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winterlight -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/3/2010 7:21:45 PM)

I don't know if it was mentioned but you can put oil in pretty glass bottles and put herbs inside it. After so many days you have a very flavorful oil.

I love cheese but at this point with cholesterol at 229 i have to give up cheese, butter and anything else that is unhealthy. The hardest thing to give up for me?

CHOCOLATE :([>:]



DomKen -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/3/2010 8:34:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subfever

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if you are doing it for general health reasons, I would be wary of useing any product that has to be significantly altered to turn it into a something like soy butter ....


Yes, general health is my primary motive.

I haven't had time to look into soy butter yet, and did not know that it's significantly altered. It sounds like frankenfood... :-(

Not sure about soy buter, I just use butter, but a lot of soy products are heavily altered and are very good for you. Tofu for instance heavily manipulated and very very good for you.



Delphinus -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/3/2010 9:00:39 PM)

ooh - I've had two vegan posts in one night.

I am vegetarian full time and on again/off again vegan. Also mostly organic and home made everything because I don't trust the major companies to cook my food.

So....the point is...if you ever want to c-mail me with foodtalk, I'm all over it! :)



mnottertail -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 7:48:27 AM)


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and benecol is a fiar butter substitute with fiber


I gotta admit, when I saw "benecol" I felt pretty sure you were putting me on, as this surely sounded like a drug of some kind to me. But sure enough, it's real, and they have a variety of food products.

Have you used Benecol spread yourself?



yup, it isnt bad, but use it like melt or spread, dont cook with it. It is made from woodpulp and I believe originated out of some danish studies to increase fiber, and believe that it is a danish product.

And, why wouldn't you believe me, I am a hell of a guy (all innocent and angelic like.......)



Jeffff -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 8:20:26 AM)

If you eat, you die. If you don't eat, you die.  Might as well eat.

I like butter...:) 


Jeff



subfever -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 3:33:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: winterlight

I don't know if it was mentioned but you can put oil in pretty glass bottles and put herbs inside it. After so many days you have a very flavorful oil.



Come to think of it, I've seen herb and oil arrangements in higher-end kitchens that looked so nice, that I'd hate to even use them up if they belonged to me. To be honest, until this thread, I just assumed that these attractive bottles of oil and herbs were there primarily for decoration... ;-)

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I love cheese but at this point with cholesterol at 229 i have to give up cheese, butter and anything else that is unhealthy.


Two years ago, my cholesterol nudged over 200 for the first time. The doc wanted to put me on statins. I refused, and told him I'll lower it on my own. A year later, it had dropped more than 40 points simply due to dietary modifications.

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The hardest thing to give up for me? CHOCOLATE :([>:]


Chocolate is hard to detach from. I "gave it up" when I quit caffeine. I remember cheating once. I happened to be at TJ's with a friend of mine who talked me into splitting a 3oz organic dark chocolate bar. So I bought it.

Well... that was a mistake! I got so wired, that it kept me up half the night. Eating it at 8:30pm probably didn't help. But the chocolate was gooooood!




subfever -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 3:36:31 PM)

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Not sure about soy buter, I just use butter, but a lot of soy products are heavily altered and are very good for you. Tofu for instance heavily manipulated and very very good for you.


One of these days I'm gonna research just what they do to make tofu.



subfever -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 3:52:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Delphinus

ooh - I've had two vegan posts in one night.

I am vegetarian full time and on again/off again vegan. Also mostly organic and home made everything because I don't trust the major companies to cook my food.

So....the point is...if you ever want to c-mail me with foodtalk, I'm all over it! :)


Well, I'm not even vegetarian yet, but I see it coming, and it's no longer on the distant horizon. When I make the commitment, I'm gonna need all the help I can get!

And to think that I've BBQ'd thousands of meals over the years for myself, family, and friends on my charcoal grill. I ate 3 meat meals a day for decades.

I'm not trusting of corporations either, especially when it comes to food, drugs, and health care.



subfever -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 3:57:35 PM)

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You're welcome :)

Yes I've tasted it many times, it is buttery and I quite like it which is why I recommended it.

I often use EB when I bake treats for vegan friends


They have Vegans up in the Great White North??? ... [;)]



subfever -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 4:02:11 PM)

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yup, it isnt bad, but use it like melt or spread, dont cook with it. It is made from woodpulp and I believe originated out of some danish studies to increase fiber, and believe that it is a danish product.

And, why wouldn't you believe me, I am a hell of a guy (all innocent and angelic like.......)


