomWorks trains volunteer activists and wages campaigns to encourage them to mobilize, engage fellow citizens, and influence their political representatives. Several of FreedomWorks' campaigns have been described as "astroturfing," or projecting the false impression of grassroots organizing.[1][2][3] FreedomWorks' spokesmen have denied this characterization.

FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity both originated from a campaign called Citizens for a Sound Economy, which split in two in 2004. CSE was set up by businessman (Koch Industries), David Koch, who has also promoted liberty and research organizations (Cato Institute and Reason Foundation).[4] Citizens for a Sound Economy (grassroots machine) merged with Empower America (policy expertise) in 2004 and was renamed FreedomWorks, with Dick Armey, Jack Kemp and C. Boyden Gray serving as co-chairmen, Bill Bennett focusing on school choice as a Senior Fellow, and Matt Kibbe as President and CEO.[5] Empower America was founded in 1993 by William Bennett, former Secretary of HUD Jack Kemp, former Ambassador Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, and former Representative Vin Weber.[6]

FreedomWorks seeks to identify itself with two schools of thought: the Austrian School of economics and public choice theory. Through public choice theory, FreedomWorks legitimizes its mission and models itself after the Austrian School.[citation needed] Citizens for a Sound Economy is chaired by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey. Publisher Steve Forbes serves as Vice Chairman of Citizens for a Sound Economy.[citation needed]

President and CEO Matt Kibbe, a former aide to Republican Representative Dan Miller and a former staffer at the Republican National Committee, said that the group "will encourage Republicans -- and Democrats -- to take positions on issues of individual freedom." Armey said that "Ronald Reagan launched a political and intellectual revolution, and the Contract with America expanded it. Today, it’s time for the next wave.[citation needed]We have a rare window to make the big ideas of individual ownership and economic opportunity a political reality for all Americans. That’s the purpose of FreedomWorks."[citation needed]
Congressman Ron Paul was the first Chairman of CSE.[citation needed]

In 2009, FreedomWorks responded to the growing number of Tea party protests across the United States, and is currently one of several groups active in the "Tea Party" tax protests.[7]

On August 14 2009, after Armey's leadership of FreedomWorks became a problem to his employer, the lobbying and legal firm of DLA Piper, he was forced to resign from his job there. DLA Piper chairman Francis Burch responded that the firm serves clients “… who support enactment of effective health care reform this year and encourages responsible national debate." It is unknown whether this move will impact Armey's role with FreedomWorks. [8]

Deceptive "grass roots" movement imo.

Vince

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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:34:36 AM   
Sanity


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Did I write the biggest news story?

No I didn't, did I.

I wrote, "one of the biggest".

Besides, Barack Obama is really just Jimmy the second, isn't he. He's already going down in flames...

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In years?

How about the election of Barack Obama?


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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:39:50 AM   
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In years?

How about the election of Barack Obama?


Sanity said it already

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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:40:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Vincent, isn't anything that gets people more involved in their government a "good" thing?

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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:41:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Well, at least you went to see for yourself, Ron.

Here's some background info from Wiki on who is supporting/encouraging/in-bed-with the Party. Some very familiar names here, so not much of a surprise in what you found.

FreedomWorks is a "coalition partner" of TeaPartyPatriots.org, but does not fund the site in any way.

FreedomWorks is a conservative non-profit organization based in Washington D.C., United States. FreedomWorks trains volunteer activists and wages campaigns to encourage them to mobilize, engage fellow citizens, and influence their political representatives. Several of FreedomWorks' campaigns have been described as "astroturfing," or projecting the false impression of grassroots organizing.[1][2][3] FreedomWorks' spokesmen have denied this characterization.

FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity both originated from a campaign called Citizens for a Sound Economy, which split in two in 2004. CSE was set up by businessman (Koch Industries), David Koch, who has also promoted liberty and research organizations (Cato Institute and Reason Foundation).[4] Citizens for a Sound Economy (grassroots machine) merged with Empower America (policy expertise) in 2004 and was renamed FreedomWorks, with Dick Armey, Jack Kemp and C. Boyden Gray serving as co-chairmen, Bill Bennett focusing on school choice as a Senior Fellow, and Matt Kibbe as President and CEO.[5] Empower America was founded in 1993 by William Bennett, former Secretary of HUD Jack Kemp, former Ambassador Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, and former Representative Vin Weber.[6]

FreedomWorks seeks to identify itself with two schools of thought: the Austrian School of economics and public choice theory. Through public choice theory, FreedomWorks legitimizes its mission and models itself after the Austrian School.[citation needed] Citizens for a Sound Economy is chaired by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey. Publisher Steve Forbes serves as Vice Chairman of Citizens for a Sound Economy.[citation needed]

President and CEO Matt Kibbe, a former aide to Republican Representative Dan Miller and a former staffer at the Republican National Committee, said that the group "will encourage Republicans -- and Democrats -- to take positions on issues of individual freedom." Armey said that "Ronald Reagan launched a political and intellectual revolution, and the Contract with America expanded it. Today, it’s time for the next wave.[citation needed]We have a rare window to make the big ideas of individual ownership and economic opportunity a political reality for all Americans. That’s the purpose of FreedomWorks."[citation needed]
Congressman Ron Paul was the first Chairman of CSE.[citation needed]

In 2009, FreedomWorks responded to the growing number of Tea party protests across the United States, and is currently one of several groups active in the "Tea Party" tax protests.[7]

On August 14 2009, after Armey's leadership of FreedomWorks became a problem to his employer, the lobbying and legal firm of DLA Piper, he was forced to resign from his job there. DLA Piper chairman Francis Burch responded that the firm serves clients “… who support enactment of effective health care reform this year and encourages responsible national debate." It is unknown whether this move will impact Armey's role with FreedomWorks. [8]

Deceptive "grass roots" movement imo.

