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rulemylife -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 8:43:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

So another eye-witness dud.


What in the hell is wrong with you?

Do you people have such empty lives that you have to cling to this nonsense?

There were plenty of eyewitnesses to the planes hitting the towers, I know two personally. 

There were plenty of eyewitnesses interviewed on newscasts directly after.

In fact, I was in DC when the plane hit the Pentagon and initially the local news reported it as a bomb until numerous eyewitnesses came forward to describe what happened.




Rule -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 8:55:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
In fact, I was in DC when the plane hit the Pentagon and initially the local news reported it as a bomb until numerous eyewitnesses came forward to describe what happened.

I investigated all of these purported witnesses. They all lied.




rulemylife -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 8:57:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
I watched the second (obviously imaginary) plane hit

That would be Flight 175 hitting the South Tower (WTC2). That plane was one of the two that did exist, but it landed elsewhere.



Where?

You've asked others to provide details, provide some of your own.




Rule -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 8:58:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
There were plenty of eyewitnesses to the planes hitting the towers, I know two personally. 

So tell me their names and everything you know about them on the other side. I promise whatever degree of confidentiality that you require.




Rule -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 8:59:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Where?

You've asked others to provide details, provide some of your own.

Whatever for?




rulemylife -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 8:59:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
In fact, I was in DC when the plane hit the Pentagon and initially the local news reported it as a bomb until numerous eyewitnesses came forward to describe what happened.

I investigated all of these purported witnesses. They all lied.



So I guess this is all a game and a big amusement for you just to stir people up.




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:04:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Rule, what you are saying about the LIVE footage of the second plane hitting the second tower is faked, which means that every reporter, cameraman, producer present for EVERY NETWORK was in on the conspiracy.

I could make 1/2 of new york think a plane hit if I did a flyby and blew the building as I went by as they would ne see me leave. 


Perhaps you are too young to know about IRAN/CONTRA, which was a classified operation during the Reagan era. The whole CIA operation was blown by one man who decided to talk about what he knew, regardless of the fact that by doing so would have landed his ass in a federal prison, for a minimum of 25 years (check the penalties for violating the national secrets act or violating a security blackout under the UCMJ.) He was given immunity by congress for his testimony, while others tried to cover it up.

well thats one way but its not the only way.  How many times have the news reported about bombs being removed from murrah yet no one stopped mcveigh from taking the fall.

How about waco?  over a damn 200 dollar gun license.

We just follow the pied piper and if the pied piper says thems the bad evil ones we all pull flags out of our back pockets wave em around.

There is no way that someone somewhere would open his mouth to congress or some other public forum that would cover his or her ass. You dont think that congress would have given someone immunity for the truth?

Congress doesnt want to look at it.


No, the people involved, everyone would have to be eliminated or held somewhere incommunicado. Since there are only a few places in the country that can be done, and we would be talking about a few hundred if not a few thousand people, the large increase of prison population would be noticed.

no they wouldnt.  only takes a few mercs to do the grunt work and a few who make the money, neither of which have any incentive to talk about anything.

Silverstein talked and the idiots in this country who cant spell their own name defend the fuck.

it has everything to do with the ignorance of the people and little to do with the reality of the operation.

In case you haven't noticed, there have been more people working in classified areas coming forward to talk about what they have been doing while the government has tried to keep a lid on it. Covert operatives have had their covers blown, the Aurora spy plane project has been all but confirmed, hell you can even get up to the hour satellite photos of area 51. Google earth has it as a set search point.

and that ic completely meaningless, true as that might be.


Let me give you an alternative theory that is more logical and makes sense, at least to someone that was in a covert ops unit in the army.


1) The Bush Administration needed a reason to go to war. They had been warned by outgoing Clinton Intel agency heads that Al Qaeda was planning something big. They were briefed by their own people in August. They purposely ignored the information as 'UNFOUNDED," while telling a select few intel people to sit on the information.

administrations get stuck with and find themselves in situations is more like it.


2) The state department issued visas to the 9/11 terrorists to enter the country, even though many of them were a terrorist watch list. Since the CIA has a presence in every embassy, I would say that a select few CIA operatives were responsible for the visas being issued, probably having been told that the men would be under surveillance after entering the country which didn't happen.

now that I could buy, the perps rarely know they are perps.


3) During the terrorists trips to the US prior to 9/11, they all took flight training at various flight schools (confirmed facts) and nothing was done because the surveillance was either non-existent, or done poorly.

seems to me none of them could fly.  if you were in covert ops then you would know about duplocity triplity ect and you would know that is wonderful pupy chow for public consumption.


