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ORIGINAL: heartcream

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ORIGINAL: vincentML



Sorry heartcream, it just seems like a load of bullshit to be debating about what happened to witches so long ago when in more recent history there have been far greater atrocities that dwarf those about which you are concerned.

I refer to the Black slavery holocaust, the slaughter of the indigenous people of the Americas, Stalin's murder of millions in the USSR, Mao's atrocities in China, the killings in Cambodia, Rwanda, East Timor, the Japanese in Mongolia, China, and SE Asia, and of course the German camps and ovens.

I refer also to the atrocity of poverty, lack of protein, clean drinking water, warmth and shelter, and ready medical assistance amongst the non-white peoples of the southern hemisphere; in the cities and rural districts of the USA right now, today!

With all of the horror of recent memory and that still on our doorstep, you choose unjustly murdered witches to be your cause? Something about which you can no longer do anything? Seems to be a misdirected waste of the talent of an intelligent and compasionate young woman.

Is the modern horror more than you can endure and so you turn away? Or are you unaware?

Are you freaking serious???

How do you get that by mentioning the freaking atrocities of days gone by, in one area (atrocities freaking abound in history and the present this is one area of toxic hateful bullshit crap) that in any way disputes the freaking horrors that have gone on since and now?

How do you make that conclusion?

My head is shaking in disbelief. Some of you people, honestly.

I didnt come in here trouncing witch killings as a freaking cause. Someone mentioned it and I thought in a derogatory way and said something about it.

I cannot understand why you think this in anyway negates all the massive amounts of horrors going on in the world now, and then. None of it dwarfs any of it. One evil and wrong thing done is wrong and evil, any where any time. None of it dwarfs any of it, it is all bad, it all sucks, it is all wrong, I would love to see justice done to each and every wrong done.

I am well aware of the gross misconduct of some of the monsters wandering our planet doing unspeakable things to two-legged flowers on our Earth. There is shite going on hat not even you know about.

I dont get your point at all. I turn away? You think modern horror any freaking different than any horror? What the feck you talkin about boy?

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Oh, wait, I forgot. That would constitute proof, and on this thread, proof is bad.

I'll keep working on it. I'm still used to reconciling ideas to reality. It's a hard habit to break.

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ORIGINAL: heartcream
What they are doing in the Congo etc is no freaking different is it? Here we are in 2010 and women with clits coming out over their labia are hunted down, and gang fucked, killed and then freaking eaten maing.

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debt mathematically can never be fully repaid.  Not with interest it can not.  All debt -to be paid in full- can simply can not happen when there is interest upon it.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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debt mathematically can never be fully repaid.  Not with interest it can not.  All debt -to be paid in full- can simply can not happen when there is interest upon it.

ALso- the sun flower is symbolic of sun worship.  You see this Illuminati item in the back ground in tv shows.    Once you keep an eye open - you find that symbolism is rampant in anything on TV/Movie screen.

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debt mathematically can never be fully repaid.  Not with interest it can not.  All debt -to be paid in full- can simply can not happen when there is interest upon it.

Hogwash. There is no debt that cant theoretically be repaid in full, with interest, regardless of the interest rate. Whether a certain can be repaid in practice is a different story, but if thats what you are talking about, which debt in particular are you referring to. And if its the national debt, hogwash again. There are perfectly reasonable assumptions wrt economic growth and or spending cuts, and interest rates where a current debt = 100% of GDP can be paid off.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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debt mathematically can never be fully repaid.  Not with interest it can not.  All debt -to be paid in full- can simply can not happen when there is interest upon it.

ALso- the sun flower is symbolic of sun worship.  You see this Illuminati item in the back ground in tv shows.    Once you keep an eye open - you find that symbolism is rampant in anything on TV/Movie screen.

Try this the next time the bank calls for their money......"look mate - debt can never be fully repaid and then there's sunflowers". I'd imagine the bank would have a different take on the matter...."right-o son - money now please".

Even the Germans could have paid reparations after WW1 - but chose not to do so.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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debt mathematically can never be fully repaid.  Not with interest it can not.  All debt -to be paid in full- can simply can not happen when there is interest upon it.

