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Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 4:52:47 AM   
Quivver


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Status: offline 		A question was asked in reply to one in the General question thread that I felt was worth bringing to you all.  The OP was about Sluts, and how one such Slut ( heehee, luv ya girl ) was fighting a bit of a battle with her own thoughts over actions. 

The statement I am bringing to you is this:
~ Men find nothing wrong with having multiple partners,
only women seem to think that is wrong. Now why is that? ~  
Your Thoughts?

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 5:00:42 AM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		b/c society states that the more partners a man has ,makes him virile and potent  and yada yada yada...
and for gals its that old madonna/ whore thing....
a man supposedly wants a whore in the bedroom lady in the living room sort of thing that is his whore alone or then she isnt marrage material if she gives freely to all.
good ole societal conditioning after the victorian era and even the 60's and 70's didnt change it ...ya know mom said dont give it out stop at second base...they wont buy the cow if the milk is free.haha
so woman are supposed to just seek/want one....
and instinctually speaking according to freud....the only 2 drives that exist are to reproduce and survive....
so having one strong man truly is all that is needed.....
okay i hope my thought make sense without enough coffee

reading all this, makes me understand why i love Gor

okay edited for those pre java typos

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 5:06:03 AM   
cillydom


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Status: offline 		I wouldn’t say all and I wouldn’t say that was gender specific.

It happens on both sides of the fence.

I’ve seen many dommes with stables.

I’ve written extensively about motivations in the d/s realm in another thread and on my profile.
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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 5:08:08 AM   
Quivver


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Status: offline 		couldnt agree with you more Fyreredsub, I was just hoping to hear it from the horses mouth!  got to admit I'm leaning more to Gor each day myself.

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 5:40:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not.... an easily answered question, too many variables involved. I think ..... the majority of woman today ......" DO NOT FEEL IT IS... "WRONG"  for them to have multi partners but, feel that ...if they do...other people will  judge them as "SLUTS".

Today..... Many  Women enjoy multi partners and are not... judged, as sluts but in fact are admired as "HONEY TRAPS  just as their Male counterparts are admired as COCKSMEN........and ......... some of these Women are sexually  SUBMISSIVES.. by nature....... The human libido........ IS THEE... MOST... complex mechanism of the brain and i , for one, have learned to just  ENJOY  it's dictates to me.  There really is  NO  rationalizing it's functions.........  

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 5:45:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fyreredsub
and instinctually speaking according to freud....the only 2 drives that exist are to reproduce and survive....
so having one strong man truly is all that is needed.....
okay i hope my thought make sense without enough coffee

reading all this, makes me understand why i love Gor

Fyrered, of your post, this is what I agree with. I think this is the drive behind why men want/have a stable and women look for the strongest to be with. I believe it's more then just a societal conditioning. I believe it's instinctual within us to be this way

But the rest was well said also.

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 6:10:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Quivver

A question was asked in reply to one in the General question thread that I felt was worth bringing to you all.  The OP was about Sluts, and how one such Slut ( heehee, luv ya girl ) was fighting a bit of a battle with her own thoughts over actions. 

The statement I am bringing to you is this:
~ Men find nothing wrong with having multiple partners,
only women seem to think that is wrong. Now why is that? ~  
Your Thoughts?


For me its because a) i tend to think that other women are automatically better than me in some way and b) I find it REALLY hard to direct my energy in more than one place at a time.


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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 6:43:16 AM   
Kiledar


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Status: offline 		When I first started dating (vanilla realtionships) I thought as a good little catholic boy, one guy one girl.  Hell I had not seen or felt a breast till I was 19 which for this day and age seems to be rare. Eventually I met My girl.  At that time we were still vanilla and somethign happened.  She became sexually involved with another.  From the way I was raised what she did was unforgivable  and I had to leave her.  But there was one thing that stopped Me.  I loved her and sat down and thought about it.  What is sex.  Is it an expression of love?  Is it a recreational activity?  Is it just for procreation?

It all comes down to the persons upbringing and thoughts on that question.  I came to the conclusion that while sex can be special between two that love eachother it can also be a stress reliever a recreational enjoyment and many other things.  As long as she was practicing safe sex and still came back to Me I had no probolems with it.  Even now that we have found the D/s lifestyle I sitll allow her to be used by others.  I am confident that no matter how good of a time she has with another she will return where she belongs.

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 7:01:06 AM   
Clothespingirl


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Status: offline 		Heck, I feel guilty and over-emotional just trying to find ONE man to have sex with.  I feel like a slut for just trying to get my physical needs met, even though there'll be no living with me until I do.

I guess angst and self-doubt are just part of the human condition! 

