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ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:09:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

fake plane on the other hand is grey smokae and fire second.  LOLOLOL

now you will never convince one of these keyboard commandos however LOL



In your apparent complete ignorance of all things scientific, you are completely ignoring the fact that any explosive (whether it be a bomb or a cloud of jet fuel) will exhibit the same characteristics - flame first, turning to smoke as the fuel is combusted. You seem to think you're seeing smoke turning into flame (which is impossible), and that this somehow proves that the explosion is a bomb (which is illogical.) What you're seeing is a debris cloud composed partly of combustible material, including jet fuel, expanding outward for a second or two before being ignited. You just don't understand what you're seeing.




Musicmystery -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:13:01 PM)

Nor wants to.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:18:02 PM)

Yeah. That wouldn't be as exciting.




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:19:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

fake plane on the other hand is grey smokae and fire second.  LOLOLOL

now you will never convince one of these keyboard commandos however LOL


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

fake plane on the other hand is grey smokae and fire second.  LOLOLOL

now you will never convince one of these keyboard commandos however LOL



In your apparent complete ignorance of all things scientific, you are completely ignoring the fact that any explosive (whether it be a bomb or a cloud of jet fuel) will exhibit the same characteristics - flame first, turning to smoke as the fuel is combusted. You seem to think you're seeing smoke turning into flame (which is impossible), and that this somehow proves that the explosion is a bomb (which is illogical.) What you're seeing is a debris cloud composed partly of combustible material, including jet fuel, expanding outward for a second or two before being ignited. You just don't understand what you're seeing.



thanks for agreeing with me then telling me I am stoopid for being correct.  not sure what your point is in all that.

first that pic of the black smoke is a tiny little mig.

the smoke was not close to enough for the amount of fuel claimed to be on the planes.

there is clearly smoke first and fire second meaning it was a non fuel perimeter explosion.

that and you cannot account for enough cement to achieve that size cloud if you think you can I cant wait to see your data.

Oh and I forgot to add that is precisely how it would look if you had explosives along the perimeter and a few "small" cans of fuel inside the building that went off after the cement was blown. 




EbonyWood -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:20:11 PM)

I'm wondering if GREY/WHITE concrete being smashed by a plane would produce a ..wait for it...GREY cloud of smoke and dust.
 
Im also wondering if someone's brain exploding would reveal any grey matter at all.




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:21:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I guess you get one chance to get the ic posted right on this board huh?  LOL

so real plane is fire first jet balck smoke second.




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thats the amount of smoke from a tiny mig!  LMAO





Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:23:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

I'm wondering if GREY/WHITE concrete being smashed by a plane would produce a ..wait for it...GREY cloud of smoke and dust.
 
Im also wondering if someone's brain exploding would reveal any grey matter at all.


sure all you gotta do is jump in their with the other poster and demonstrate just how that much concrete dust got into the air and why we did not see the fire first and residual jet black smoke from what did they claim?  10,000 fucking gallons?  LMAO

I cant wait!

oh yeh and while you all are trying to figger out some really kool come back on that one....  dont forget to tell me whats up with all that gray smoke coming from the top of wtc 1.  :)









ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:40:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
thanks for agreeing with me then telling me I am stoopid for being correct.


You consistently display a complete inability to comprehend what you're reading. I never said anything at all about you being correct, and I am most certainly not agreeing with you. Neither am I calling you stooopid, or however you're spelling it now. What i said was that you are completely ignorant of all things scientific (which is obvious), and that you don't know what it is you're seeing. Which is equally obvious. I'm making no judgment of your intellect, because i don't know you. I'm saying your arguments are stupid, because that's exactly what they are.



quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
not sure what your point is in all that.


That seems clear, as well.



quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
first that pic of the black smoke is a tiny little mig.

the smoke was not close to enough for the amount of fuel claimed to be on the planes.


Says who? Show us your figures, please. How much smoke should 10,000 tons of jet fuel produce? And how much - exactly - was actually present?


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
there is clearly smoke first and fire second meaning it was a non fuel perimeter explosion.


What the hell is that?



quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
that and you cannot account for enough cement to achieve that size cloud if you think you can I cant wait to see your data.


Why are we talking about cement? What the hell are you talking about?




