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ORIGINAL: domiguy

are you a danish or a donut?

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ORIGINAL: luluwishes

Posted this on my journal and just wanted to share with a wider audience.

I don't think that just because you can do a task you are a submissive, I don't think that just because you can kneel you are a submissive, I don't think that just because you can take pain you are a submissive.

I think it goes deeper then that.
You can act all of the above, you can say the words "yes Sir, yes Mistress" and there be no meaning there at all.

I see often, a well rehearsed play....the "submissive" dances to the "Dominants" tune, the rules always being clear.....Dominant says....Submissive does.

But then the outfit comes off, the stage curtain closes and all walk away.

I don't knock it, each to their own. What I simply say is that there is more to it then that, it goes deeper....ingrained in your DNA perhaps, an integeral part of what makes you...well you.

but it takes the right person to find that side, to nuture it and allow it to blossom, but it is oh soo very worthwhile.

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If a sub falls in the woods, does anyone hear her?

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

If a donut doesn't have a hole it's a danish.

Perplexing shit.  Must get back to my journal and mull this over.

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ORIGINAL: osf

to me submission is a willingness to do that which you're not willing to do

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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If a sub falls in the woods, does anyone hear her?

Not if she is properly gagged

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: osf

to me submission is a willingness to do that which you're not willing to do

And that's why you're not a sub.

Cali

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ORIGINAL: osf

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: osf
to me submission is a willingness to do that which you're not willing to do

And that's why you're not a sub.

what's your excuse for not being a sub?

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: osf

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: osf
to me submission is a willingness to do that which you're not willing to do

And that's why you're not a sub.

what's your excuse for not being a sub?

My answer was serious.  Yours is... reminiscent of a five year old saying "I know you are but what am I".  I am a sub, you are not.  Well, you claim not to be.  It appears the jury is still out.

You saying what a submissive is, is like a heterosexual saying what a lesbian is.  It's all on the outside looking in.  You can identify what you want a person to do and to be for you, but that is only your perception, not what that person is.

Besides, the phrase you likely meant to use was "the willingness to do what they don't want to do".  You cannot willingly do something you are unwilling to do. 

Cali

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ORIGINAL: camille65

The problem that I see when people define things the way they want to define them instead of using accepted/standard definitions is that it so often leads to confusion.

Osf if you (for example please) are defining a submissive as LFH while talking to others who define a submissive as OLM or BHP but never as LFH then conversation will always be at odds. Even if one speaker is conveying something of worth it will be nearly impossible for the other to fully understand.

I really think that is what happens with your posts a lot of the time. You have had some interesting threads but something (beyond you being picked on) happens, there is some twist in the conversation like two levels that just can't meet in the middle.

ETA because the dog bumped me and I hit OK too soon!

Then things just turn into posts that are just jabs.

I will fully admit that I get uncomfortable reading threads that turn into what I see as unhappy, so maybe my perception has me totally off base. But I just don't get the impression that you want contentious threads and I'm hoping that they can turn out differently if you realize that definitions (by definition) need to have a common base.

Now I'm done rambling..