4) On 9/11, despite being on watch lists, these men boarded aircraft as passengers, somehow getting knives through security (Ceramic blades have been around for awhile and don't trip metal detectors) and again, surveillance was either poorly done or non existent. The planes were crashed into the buildings and the field in PA.

sounds good!  that what they say all right!


5) During the 9/11 congressional hearings, Intelligence analysts repeatedly said that the intel was there, credible and not acted on. The President had been briefed and failed to act on the information. The Bush claimed that the only thing he had been briefed on was the fact that an attack was imminent.

yeh pretty much like pearl.  when you need them they are indisposed or looking the way.


6) Bush got his war in Afghanistan,

that was blairs


and used Al Qaeda as one reason to invade Iraq. The first reason was that Iraq had WMD's, which the Intel community kept saying there was no evidence for such a claim, then after no WMD's were found, President Bush then claimed that Hussain had connections to Osama Bin Laden, which also turned out to be false. It was proven that Hussain had all Al Qaeda operatives found in Iraq executed.

The brilliance about this theory is that only one or two people may have known about the over all plan, OR most likely, with the budget for counter terrorism operations both foreign and domestic was at an all time low, there really was no personnel available to keep the terrorists under 24/7 watch.

no funding?  thats funny!

yup thats what they tell you alright.  that they need mo money! mo money! mo money! mo money! mo money! mo money! mo money! mo money! mo money! mo money!

works every time!

LOL

Well unless you are homeless beggar then it does not work so well.


saddam did have wmds, they were called euros.


Everyone seemed to testify that they were concerned with another bombing, not a hijacking. Strangely enough, after the fact, there was a number of reports that these men had been attending flight training.

yeh but nothing can top the fbi's wonderful fortune to find attas id floating down at his feet and shit in the trubk of a car.  that was just awesome!  ait tight case! LMAO


Now, considering that the money trail to Al Qaeda

the one we made in support of the mujahahahahadeen?  another really tough find. 


has shown it is a well funded organization, it is not beyond reason that they had the funds to pay for the schools. After 9/11 assets even remotely linked to Al Qaeda were frozen in the US and other countries.

whats a 911 asset?


Another strange point is that Israeli operated businesses in the WTC were closed, or I should say,

yeh it was on odega too.


were allegedly closed on 9/11, implying that the Israelis were aware of something happening on 9/11 concerning the WTC, and had their people avoid the Trade Center on the day in question.

no they were just dancing on top of their cars et al and braggin on israeli tv how they came to FILM THE "EVENT".  nothing suspicious there.

The above scenario makes logical sense, and has precedent, considering that hours prior to Pearl Harbor, information that confirmed the impending declaration of war was in the hands of the war department, the war warning was sent to all over seas commands as a standard cable, NOT as priority, which meant that delivery would not have been rushed.

everyone else in the world confirmed that our plan to get the japs to attack us to get the reluctant american people into the war was working well.

In fact, the cable to General Short arrived after the attacks were already underway, as a standard cable, and took another couple of hours to be decoded.


wmds were euros.
fortunately we created a huge police state with how many bases? over there to insure the captured oil rich land can be exploited to our benefit




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:09:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Rule

So another eye-witness dud.


What in the hell is wrong with you?

Do you people have such empty lives that you have to cling to this nonsense?

There were plenty of eyewitnesses to the planes hitting the towers, I know two personally. 

There were plenty of eyewitnesses interviewed on newscasts directly after.

In fact, I was in DC when the plane hit the Pentagon and initially the local news reported it as a bomb until numerous eyewitnesses came forward to describe what happened.




yeh the truth usually does come out in the very first moments of these kinds of events.

I especially liked the one where the guy was arguing with the news reported that no plane hit the towers. 

The best part was the reporter said, "IT WAS A PLANE!"

WE SAW IT ON TV!!!


I am telling ya man that was precious.




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:19:32 PM)

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n utmost detail.
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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
Yes, I am a "genuine eye-witness". What I said was that what I saw live, in person, with my own eyes, is exactly what was shown on the newsreels.

So you saw the event live. So pray tell what you did see. I have no interest in what television shows. I want to hear the genuine eye-witness testify in utmost detail.

And never mind the collapse of the towers. What I am interested in is the plane that you said you saw hit.


yeh the one thing that is truly amazing about the wtc is the great number of conspiracy theorists that believe 10 hijackers did the dirty, its beyond amazing how many I have seen come out here with grand claims, and there is never a shortage of experts or witnesses that show up just in the nick of time to save the day with a smart meaningless quip when these geys get their butts kicked around on the boards.  Its really funny watching how they operate.