AnimusRex -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:44:31 PM)

See, I have resisted commenting on this topic, only because any attempt at arguing with conspiracy adherents is like arguing about the divinity of Jesus with a divinity student.
The positions are so hardened by faith, that any evidence contrary to their position is discarded, but the most slender wisps of evidence to bolster their claim is siezed upon and held on through thick and thin.

I could point to the NIST Report that debunks these things, or the Popular Mechanics report debunking the conspiracy myths, but usually that just adds fuel to the fire.

Part of the reason for this is that nothing can ever be proven with geometric finality. There will always be some tiny shred, some wisp of unexplained data that the theory cannot explain; the theory of evolution, the theory of gravitation, every theory of physics is just that, a theory that we use until a better one comes along.

For people who want to claim that controlled demolition brought down the tower, or that the White Hose was somehow directing it, it isn't enough to point to strange flashes of light or unusual colors of smoke; you need to put together some theory that explains how and when all these explosives were surreptitiously brought into the building and hidden without anyone's knowledge, and;

what happened to all the people on the aircraft, and;

how the Bush White House somehow perfected a code of silence among people who are proven, time and again, to be the most incompetent group of butt-fucking idiots ever to grace the halls of power.

Part of the allure of conspiracy theories is the air of triumphant democracy of ideas- as in "I am a bus driver, but my theory of thermochemical reactions of oxidation of non-ferrous metal in a dense environment of superheated gas and plasma is every bit as good as those fancy pants engineers who have been studying this subject for 30 years!"

Well guess what? It isn't. Science and technology is not a democracy, and your opinion is not equal to anyone elses.

Experts are called experts because, well they are. Its amazing to see people who can't spell thermomechanical suddenly begin speaking in tongues of structural and chemical engineering, like religious fanatics who suddenly start speaking in ancient Aramaic.

But you know, if you can put together a convincing explaination for how about athousand people conspired to blow up buildings using aircraft that don't exist, and make hundreds of passenger magically disappear, well...then we can talk.





EbonyWood -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:52:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

debunking the conspiracy myths, but usually that just adds fuel to the fire.



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Don't think I didn't notice, you sly dog.




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 11:35:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
thanks for agreeing with me then telling me I am stoopid for being correct.


You consistently display a complete inability to comprehend what you're reading. I never said anything at all about you being correct, and I am most certainly not agreeing with you. Neither am I calling you stooopid, or however you're spelling it now. What i said was that you are completely ignorant of all things scientific (which is obvious), and that you don't know what it is you're seeing. Which is equally obvious. I'm making no judgment of your intellect, because i don't know you. I'm saying your arguments are stupid, because that's exactly what they are.



quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
not sure what your point is in all that.


That seems clear, as well.



quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
first that pic of the black smoke is a tiny little mig.

the smoke was not close to enough for the amount of fuel claimed to be on the planes.


Says who? Show us your figures, please. How much smoke should 10,000 tons of jet fuel produce? And how much - exactly - was actually present?


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
there is clearly smoke first and fire second meaning it was a non fuel perimeter explosion.


What the hell is that?



quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
that and you cannot account for enough cement to achieve that size cloud if you think you can I cant wait to see your data.


Why are we talking about cement? What the hell are you talking about?



Dooooood  the record is already made and yo uare a day late a 10 bucks short.

my first comments on the matter stated flash first smoke later.

pretending to correct me is frankly funny.

You do not really need to be a rocket scientist to look at the wtc and know that if it happens in reverse something is wrong.

get it?

That was my point and in so far as your how much well again you do not need ot be a rocket scientist to know that if a mig holds 1000 gallons and they claim 10,000 went up in flames that is 10 times more you think?






Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 11:50:29 PM)

quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

See, I have resisted commenting on this topic, only because any attempt at arguing with conspiracy adherents is like arguing about the divinity of Jesus with a divinity student.
The positions are so hardened by faith, that any evidence contrary to their position is discarded, but the most slender wisps of evidence to bolster their claim is siezed upon and held on through thick and thin.

I could point to the NIST Report that debunks these things, or the Popular Mechanics report debunking the conspiracy myths, but usually that just adds fuel to the fire.

Part of the reason for this is that nothing can ever be proven with geometric finality. There will always be some tiny shred, some wisp of unexplained data that the theory cannot explain; the theory of evolution, the theory of gravitation, every theory of physics is just that, a theory that we use until a better one comes along.