LOL... I gotta admit, this is the best behavior I've seen of you in a while. Are you going straight on us, or did you just get lucky or something? ... [;)]



littlewonder -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 4:08:09 PM)

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Not sure about soy buter, I just use butter, but a lot of soy products are heavily altered and are very good for you. Tofu for instance heavily manipulated and very very good for you.


One of these days I'm gonna research just what they do to make tofu.


http://www.kameyamado.com/english/how_to_make_tofu.html



subfever -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 4:16:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: calamitysandra

Sesame oil, walnut oil, hazelnut oil, almond oil, poppyseed oil, grape seed oil, and pumpkin seed oil are pretty flavourful options.


Oops... it seems I somehow missed you 1st time around.

How would you match the oils above with the following foods?:

Fish
Frozen veggies (stir-fried)
Baked potato (white)
Baked sweet potato
Oatmeal




subfever -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 4:28:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subfever

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Not sure about soy buter, I just use butter, but a lot of soy products are heavily altered and are very good for you. Tofu for instance heavily manipulated and very very good for you.


One of these days I'm gonna research just what they do to make tofu.


http://www.kameyamado.com/english/how_to_make_tofu.html


It looks like a bit of work, but certainly nothing chemically altered. The end product looks a lot like cheese.

I've heard of it many times but have never eaten tofu before. I've heard some people say it sucks, and others say it's okay. So far, I've never heard anyone really rave about it.

Thanks for the link!




littlewonder -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 4:39:52 PM)

I love tofu when it's made in certain ways such as hot and sour soup, using it as a yogurt substitute in smoothies, mixed with miso in different dishes.

There's a ton of things you can do with it and there are a variety of different types of tofu..silken, soft, medium, firm.

You just have to practice with it and even then..some people just don't like it.



subfever -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 5:09:50 PM)


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I love tofu when it's made in certain ways such as hot and sour soup, using it as a yogurt substitute in smoothies, mixed with miso in different dishes.

There's a ton of things you can do with it and there are a variety of different types of tofu..silken, soft, medium, firm.

You just have to practice with it and even then..some people just don't like it.



Well, it's time for me to expand my food horizons a bit, seeing that further diet modifications are forthcoming.

Would you have a recommendation for a 1st time tofu eater, in the firm variety, perhaps as a stand-alone cheese replacement?



littlewonder -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 5:12:43 PM)

well tofu tastes nothing like cheese lol..it's rather bland and gross tasting when eaten as a stand alone.

Instead for someone just starting out try it in a soup such as miso soup or hot and sour soup. Get used to the texture first. If you can get past that then you've got it made.

Tofu pretty much takes on the flavor of the food its mixed with.



subfever -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 6:04:40 PM)


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well tofu tastes nothing like cheese lol..it's rather bland and gross tasting when eaten as a stand alone.

Instead for someone just starting out try it in a soup such as miso soup or hot and sour soup. Get used to the texture first. If you can get past that then you've got it made.

Tofu pretty much takes on the flavor of the food its mixed with.



Ahh... I clearly fell into the trap of judging the book by its cover... ;-)

Thanks for the tip!



lusciouslips19 -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 6:10:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subfever


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

well tofu tastes nothing like cheese lol..it's rather bland and gross tasting when eaten as a stand alone.

Instead for someone just starting out try it in a soup such as miso soup or hot and sour soup. Get used to the texture first. If you can get past that then you've got it made.

Tofu pretty much takes on the flavor of the food its mixed with.



Ahh... I clearly fell into the trap of judging the book by its cover... ;-)

Thanks for the tip!

A lot of great desserts can be made with silken tofu. Including chocolate creme pie, smoothies and cheesecake.



DomKen -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 7:21:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subfever

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Not sure about soy buter, I just use butter, but a lot of soy products are heavily altered and are very good for you. Tofu for instance heavily manipulated and very very good for you.


One of these days I'm gonna research just what they do to make tofu.

Soak the beans for a day or so. grind the beans, boil the beans, strain out the solids. You now have soy milk. Then you coagulate the proteins using calcium sulfate which results in silken tofu. Press out some of the liquid and you get firm tofu. I've been told you can do it at home but most commercial tofu is produced with minimal additives so I just buy what I need.



subfever -> RE: Butter Substitutes? (2/4/2010 8:42:12 PM)

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A lot of great desserts can be made with silken tofu. Including chocolate creme pie, smoothies and cheesecake.


You guys are making me hungry again! ... [8D]



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