Vince

Yeah, but Acorn is just a bunch of "community organizers". ROFL

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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:42:17 AM   
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Geez.

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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:46:03 AM   
Sanity


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I love the way you Liberals are trying to convince yourselves that you're not in trouble. I wonder how many are really buying it... 

Where did you get your copy-and-paste from, vincent? What was your source?


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Well, at least you went to see for yourself, Ron.

Here's some background info from Wiki on who is supporting/encouraging/in-bed-with the Party. Some very familiar names here, so not much of a surprise in what you found.

FreedomWorks is a "coalition partner" of TeaPartyPatriots.org, but does not fund the site in any way.

FreedomWorks is a conservative non-profit organization based in Washington D.C., United States. FreedomWorks trains volunteer activists and wages campaigns to encourage them to mobilize, engage fellow citizens, and influence their political representatives. Several of FreedomWorks' campaigns have been described as "astroturfing," or projecting the false impression of grassroots organizing.[1][2][3] FreedomWorks' spokesmen have denied this characterization.

FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity both originated from a campaign called Citizens for a Sound Economy, which split in two in 2004. CSE was set up by businessman (Koch Industries), David Koch, who has also promoted liberty and research organizations (Cato Institute and Reason Foundation).[4] Citizens for a Sound Economy (grassroots machine) merged with Empower America (policy expertise) in 2004 and was renamed FreedomWorks, with Dick Armey, Jack Kemp and C. Boyden Gray serving as co-chairmen, Bill Bennett focusing on school choice as a Senior Fellow, and Matt Kibbe as President and CEO.[5] Empower America was founded in 1993 by William Bennett, former Secretary of HUD Jack Kemp, former Ambassador Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, and former Representative Vin Weber.[6]

FreedomWorks seeks to identify itself with two schools of thought: the Austrian School of economics and public choice theory. Through public choice theory, FreedomWorks legitimizes its mission and models itself after the Austrian School.[citation needed] Citizens for a Sound Economy is chaired by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey. Publisher Steve Forbes serves as Vice Chairman of Citizens for a Sound Economy.[citation needed]

President and CEO Matt Kibbe, a former aide to Republican Representative Dan Miller and a former staffer at the Republican National Committee, said that the group "will encourage Republicans -- and Democrats -- to take positions on issues of individual freedom." Armey said that "Ronald Reagan launched a political and intellectual revolution, and the Contract with America expanded it. Today, it’s time for the next wave.[citation needed]We have a rare window to make the big ideas of individual ownership and economic opportunity a political reality for all Americans. That’s the purpose of FreedomWorks."[citation needed]
Congressman Ron Paul was the first Chairman of CSE.[citation needed]

In 2009, FreedomWorks responded to the growing number of Tea party protests across the United States, and is currently one of several groups active in the "Tea Party" tax protests.[7]

On August 14 2009, after Armey's leadership of FreedomWorks became a problem to his employer, the lobbying and legal firm of DLA Piper, he was forced to resign from his job there. DLA Piper chairman Francis Burch responded that the firm serves clients “… who support enactment of effective health care reform this year and encourages responsible national debate." It is unknown whether this move will impact Armey's role with FreedomWorks. [8]

Deceptive "grass roots" movement imo.

Vince


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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:48:20 AM   
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In years?
How about the election of Barack Obama?


Obama's election surely was big news for its historic content. After all the pomp and circumstance of inauguration was over that began to change. "Change" that Obama hadn't bargained on. A year into his administration the impact of that election has fallen short of even his most ardent supporters' expectations. I suspect Senator Brown's election and its impact in Washington will be much greater and coincidentally will further affect Obama's impact.


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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 8:55:03 AM   
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I'm gonna take what you write here with a couple of pallets of rock salt because you're the same guy who "yawned" when I posted the news of Scott Brown's chances to win in Massachusetts.

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3004901

Which turned out to be one of the biggest political news stories in years.



And I am still yawning, it isnt a big deal at all, no bigger than the tea party shit that was touted so recently was a big deal.

If you were to bother with other than shallow junkie shit you would realize that Mass was a overwhelmingly republican state until kennedys got a mortal lock on it, in both senate, governor and legislature. Having the very powerful kennedy clan there did not leave any room for any up and coming strong democrats, you dont usually see a (dictator if you want) brook any form of will or initiative. Hell, you want to go to hyperbole? You all are fond of that. napoleons aftermath, regean/bush aftermath, bush aftermath....

There is no strong democrat in Mass for Mass. A mediocre republican wasted a good for nothing democrat.

Big fuckin surprise. I didnt find it so, it is expected, and damn near axiomatic.

Don't you know a fucking thing about shallow american politics?

Ron

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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 9:02:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomImus

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
In years?
How about the election of Barack Obama?


Obama's election surely was big news for its historic content. After all the pomp and circumstance of inauguration was over that began to change. "Change" that Obama hadn't bargained on. A year into his administration the impact of that election has fallen short of even his most ardent supporters' expectations. I suspect Senator Brown's election and its impact in Washington will be much greater and coincidentally will further affect Obama's impact.



I agree with you about Obama. I think you're overestimating Brown.

The Republicans aren't big on independent change-makers. They'll expect him to march in step, or they'll ostracize him.

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RE: I went to a party - 1/23/2010 9:14:29 AM   
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Oh, I see. Massachusetts. has been solidly Republican all this time... 

I guess I really don't know a fuckin' thing about American politics...




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