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John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 10:38:34 AM

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100126/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_john_paul_ii

The article talks of other things, but I found this interesting and thought provoking and wondered what you all might think.

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 10:44:54 AM

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I am not surprised at all. Based upon what little I've read, it is not uncommon. Especially in times past. Seems silly to me, but that's just my personal opinion.

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 10:47:58 AM

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One time I was staying at my sister's and walked past her kids room and found the one spanking himself. I was pretty young too and didn't know a lot about these things... but man was I disturbed! lol Why would the child wish to spank himself? Was it an emotional need? Does he feel he is bad? What the hell? lol

I know some do these things for religious reasons... but I think of the many other reasons and wonder... lol

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 10:50:50 AM

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I am a frequent critic of the church, but John Paul II was a truly admirable figure. Not perfect, but all the more admirable because of his flaws.
Much of the respect and love I have for the Church is because of him.

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While it seems wildly incongruous or even blasphemous to link kinky spanking with religious self-mortification, they are in fact deeply connected; We often reach our deeper selves during periods of trial and pain and suffering.

The word "compassion" is derived from Latin- "Com" meaning with, and "passio" meaning pain; literally, to "suffer with".

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 10:51:23 AM

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eh I dunno...not to be sacreligious or anything, but a good whipping causes me to cry out for God and Jesus both!

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 10:53:35 AM

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It's the one type of self flogging the Catholics actually allow.

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 10:59:02 AM

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Are there other types of self flogging?

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 10:59:56 AM

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I think it's dysfunctional and not emotionally healthy. He must have "sinned" to spank himself.

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:02:43 AM

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I am trying to remember the details, but I believe it is regularly practiced by several religiouns. I am almost positive I have read about monks that do it en mass on a specific date. In addition, I saw something, perhaps on the travel channel where there were young men walking through the street as part of a religious ceremony, flogging themselves. It was someplace more remote in either China, Tibet, Vietnam.....something.

And then there is the device that some devout used to place around their thigh I believe, that dug in quite painfully.

For some reason I just remembered the old story about the hair shirt.

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:04:58 AM

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Dang... as hard as I try to stay away from the scary religion and politics... the thread gets moved there! lol Guess ya learn something every day...

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:05:53 AM

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So, according to the book referred to in the link, because JP Junior had a gorean slave fetish and liked sleeping on the floor, and because he enjoyed self-flagellation, there is a case for his canonization?

And people wonder why the Catholic church gets laughed at for being fucked up

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:06:10 AM

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quote:

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It was someplace more remote in either China, Tibet, Vietnam.....something.

India.

Plus Shiite mourners self flagellate.

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:07:51 AM

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The movie The Da Vinci Code... has some scenes with the man flogging himself and with that thing around his thigh. It still sticks in my mind! lol

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:08:25 AM

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Are there other types of self flogging?

Yes, but you go blind.

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:09:08 AM

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You laugh, but you obviously never got jizz in your eye after giving a hand-job to your boyfriend

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:13:22 AM

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:13:36 AM

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You laugh, but you obviously never got jizz in your eye after giving a hand-job to your boyfriend .

I hear it stings.

I have anectdotal evidence only.

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:14:17 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

It was someplace more remote in either China, Tibet, Vietnam.....something.

India.

Plus Shiite mourners self flagellate.

Apparently the Philippines and parts of Latin America also.

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:16:04 AM

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Here's the worst part: one day, left eye. The next day, the other eye

. I never offered him that particular service again.

It doesn't sting: it literally makes you go blind, because it's so damned hot

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RE: John Paul II used belt to whip himself - 1/26/2010 11:18:20 AM

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Ever thought of sun glasses? Just askin... lol

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