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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:23:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kyoki

Okay, what? I would have listened to Jeff at first, but then I saw this post, Red.

I'll not ever change my personality just to get more responses. If you care so little about yourself that you'll change something about yourself just to get laid, then you go right ahead.

I've been convinced from a more constructive, and less offensive response to this situation. I will revise my journal, and tweak my profile. I will not change my personality just so I can get tail or experience under rope. If you have such little regard for yourself, good for you. Not me. I don't care if I get 0% of responses if that's what it would take.


Hi Kyoki,

I think... no wait I know that Jefff and RedMagic1 and Lucienne are sincerely wanting to help you. Sometimes the intention and the messages get lost in the text.

I truly hope that you remain true to yourself in your profile. Please be assured that no one here was suggesting otherwise. :-)

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:25:46 PM   
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I hope so... that's terribly shameless to do in reality.

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:26:31 PM   
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Red has high regard for himself. From what I can tell that regard is warranted.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that personal change is selling out. I don't know how old you are, I have not looked at your profile.

The one thing I can promise you is that you will have different thoughts and a different self view in 10 or 20 years. It doesn't matter how much you like your self now. Life changes us all.

Only an asshole ignores that.

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:26:48 PM   
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I hope so... that's terribly shameless to do in reality.


You'll come to realise that most people here have huge hearts and are truly well intentioned. The thing is, that you don't get to see the sincerity in their eyes through the screen ;-)

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:28:09 PM   
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Red has high regard for himself. From what I can tell that regard is warranted.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that personal change is selling out. I don't know how old you are, I have not looked at your profile.

The one thing I can promise you is that you will have different thoughts and a different self view in 10 or 20 years. It doesn't matter how much you like your self now. Life changes us all.

Only an asshole ignores that.


While I agree with you Jefff, don't you agree that he also has to remain true to himself? I mean otherwise he is pretending to be someone he's not...

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:29:21 PM   
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Kyoki there is a difference between changing yourself and changing your approach.

Here endeth the lesson


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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:33:40 PM   
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Yes.. but " yourself" changes..... it has to. I know a few folks who are true to who they were 30 years ago. It is sad.

Sometimes change happens slowly, sometimes it  hits like a bolt of lightening. There is danger in clinging to cloesly to things that don't serve us.

We all hope for this wisdom to see that which helps us and that which hurts us.

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:34:36 PM   
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It's not as if I'm rude in my approach though. I'm very courteous. I make a conscious effort for that. I just don't easily kiss ass. It urks me that I've seen people who do. I can't stand a suck-up.

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:35:37 PM   
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I'm not denying that I'll personally change in the future, that's a given with growing older. My point is that I won't change for another person, or much less, attention.

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:35:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Yes.. but " yourself" changes..... it has to. I know a few folks who are true to who they were 30 years ago. It is sad.

Sometimes change happens slowly, sometimes it  hits like a bolt of lightening. There is danger in clinging to cloesly to things that don't serve us.

We all hope for this wisdom to see that which helps us and that which hurts us.


Very well put. And yes, it is a slow evolution.

Thank goodness I'm not the same person I was 30 years ago.... as I was 7. But I was a little dommie then too! ;-)

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:38:11 PM   
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I'm not denying that I'll personally change in the future, that's a given with growing older. My point is that I won't change for another person, or much less, attention.


Dude.. it is people who usually bring the need to change to our attention. No one lives in a vacuum

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:38:20 PM   
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It's not as if I'm rude in my approach though. I'm very courteous. I make a conscious effort for that. I just don't easily kiss ass. It urks me that I've seen people who do. I can't stand a suck-up.


Kyoki -

Being truly courteous without coming across as an ass kisser is an art. Then again, some Dommes like ass kissers ;-)

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:38:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Yes.. but " yourself" changes..... it has to. I know a few folks who are true to who they were 30 years ago. It is sad.

Sometimes change happens slowly, sometimes it  hits like a bolt of lightening. There is danger in clinging to cloesly to things that don't serve us.

We all hope for this wisdom to see that which helps us and that which hurts us.


wow. Jeff being serious. what a concept. :)

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:40:19 PM   
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quote:

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I'm not denying that I'll personally change in the future, that's a given with growing older. My point is that I won't change for another person, or much less, attention.


Dude.. it is people who usually bring the need to change to our attention. No one lives in a vacuum

Kyoki - Jefff's right. But I think what is erking you the most is that all this advice to you was unsollicited. I'd be defensive too to be honest.

But try to see it as a gift rather. These are respectable and wise people that are trying to help you.

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:41:09 PM   
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shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. if word gets out my rep is SHOT..... you cunt!

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:42:22 PM   
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nods head...with the cunt comment...I feel the world is back to spinning on it's axis.

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:43:12 PM   
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Well of course there will be influences in life that will change you. People, things, TELEVISION (FLEE FROM THE GILMORE GIRLS), among other things. There's a lot of variables in it. Still though.

Lady: I am trying to master this, I swear.

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:43:29 PM   
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shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. if word gets out my rep is SHOT..... you cunt!


Now if that doesn't charm the panties off a girl... ;-)

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:44:04 PM   
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Also, I think we misunderstand. I'm not here to learn how to get others attention. I'm here to become a better sub, and perhaps a better dom.


You are fine. How could anyone be mad at a cute guy holding a kitty cat?

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RE: Wtf am I doing wrong? o.o - 1/28/2010 7:44:18 PM   
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I understand that you three are trying to help me, and I'm trying to come to understand that RedMagic was too. Although his method was really crude. I appreciate it.

I apologize if I came off as a dick.

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