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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 12:51:12 AM

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This is a reply to the OP.

Funny how you mention that now after my discussion with my Mother the other day. She said "Yup, you got all the diseases you are supposed to get". We got measles, German measles, mumps, chicken pox and whatrever, pretty much on schedule as she put it. From the doc we got suggestions for ointments like calamine lotion and such, rather than a phone book full of prescriptions. The sawbones said "Just let it run it's course, it bulds their immune system:" which is something she already knew. We all knew it, she told us. We got about a week off school and I read alot, and learned of course.

And I brought up one I can't quite recall completely, if you get it as a kid you are immune to it, but if you get it as an adult it will sterilize you, something like that. She remembers, and so do I.

She used to punch me in the stomach at random, at first lightly, but progressively harder. In time, the energy spent on just being ready for that helped me shed that baby fat, and build a fairly good structure. Good enough that around 40 I was still having 200 lb guys stand on my chest as I smoked a cigaretter. That did come to an end when I got older and hurt because of it, but still today I could be worse off if it hadn't gone that way.

Today, you don't even want to know half of what they fucking do to us. Take your pills, be happy. Drown your filet mignon of life with cheapo ketchup from Pfizer. It's you'r call.

Thanks anyway but I will pass.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 1:07:28 AM

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Termy you are so full of shit it is amazing.

By the 60's when you were a kid you were required to get innoculations against most of the childhood diseases before you could attend school. This includes measles, mumps, rubella, pertussis, polio and smallpox. The only childhood infection that you probably actually got was chicken pox as the vaccine for that is much newer.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 1:31:53 AM

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Termy you are so full of shit it is amazing.

Growing up with a mother who would randomly punch ones stomach might just have something to do with that.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 1:34:01 AM

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A great deal of the increase in numbers of documented autism cases is due to the widening of the category. What was once 'autism' is now Autism Spectrum Disorders and is an umbrella of numerous conditions with at times quite similar issues. 1 in 150 kids get identified. But that can be a variety of specific diagnoses. Autism isnt the same stereotype it was 20 years ago. And its through the observing of day to day behavior that it most often can be found. Teachers and parents see the signs the soonest, then add in the doctors for the final opinion.
We have a son with a form of autism, a brilliant little blessing. He's had all of his vaccines up to date, except for any that are live active vaccines (MMR/Chickenpox) since he was 9. He did get those before he was 9. At 9 due to an autoimmune issue he cant have live shots now.
We dont blame vaccines at all. Diet maybe though. Its all about education as others have said. I get blistering pissed when some kid in his school shows with one of the vaccine viruses because ours has almost no immune system. So yes their choices affect the rest of the world.
Its about time the article was denounced, but it will take a long time to undo the damage it caused.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 6:24:09 AM

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...god is more powerful then big brother.

and gods way is the natural way. even Nancy Reagan- would say- "Just Say No". Man that was great advice.

I am living proof that fluoride is bad.

/ a word about Term being full of shit.

Well at least it is natural and organic. This is not the case when the plastics corporation jumps inside of your body with you. It breathing can never trump you breathing for you. As it can not breath for you. It is not life. Not at all.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 6:32:13 AM

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Hopefully the Mods will be along soon to erase any mention of Nancy Reagan.

I was eating my breakfast.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 6:49:18 AM

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...god is more powerful then big brother.

and gods way is the natural way. even Nancy Reagan- would say- "Just Say No". Man that was great advice.

I am living proof that fluoride is bad.

/ a word about Term being full of shit.

Well at least it is natural and organic. This is not the case when the plastics corporation jumps inside of your body with you. It breathing can never trump you breathing for you. As it can not breath for you. It is not life. Not at all.

“Breathing”

Grasping for straws is easier;
You can see the straws.

“This most excellent canopy, the air, look you,”
Presses down upon me
At fifteen pounds per square inch,
A dense, heavy, blue-glowing ocean,
Supporting the weight of condors
That swim its churning currents.
All I get is a thin stream of it,
A finger’s width of the rope that ties me to life
As I labor like a stevedore to keep the connection.

Water wouldn’t be so circumspect;
Water would crash in like a drunken sailor,
But air is prissy and genteel,
Teasing me with its nearness and pervading immensity.

The vast, circumambient atmosphere
Allows me but ninety cubic centimeters
Of its billions of gallons and miles of sky.

I inhale it anyway,
Knowing that it will hurt
In the weary ends of my crumpled paper bag lungs.
—Mark O’Brien, 1988

http://americanhistory.si.edu/polio/howpolio/ironlung.htm

Want to talk about breathing, pa?