Of course when you put them on the hot seat the clam up and run like hell or tell the most outlandish stories!






Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:24:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
You are going to sit at your keyboard and claim that every person that witnessed the impacts were accounted for? What about workers for the port across the river that saw the impacts, at least two hundred were working the docks on that day, and you are going to claim that none of them saw anything? You are going to say the hundreds of people on the ferry to the statue of liberty saw nothing? You are going to claim that after the first impact no one stood at office windows and stared at the twin towers when the second plane hit? You are going to claim that the people evacuating from the first tower and happened to look up saw nothing or were paid to say there was a plane that hit the building?

Yes.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
The flaw with the conspiracy theory that no one even considers is that with the shear number of people involved would have to be kept quiet, paid off or eliminated, then the ones that eliminated the ones directly involved would have to be paid off or eliminated. The process soon reaches exponential numbers. Sooner or later some one would talk, hell there have been people who have talked about lesser secrets that have been carried out by the government. It has been proven that no one can keep a secret, even with threat of prison.

So let us assume that you were one of the people on the team that planted the bombs in the two towers. Your reward is your heart's desire: say the hat of your departed grandmother that was blown of her head during the storm of 1972. What motive do you have for speaking and risking losing that hat, who are you going to tell and why do you want that person to die?




rule....most people never seen a real plane go in and have no clue what to expect.

most are nothing more than keyboard commandos.


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thornhappy -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:28:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Another strange point is that Israeli operated businesses in the WTC were closed, or I should say, were allegedly closed on 9/11, implying that the Israelis were aware of something happening on 9/11 concerning the WTC, and had their people avoid the Trade Center on the day in question.

That part's been disproven the last I heard.




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:29:41 PM)

I guess you get one chance to get the ic posted right on this board huh?  LOL

so real plane is fire first jet balck smoke second.




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thornhappy -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:30:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
If no planes were involved, where did the engine parts, seats, landing gear assemblies, etc. come from, that were scattered for blocks around?

Indeed.


C'mon, fer Christ's sake.  What is that supposed to mean?  That "they" planted that stuff in the buildings?  Magically spirited them to the streets?




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:31:33 PM)

fake plane on the other hand is grey smokae and fire second.  LOLOLOL

now you will never convince one of these keyboard commandos however LOL


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thornhappy -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:32:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
yeh the truth usually does come out in the very first moments of these kinds of events.

That's bogus beyond belief.  The Ft Hood shootings are a great example of how screwed up early reporting of a devastating event is.




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:33:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
If no planes were involved, where did the engine parts, seats, landing gear assemblies, etc. come from, that were scattered for blocks around?

Indeed.


C'mon, fer Christ's sake.  What is that supposed to mean?  That "they" planted that stuff in the buildings?  Magically spirited them to the streets?



the amount of parts found could easily fit on a flatbed truck LOL




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:36:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
yeh the truth usually does come out in the very first moments of these kinds of events.

That's bogus beyond belief.  The Ft Hood shootings are a great example of how screwed up early reporting of a devastating event is.



i am not talking about what the reporters say I am talking about what the people say.




jlf1961 -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:46:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
If no planes were involved, where did the engine parts, seats, landing gear assemblies, etc. come from, that were scattered for blocks around?

Indeed.


C'mon, fer Christ's sake.  What is that supposed to mean?  That "they" planted that stuff in the buildings?  Magically spirited them to the streets?



the amount of parts found could easily fit on a flatbed truck LOL




And nobody on the streets saw a flatbed truck with crash debris driven into ground zero and unloaded while people were digging in the rubble?




Real0ne -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 9:48:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy
If no planes were involved, where did the engine parts, seats, landing gear assemblies, etc. come from, that were scattered for blocks around?

Indeed.


C'mon, fer Christ's sake.  What is that supposed to mean?  That "they" planted that stuff in the buildings?  Magically spirited them to the streets?



the amount of parts found could easily fit on a flatbed truck LOL




And nobody on the streets saw a flatbed truck with crash debris driven into ground zero and unloaded while people were digging in the rubble?


somebody did, I have a pic of it somewhere.

they saw that big assed yellow trailer hidden in the bushes at the pentagon by those poles too and took a pic of that too!






Musicmystery -> RE: SENATE BURGLARY: CIA DOMESTIC BLACK-OP TEAM ARRESTED (2/4/2010 10:07:15 PM)

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WE SAW IT ON TV!!!

I am telling ya man that was precious.


Yeah. "We read it on the Internet!" is so much better.




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