Hogwash. There is no debt that cant theoretically be repaid in full, with interest, regardless of the interest rate. Whether a certain can be repaid in practice is a different story, but if thats what you are talking about, which debt in particular are you referring to. And if its the national debt, hogwash again. There are perfectly reasonable assumptions wrt economic growth and or spending cuts, and interest rates where a current debt = 100% of GDP can be paid off.

So when say all the money in the world is loaned at 1%- then how to you gather that the extra 1% then exists-?

Of all the debt in the world- how can it possibly be repaid?   Not with interest- because it does not exist yet- unless the bank creates it.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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debt mathematically can never be fully repaid.  Not with interest it can not.  All debt -to be paid in full- can simply can not happen when there is interest upon it.

Hogwash. There is no debt that cant theoretically be repaid in full, with interest, regardless of the interest rate. Whether a certain can be repaid in practice is a different story, but if thats what you are talking about, which debt in particular are you referring to. And if its the national debt, hogwash again. There are perfectly reasonable assumptions wrt economic growth and or spending cuts, and interest rates where a current debt = 100% of GDP can be paid off.

So when say all the money in the world is loaned at 1%- then how to you gather that the extra 1% then exists-?

Of all the debt in the world- how can it possibly be repaid?   Not with interest- because it does not exist yet- unless the bank creates it.

Its impossible for all of the money in the world to be loaned.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

--but all dollars are debt. 

not an asset.

it is a promise- per federal reserve note.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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debt mathematically can never be fully repaid.  Not with interest it can not.  All debt -to be paid in full- can simply can not happen when there is interest upon it.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Try this the next time the bank calls for their money......"look mate - debt can never be fully repaid and then there's sunflowers". I'd imagine the bank would have a different take on the matter...."right-o son - money now please".

Even the Germans could have paid reparations after WW1 - but chose not to do so.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
Hogwash. There is no debt that cant theoretically be repaid in full, with interest, regardless of the interest rate. Whether a certain can be repaid in practice is a different story, but if thats what you are talking about, which debt in particular are you referring to. And if its the national debt, hogwash again. There are perfectly reasonable assumptions wrt economic growth and or spending cuts, and interest rates where a current debt = 100% of GDP can be paid off.

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ORIGINAL: MrMister
But sadly, the vast majority are not in the slightest bit interested in ever pursuing such an avenue, which by the way is precisely the way "the powers that be" prefer it.

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--but all dollars are debt. 

not an asset.

it is a promise- per federal reserve note.

This is made worse by the fact that an entity, namely the Federal Reserve, can simply print money on an as needed basis. Unfortunately, this will come to roost at some point in the future (who knows when), as this current juggling act simply cannot be sustained. And it definitely will be a horrific correction to have to endure.

In regards to conspiracy theories - Surely the majority of these conspiracy theories that have been thrown around are indeed false and seemingly started by unstable individuals; however, we really must look at each of them based upon the merits of each claim or instance. We shouldn't be so ready to summarily dismiss each and every one of them, particularly when solely based upon what we read or see in the main stream media. If we in fact are concerned citizens, we would take the time to make our own evaluations based upon the evidence that is readily available. Not simply take someone else's word on it, or take the lazy mans course of action and merely sit on the couch and do nothing but watch TV.  Some of these claims being made, at the very least, warrant being looked into by all who love liberty and freedom. Suffice it to say, if more folks would indeed take the time to get involved and/or investigate some of the claims being made, and have been made for many years now, more folks might very well be shocked at what they find. If we only approach these events/instances/theories with a truly open mind, more than likely we would generally find the preponderance of the evidence indicates that there is certainly something afoul or simply just doesn't add up. But sadly, the vast majority are not in the slightest bit interested in ever pursuing such an avenue, which by the way is precisely the way "the powers that be" prefer it. There are power in numbers and the more people who are aware, the greater the risk for those who are in control of the masses.

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ORIGINAL: MrMister

This is made worse by the fact that an entity, namely the Federal Reserve, can simply print money on an as needed basis. Unfortunately, this will come to roost at some point in the future (who knows when), as this current juggling act simply cannot be sustained. And it definitely will be a horrific correction to have to endure.

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: MrMister
But sadly, the vast majority are not in the slightest bit interested in ever pursuing such an avenue, which by the way is precisely the way "the powers that be" prefer it.

What I often see here is a tendency to declare people that don't believe the conspiracy theories as sheeple, dupes, lazy, etc.