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ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Obama and inconsistency (1/30/2010 12:59:20 PM)
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Absolutely true. However, the economy is now his. He spent a huge amount of our money for a stimulus, and the jobs have not resulted.
There is a huge difference between Bush and Obama in their words. But Obama has not produced clean breaks with Bush in the conduct of the wars, the bailout of the economy, etc.
I didn't like Bush's policies when Bush did them, and I don't like them when Obama does them either.
I feel like I'm standing at the checkout counter of the grocery store, telling the cashier, "Excuse me - I'm still waiting for my change, please."
I won't say I've completely given up on him yet, because he could still surprise me, but at this point I have no real expectations of him anymore. To me he has the look of a man who is in completely over his head in the executive role. I don't think he has any concept of what true leadership really is. Or if he does, he has no balls to do it. Either way it still comes out the same - no leadership.
Hi Panda! The stim is a three year roll out.
He really showed his stuff in Q&A with the Republican Caucus, I think.
Well, we'll see. Possibly. It might be a start. We'll see where he goes next. But even if it's so, it's about a year late. I have seen almost none of the substantive changes he promised on the campaign trail. He has spent the entire year doing business pretty much as usual, with very little variation from the Bush Administration.
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To me he has the look of a man who is in completely over his head in the executive role. I don't think he has any concept of what true leadership really is. Or if he does, he has no balls to do it.
Examples maybe?
Health care is a prime example. He showed absolutely no leadership on that at all. He set it in motion with broad, populist calls to action, and then stepped aside and let Congress fight over the details. Whenever the momentum stalled, he went on television and badgered both parties to get down to business and get the job done, but he never took a clear position and specified exactly what he wanted them to do. He deliberately distanced himself from the down-and-dirty, trying to stay above the fight to look Presidential and preserve his political capital, and articulating only vague objectives for what he wanted to see come out the other end. Almost all of which he backed off on whenever a poll suggested he might lose a few points if he fought for it.
Democratic leaders openly begged the man to come out and take a stand, to declare what he would and would not accept in a final bill, and he refused to do it. Just continued to harangue them for not getting it done. He looked more and more like a fool, constantly warning the American people about how critical it was that Congress finish this bill, but never once being able to explain exactly what the bill was going to do. That's terrible leadership, and his lack of effective leadership is the primary reason the republicans were able to stall it, gut it, and ultimately kill it. This failure is his failure. He wouldn't lead because he was afraid to lose.
And now he's lost everything. At this point, there is nothing that will get me out of the house and into the polling place this November. The democrats have finally lost me, once and for all, just as the republicans lost me several years ago. It's almost impossible for me to imagine ever voting democrat again. This party - his party - has shown that it is not capable of leading and governing. And there are many, many others who feel the same way.
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