For people who want to claim that controlled demolition brought down the tower, or that the White Hose was somehow directing it, it isn't enough to point to strange flashes of light or unusual colors of smoke; you need to put together some theory that explains how and when all these explosives were surreptitiously brought into the building and hidden without anyone's knowledge, and;

what happened to all the people on the aircraft, and;

how the Bush White House somehow perfected a code of silence among people who are proven, time and again, to be the most incompetent group of butt-fucking idiots ever to grace the halls of power.

Part of the allure of conspiracy theories is the air of triumphant democracy of ideas- as in "I am a bus driver, but my theory of thermochemical reactions of oxidation of non-ferrous metal in a dense environment of superheated gas and plasma is every bit as good as those fancy pants engineers who have been studying this subject for 30 years!"

Well guess what? It isn't. Science and technology is not a democracy, and your opinion is not equal to anyone elses.

Experts are called experts because, well they are. Its amazing to see people who can't spell thermomechanical suddenly begin speaking in tongues of structural and chemical engineering, like religious fanatics who suddenly start speaking in ancient Aramaic.

But you know, if you can put together a convincing explaination for how about athousand people conspired to blow up buildings using aircraft that don't exist, and make hundreds of passenger magically disappear, well...then we can talk.




you deserve an academy award for that one!

So lets play "HUNT THE INFERNO"!!!

nope nuttin over there, hmm not over there either!

Ok I give up your turn!



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oh and btw, the guberment is claiming the conspiracy and anyone that agrees with them not I my friend.

Its their conspiracy theory and I do not have to show one damn thing of how they did it or could have accomplished it.

just show the evidence does not match the claim and that is seen through out this whole bullshit story of theirs.

so dont bother asking me how they did it because I dont give a damn and neither would a court.

fact is the evidence does not match the claim.  if the evidence does not match the claim their conspiracy theory is bullshit.




rachel529 -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/5/2010 12:25:38 AM)

if you really thought that youd be going after the pentagon impact instead of the towers...  im not agreeing with you-  but if all you have to do is poke a hole in one part, why not pick the part that had the fishiest video and circumstances?




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/5/2010 12:57:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rachel529

if you really thought that youd be going after the pentagon impact instead of the towers...  im not agreeing with you-  but if all you have to do is poke a hole in one part, why not pick the part that had the fishiest video and circumstances?


its all bullshit!

literally all the video, any pic with airplanes, the idea that a plane flying 300+ knots wings will clip off how many? 6 of those poles without shearing off the wings and engines, well I am sorry but that frankly is well, its laughable that anyone would even consider such foolishness much less buy the gig.

pentagon is the same shit.

no hole in this case through hole.

plane parts that can all be loaded on one truck.

Hell I have a video from a private person that shows a demolition truck driving away from the wtc right after the explosions.

Want the name?  Manhattan demolition!

LOL

People need to realize it is all about MONEY and POWER and screw us.  Kill us if necessary whatever works!

present for ya....sorta makes you wonder how that corner got blown out on the north side of the north tower.

These people that bought the gubes conspiracy theory have shit loads of problems defending it now dayze LMAO




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Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/5/2010 1:06:40 AM)



people are afraid for their lives.

in america

is that what we call freedom?

it will stay that way as long as people believe the trash the guberment puts up.

here is april gallop; said it was a bomb, grabbed her kid and walked right on out that inferno fire that magically started in that hole.

That was her interview, well until they aired it on the net, then all of a sudden her story changed.  Like most people who told the truth.  for some really wierd reason their stories always change.

thats the light of a free country shining through!  honest!  :)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5979240758347032057




Rule -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/5/2010 1:48:57 AM)

It is interesting that she said that her watch stopped at nine thirty.




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/5/2010 6:38:45 AM)

yeh sorta goes hand in hand with this one

they lied the core was really made of icicles!


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Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/5/2010 6:43:10 AM)

and this one LOL

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kittinSol -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/5/2010 6:49:39 AM)

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You have made me love the idea of guns [;)] .




Lucylastic -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/5/2010 6:57:21 AM)

I have offending parties on ignore, makes more sense:)
squishes the angry Kitten




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