Want to bring back the iron lungs for children?

and want to explain what the hell you are referring too about flouride?

i swear, i wish i had your address and lived close enough, i would come slam your pills down your throat daily because you are getting scarrier.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 7:22:40 AM

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Our son was Dx'd with an autism spectrum disorder in 2007. We do not blame vaccines in any way shape or form. We believe it is a combination of heredity and environment. I think it is a vocal minority that believe vaccines to be the cause. Our son is 10 years old and fully up to date on his vaccinations because the evidence heavily supports that vaccinating against childhood diseases is both beneficial and safe. He even received the H1N1 vaccine...we are such heathens.

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ORIGINAL: BelleRose

A great deal of the increase in numbers of documented autism cases is due to the widening of the category. What was once 'autism' is now Autism Spectrum Disorders and is an umbrella of numerous conditions with at times quite similar issues. 1 in 150 kids get identified. But that can be a variety of specific diagnoses. Autism isnt the same stereotype it was 20 years ago. And its through the observing of day to day behavior that it most often can be found. Teachers and parents see the signs the soonest, then add in the doctors for the final opinion.
We have a son with a form of autism, a brilliant little blessing. He's had all of his vaccines up to date, except for any that are live active vaccines (MMR/Chickenpox) since he was 9. He did get those before he was 9. At 9 due to an autoimmune issue he cant have live shots now.
We dont blame vaccines at all. Diet maybe though. Its all about education as others have said. I get blistering pissed when some kid in his school shows with one of the vaccine viruses because ours has almost no immune system. So yes their choices affect the rest of the world.
Its about time the article was denounced, but it will take a long time to undo the damage it caused.

< Message edited by BeingChewsie -- 2/3/2010 7:23:04 AM >

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 7:57:45 AM

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hell no.

I choose my drugs. Not someone else. I choose what is right for me. No one else. That is not negotiable.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 8:08:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
And I brought up one I can't quite recall completely, if you get it as a kid you are immune to it, but if you get it as an adult it will sterilize you, something like that. She remembers, and so do I.

That's mumps. It makes your glands swell up, including your prostate, which can be disastrous if you've already gone through puberty.

I trust you got the innoculations for polio and TB at least? Coming down with either of those won't just build up your immune system.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 8:09:38 AM

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hell no.

I choose my drugs. Not someone else. I choose what is right for me. No one else. That is not negotiable.

You want to explain how a 3 year old makes informed choices about the drug or treatment they need?

You, cant, so maybe a little bit of shush now. You're making even less sense than usual, which is saying something.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 8:11:42 AM

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hell no.

I choose my drugs. Not someone else. I choose what is right for me. No one else. That is not negotiable.

So if you had diabetes you'd refuse to take insulin, then? You'd disdain to take interferon if your liver was fucked up?

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 8:42:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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hell no.

I choose my drugs. Not someone else. I choose what is right for me. No one else. That is not negotiable.

So if you had diabetes you'd refuse to take insulin, then? You'd disdain to take interferon if your liver was fucked up?

Thankfully I am blessed not to have diabetes right now. I hope my good health prevails.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 8:48:43 AM

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And you are avoiding questions. What would you do if you had diabetes? And why is flouride an issue for you, pa?

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 9:54:31 AM

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And you are avoiding questions. What would you do if you had diabetes? And why is flouride an issue for you, pa?

1. take the treatment
2. fluoride is rat poisoning and should not be in the water supply. Many places no longer add it into the water.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 9:57:00 AM

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you must have some hellofa breath and not much for teeth then.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 10:03:41 AM

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Knowing what they put into water at treatment plants, i would consider flouride the least of my worries. And as long as i have been drinking flourinated water, i feel pretty damn good to have been poisoned for so long.

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If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 10:34:02 AM

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Now that this fairy tale has been out to rest

It's worse than a fairy tale. This was all concocted to line his pockets.

Discredited? He should be tried.

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 10:34:02 AM

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Look. I really am quite busy today and do not have the time to spoon feed Ron and Tazz and a few others.

your gratitude to the grid is noted.

The information is out there, available.

So you are the horse I lead to the water-   and you prefer to drink Hitlers toxic rat poisoning chemical which was designed to make prisoners docile.

Enjoy your brave new world.     Maybe tomorrow I can respond further.     But it is pointless- because youns believe that centralized power is the answer.

Even with this past budget - which spends billions on drones- and the Supreme court favoring corporate speech-   you fail to see that fluoride is a scam.

Even with trillions spend on Goldman Sachs- you think all is well in the world.      You are so fluoridated you don't even know that you have been robbed. Robbed of your wealth and your retirement.

Your life is a useless link farm and a call center menu to no where.

Anyhow- some will never "get it".     So whatever.--------------

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RE: Lancet Renounces Paper Linking Autism, Vaccine - 2/3/2010 10:39:04 AM

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LOL

so because i drink flourinated water, im stupid and being robbed?

pa, please, get help, talk to someone, get back on your meds.

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