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 8:02:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think it's overgeneralizing.  I HAVE met men who were put off by my being such an active slut and being with so many partners and my choices in sexuality.  There are lots of men who think it's wrong.

However, I will say I see it more often in women.  Women tend to want more of an emotional connection so they don't GET having sex without it as easily or as often.  A lot of people in the scene are ok with being sluts ONLY if it's a possessive term of endearment- being "Master Wolfs Slut" is fine.  Just saying "Yeah I'm a big slut" isn't.

Not that being a slut precludes emotional sex- one of the many misunderstandings abut sluts.

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 8:23:37 AM   
AZHRDOM


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Status: offline 		A lot has more to do with nature than society, men are more natural sluts than women are generally, its nature's way of propagating the species.

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 8:24:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kiledar

When I first started dating (vanilla realtionships) I thought as a good little catholic boy, one guy one girl.  Hell I had not seen or felt a breast till I was 19 which for this day and age seems to be rare. Eventually I met My girl.  At that time we were still vanilla and somethign happened.  She became sexually involved with another.  From the way I was raised what she did was unforgivable  and I had to leave her.  But there was one thing that stopped Me.  I loved her and sat down and thought about it.  What is sex.  Is it an expression of love?  Is it a recreational activity?  Is it just for procreation?

It all comes down to the persons upbringing and thoughts on that question.  I came to the conclusion that while sex can be special between two that love eachother it can also be a stress reliever a recreational enjoyment and many other things.  As long as she was practicing safe sex and still came back to Me I had no probolems with it.  Even now that we have found the D/s lifestyle I sitll allow her to be used by others.  I am confident that no matter how good of a time she has with another she will return where she belongs.


There's nothing wrong with other partners, but if there is deceit involved, that's the breaker, for me.
 
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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 8:27:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I think it's overgeneralizing.  I HAVE met men who were put off by my being such an active slut and being with so many partners and my choices in sexuality.  There are lots of men who think it's wrong.



Very true. And I know quite a few guys that will have sex with a slut (or, "slut") but will show disgust towards her.

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 8:29:20 AM   
cillydom


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Status: offline 		hey! sluts need love too

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 8:41:17 AM   
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However, I will say I see it more often in women.  Women tend to want more of an emotional connection so they don't GET having sex without it as easily or as often. 

This makes more sense to me, and I agree with it completly.

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 8:45:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Quivver

Men find nothing wrong with having multiple partners,
only women seem to think that is wrong. Now why is that?


This must be slut day.

I would argue emphatically against that premise. Many females in fact do not have a problem with the idea of multiple sexual opportunities. The myth saying otherwise is perpetuated quite often by the female herself, in fact. Sexual interest in variety is not exclusive to the male alone, though it sometimes may seem so as the two sexes tend to make use of different mating stratagems. The male tends simply to be more obvious, and there are a number of Darwinian musings as to why that may be.


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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 9:47:24 AM   
shygirldesires


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Status: offline 		Lets take a step back......  women who have multiple partners are called sluts, men who have multile partners are called players.  What is the difference?

Most.....generalization LA.....nilla folk despise the word slut in reference to a woman as a slut means whore or ho....but being a player seems fully accepable.

Let's define the word S L U T before we devalue a person's moral and ethical emotional and mental frame of reference.

~ Men find nothing wrong with having multiple partners,
only women seem to think that is wrong. Now why is that? ~  
Your Thoughts?
We have all read the advice given to women who feel deceived, betrayed and rejected that their Dom has multiple partners ..... run, he's a liar, dishonesty is paramount...he's a player.

Emotionally women exquate sex with some sort of caring and intimacy... do men?  I dont think they do as much as women.  Sex is lust to men who have multiple partners...MY genralization LA.

What is right to one person is wrong to another...... what is wrong to one is right to another.

As a shared cumslut would i allow another to call me HIS slut? NEVER.

Players vs sluts....thats the question i see. 

i just thought....  i have read MANY times on the forums (differ sites as well) that a bi girl can have many "love interests"  but "her man" must be monogamous.... wah hypocricasy is that?  

more coffee......
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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 4:34:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		*smiles* it is the call of the wild and free

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 4:38:14 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		well my biological clock stopped ticking years ago,lol....
but now it is survival instinct.
i am too damn tired of living by societies standards and i find the more independant i am, the more i yearn for a strong Master to take that control.
once you have it in your life, going back to any other way of life is damn near impossible.
natural order is instinctual and primal and raw....(not to mention fantastic)

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RE: Sluts? requesting your thoughts - 3/25/2006 5:25:48 PM   
BrianSenior


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Status: offline 		I do not see it as being wrong for either to have more then one. Then again I am poly- so that would make sense ~BK~

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