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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/3/2010 6:00:17 PM   
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Women are women. Meh.

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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/3/2010 6:49:32 PM   
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Not at all. My thinking processes are the same as when in a nilla marriage. I am pretty much the same person I was when he met me. Although as Aqua says, he has of course influenced me and I have influenced him. I am not, thank God, a tabula rasa or chameleon who changes drastically with every single person I am with.

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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/3/2010 8:18:56 PM   
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as a submissive woman do you think you think about and see things differently than nilla women?

Yes, I do think I see things differently. I acquiesce more because I like the way it makes me feel. I don't know that that's a submissive vs. vanilla thing. That's just a difference I notice between myself and others, very often.



I am just wondering how acquiescence is related to the way you think? I am not being snarky I just thought it was interesting


I like the way it makes me feel to bend my way of looking at something or change my reaction in order to make someone else's time of it easier. When it's truly a matter of the heart or soul or happiness of another person, I am constantly learning to step back and sit down and allow the other person to shine and grow. It makes me feel good to take on a little bit of sacrifice so someone else doesn't have to. I'm sure many people feel that way. I think I might just manifest it on more of an everday, all-encompassing scale. There's probably some sort of psychological term for it, I'm sure.

I don't know if I've explained it well. To be honest, I guess I just feel more spiritual when I accept what the universe gives me without fight. I might be given some wonderful opportunities, or I might be given the strength and guidance to make changes. And so I bend....or acquiesce....to the person and situation in front of me. It makes me feel good to be the one to do the bending.

Anyway....I have been told more than once by women in my life that they feel I am too....um...submissive. Ironic, because my Master would tell you that I am a feisty, competitive, argumentative woman. But when it really matters, I am learning that what works for me is doing what works best for others.



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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/3/2010 8:58:43 PM   
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Yes, I see things differently than all vanilla women ever. I know this because I'm psychic and can see into everyone else's heads simultaneously.

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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/4/2010 6:30:14 AM   
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Yes, I see things differently than all vanilla women ever. I know this because I'm psychic and can see into everyone else's heads simultaneously.


You know, this was my pique with answering the question, not being able to gaze into the gray matter of all 'nillas that ever lived... thanks for letting me know that my thinking is indeed different than other 'nilla women. I will even assume that submissive women have superior minds capable of complex computations concerning the relative satisfaction of all dominant men so that we may serve them better


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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/4/2010 3:13:01 PM   
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...see things differently than nilla women?



Teh 'nilla girls don't have a blindfold obstructing their view.




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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/4/2010 6:20:58 PM   
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as a submissive woman do you think you think about and see things differently than nilla women?
Classifying myself as a submissive woman verses a 'nilla' woman just doesnt work for me. i am who i am which incompasses many things. My vanilla marriage consisted of many aspects that made me, and they did not switch off when i entered D/s relationships.

and does you thinking change when you're in a relationship
Change...not at all, but grow and become yes. Each person who i have ever been with be it vanilla or D/s M/s got all that i am and all that i will become not because i have pigeon hole myself into being in this or that. i am just what i am .

and does it change even more when you're in your masters presence?
i don't adjust masks for what or who i am or what or whom i wish someone to see me as. i am pretty open to what my expression of life is.
 My own expression of who i am,is not identified or boxed in because i am someone's slave, submissive, slut, wife, girlfriend, woman..etc nor can it be expressed through the different types of lifestyles i have been involved in  i am me with or without a husband, dom or master in my life. In all types of relationship lifestyles, i do continue to grow and expand, as i do outside of relationship lifestyles.
 
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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/4/2010 6:48:35 PM   
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as a submissive woman do you think you think about and see things differently than nilla women?


I rather suspect that i do, with regard to this woman's place in this household.  Those views don't generalize to what is best for other females in other households though, it's just what's right for me.

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and does you thinking change when you're in a relationship


I'm a malleable sort and highly influenced by Master.  My views and thoughts about some things have changed significantly to reflect his views and values. About most other things we were already sympatico, but there are things i have a better understanding of or appreciation for.  About still (few) others, my own thoughts have not changed,  nor has he extended any such expectation.

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and does it change even more when you're in your masters presence?


Not sure i understand.  I don't become a different person from place to place or person to person, although some aspects of my personality are more appreciated, say at work, than at home, but then, that's also me being good at following orders and meeting expectations.  My thinking about, for example, who i am in this world does not go away when he's not directly in front of me.  That'd be silly and strange.

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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/5/2010 5:59:02 AM   
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as a submissive woman do you think you think about and see things differently than nilla women?

and does you thinking change when you're in a relationship

and does it change even more when you're in your masters presence?


my way of thinking has absolutely nothing to do with other peoples sex, their sexuality defined as vanilla and/or otherwise or if i defer to them, so no, it doesn't change even though i do think differently than vanilla and submissive women ; i have been accused of thinking more like a man than a woman!

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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/5/2010 7:50:21 AM   
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as a submissive woman do you think you think about and see things differently than nilla women?


I think most women appreciate the fact that most men are nice and clean and deferential, instead of being savage and demanding. But honestly, I wish men would be more "manly" in general. I see a general trend toward cultural castration and it makes me sad. But thats just me. I'm sure I'm the crazy one.

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and does you thinking change when you're in a relationship


No

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and does it change even more when you're in your masters presence?


I think meeting my Master and becoming his solidified things for me. But, his presence? Like does my world veiw change when he comes home from work? No. I have to serve him when hes gone too. For one thing, the only time I have to clean is when hes at work. When he is home I have other duties to attend to.

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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/5/2010 8:15:28 AM   
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I'm posting again as opposed to editing because I want to clarify something:

I think my "both genders" comment might come across as very narrow minded in a forum like this where there are people with very diverse sexual identities. I feel that gender queer or ts or tg individuals can be much more in touch with their sexual identities then the average hetero person. I think what ever you are own it. If you are a straight man be a straight man. That's all I'm saying. Maybe my world view is limited. I don't know. Its the only one I have.


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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/7/2010 7:28:09 AM   
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as a submissive woman do you think you think about and see things differently than nilla women?
only in the sense that they would be clueless as to the dynamics of d/s relationships, otherwise no.

and does you thinking change when you're in a relationship
no

and does it change even more when you're in your masters presence?
my "thinking" doesn't change. It's really not about a thinking process for me, maybe more so on the Master's part. Once that bond is established it's more of being in tune with what he's thinking. I really believe that my "skill" in it involves my ability to be a reflection of what he wants, and it is something that is there or it isn't. Occasionally I may be puzzled and have to give more thought to it, but for the most part it is something that just happpens naturally. I suppose if I were not good at this I would be informed somehow and would necessarily have to "think" about what had been going on and why I was off base. Haven't had that happen. (yet!)

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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/7/2010 11:47:23 AM   
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as a submissive woman do you think you think about and see things differently than nilla women?


I assume you mean about the differences between the roles of partners - in my case men's roles and women's roles - to which my reply is "probably, in some ways." But there are individual differences everywhere, and so my worldview and a vanilla woman's worldview might be one and the same.

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ORIGINAL: osf
and does you thinking change when you're in a relationship


No, I don't think so, but it does guide my preferences when looking for (or accepting) a partner.

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ORIGINAL: osf
and does it change even more when you're in your masters presence?


No, but I do love looking at him and interacting with him which may make me quicker to obey or to try to please or whatever it is. I know that I smile a lot when he's around.

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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/7/2010 11:48:40 AM   
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Good to see you here bat. Where are my clean towels?....:)


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RE: as a submissive woman do you think - 2/7/2010 3:34:00 PM   
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oops... nevermind :-D

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